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Created on: 10/03/12 10:11 AM

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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 11:21 AM

Grn, I'm very interested in your analysis, this kind of information might help save one of us someday. Keith Code in Twist of the Wrist I and II focuses heavily on identifying sources of target fixation that trigger survival reactions or SRs as he calls them. There's something like ten total. The reason I bring this up, I was doing my favorite ride awhile back, a long flowing stretch of 70 mph sweepers, when I went into an uncharacteristic panic state on a left hand turn I've done a hundred times. I got a perception of excess speed right before I turned in, I think that is number one on Code's list. Instead of driving it down into a deep lean, I panicked, chopped throttle, grabbed a handful of brake and even put my left foot out in front dirt bike style. Classic survival mode stuff that can get you into a serious accident or worse. Luckily I made the turn but it had me shaking. The rest of the ride I was tight, not a fun way to ride. Later on the return trip, I rolled into a hard right hander again about 70 mph and my peripheral picked up a target, a farm truck on a side road at the apex. I started to go into target fixation mode again and almost blew my line. Turns out the truck was actually parked in somebodies front yard right at the corner and was no threat at all.

I'm trying to develop strategies to deal with this and one way is to back off well ahead if you see approaching traffic in a turn.

I think you nailed it, you most likely entered that turn a bit hot which narrowed your available line options, the laws of physics at work. The truck you probably perceived as a threat and moved away towards the shoulder where the decreasing radius caught you out. You ran wide and caught the gravel or pavement drop off on the shoulder. Decreasing radius turns are scary unless you have the turn down cold. The Widomaker just west of Sanger, Texas on FM 455 has claimed seven sportbike riders lives to date as it is both decreasing radius and severely off camber, a really bad combination.

Well the important thing is you survived and will live to ride another day. Get back in the saddle as soon as you can and re-engage bro.



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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 11:49 AM

Thanks Kruzerman.I just looked at the video...there was no reason I shouldn't have made that turn....There really was plenty of room.It was driver error...totally.Me.I blew the curve.Failed to lean more....failed to dig deeper.Simple.I'm an idiot.The bike could have made it...I'm sure of that.I began to allow the frontend to drift to the right...right into the shoulder...then I panicked...yup...I can see it there.Either panicked or my mind locked for a second stopping me from taking the correct action.Point is...I could have made it IMO.Maybe I should give up riding?This isn't the first time I've had this happen.Yet without hitting the guardrail.But I've been real close before.This one got me....or should I say...I totally did everything wrong at the right time?These bikes are so darn smooth a ns strong,it's hard sometimes to accept that they're NOT 600's or something lighter than what they are...they ride so quickly for their size.I didn't slide far...only a few feet it looked like...then that was it.No flipping...nothing...a lowside...into the dirt.

Be advised guys...KTRC won't save you in this type of deal.


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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 11:58 AM

Hiya Rookster!Thanks again man for the PM...ya...I got it.You're too much....'high speed run'....!!!!!!!!:)I'm game bro....why not.Mom ought to be back here real soon now...but she's way out of knowing what's happening with herself anymore.My heart breaks seeing her in this state.She's the best.But she's still Mom.....everthing's gonna be okay....in spite of outside appearances.Luv you guys and when ya think 'she won't lean any farther"...she will...she has to.Just push harder on that inside bar...she'll lean.

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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 12:09 PM



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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 12:14 PM

IF...I DO get a another 14R....this is my promise.NO MODDING...no go fast goodies.Stock piping.Flies in.And I will drive like I desire to stay alive...I've really been a careless driver...it caught up to me for sure this time around.Cocky.Proud.All that shit.Bike spanked me fer sure.I'm no badass....dumbass...yes....badass....nope.Lucky to have made it this far.This whole deal could have easily been avoided had I acted more mature with my bike and my life.

Full coverage on her...so IDK if they'll total her or not yet.I should find out within a week or so.My dealer tells me..."Ya...c'mon man...yer too tuff to not get back in the saddle...hurry up so we can order ya a new 2013 ABS"!!!!FU*^!(White might be nice )


(I'm not well;)...)


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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 12:48 PM

That's the spirit Grn, get that '13 w/ ABS on order. I can't wait to hear about your shopping trip down to the local Kawaski dealer!

This is a bump in the road, a pretty big one but it sounds like you've learned something from it. You'll come back a safer, more cautious rider for sure.

I was just looking at available color options and this popped up:

That is awesome!

Well you can go Black, White or a Dark Metallic Blue looks like, take your pick. I didn't see the Green option for 2013. You could pick up another Green in a left over 2012 but it's time for a change, new direction, something different and fresh.

You sound like me on the mods after I went down, the ZX-10R had a $2000 titanium Akra Evolution sound system and I had to write it off. I said never again, slipons for me and sensible mods but you gotta do what turns you on.

I think you're going to make a major comeback Grn, keep us posted on the recovery and shopping trip.


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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 3:25 PM

That's a badazz green there...but honestly...I don't need another one that's gonna get my ego flowing again.Simple...straightforward....minimal...yet appealing.The Blue 2012's really do look good.HOWEVER...abs this time around...and no stupid speed wars with myself.This aint the GP out here...even though I 'thought' I was as 'good' as the pros...(well....kinda)....but.....all that's done if I do get a new one.EASY to lose it fast with these badboys...hell....some gotta find out the hard way(me)...I've never been an easy learner.Screw the BS...no more "watch this' shit....to myself or anyone else.I beleive I was within a heartbeat of dying right there...I would have internally bleed to death had someone not found me.It was a good 1/2hour before anyone DID show up.Scarey I gotta tell ya.....seein that silent video with the rock and trees there...and the breeze blowin.I barely made it....God's truth there my man.


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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 5:38 PM

Holy Shit Grn....Sorry to Hear this news...Glad U Survived my friend!

Get Well Soon!

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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 5:50 PM

T/Y.This is one I DIDN'T walk away from...tell ya that.God Bless and be careful.

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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 6:43 PM

Glad yall are ok. I had a nasty one in '03. You need to get back on a bike when you are able. Had no idea how full my closet was until I did. No fault of mine, just in right place at right time. I would go crazy if I couldn't ride. Well, actually I am. Had surgery in March, and still not able to ride.

I keep hearing a voice in my head, a good one, of my Step father telling me.... "When you think you know it all, you will crash." Very sound advice. Very rare to ride over my head, or use all of my "margin". I cannot say I have never done so, but make it a conscious point to remind myself of those words. Our pastime is definitely one that can hurt us. We need to do all we can to stack the odds in out favor.

Sounds like yall learned from this. At too high a price. Everyone stay safe out there, and stack the odds in your favor. Your health really does depend on it.

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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 8:14 PM

I am honestly glad to read that you're on the mend, and going to be well again. You get another chance, not everyone does.

I'm also very glad to read of you manning-up. This is likely the best thing to happen to you out of this "incident". You're starting to sound so... Manly. Adult like, Not a Boy anymore. In my opinion, you're gonna be a much more interesting fellow now.

You're also depressed. I can read it in between those lines. We're trained from very young to "suck it up", and not let others know when we're feeling bad. Please take care of your mental self, too. Your friends (your real ones) will come together with you, so let them be there for you. Talk to them, and dont fear that they will take advantage of your weakness. Real friends dont do that...



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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 8:41 PM

Grn, glad to see you posting up, you're definitely on the mend now. Life will be good again, you'll see. A lot of good advice coming from the guys on here, listen and learn, I do. You've taken the first big step to becoming a better rider, owned up to your own mortality. I'd be lying if I told you I didn't get scared before a ride, that's good, I don't ever want to get cocky again. Staying humble and keeping that ego in check is very important in this game. This is deadly serious business, the stakes are high but the rewards make it worthwhile but I don't need to tell you that. Anyway, get back to that dealer and start looking for that new machine as soon as you can. We are all behind you, give us daily reports as you recover and start to make progress, this is important for your mental state, to know you're not alone and people care.

God bless!


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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 8:53 PM

The Blue 2012's really do look good...

Agreed, I think a Blue 2013 w/ABS is in your future!



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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 8:54 PM

Thanks Kruz....means a lot to me to hear yer behind me in all this...and the good advice.I'm a nobody....I know that....but I forget sometimes...most of the time really.It had to happen this way.I wouldn't listen to anyone.Thought I had this deal down."good rider'...'fast curves'...all that shit I told myself.Bout got me killed.Seriously.I want to do things different IF there is a next rodeo....be 59 this month.I'd like to be here for my Mom's 90th ya know?

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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 9:05 PM

I'm going to hold you to the "no modding" philosophy.

You and I both know the 14, R or no, can get you into trouble quick, fast, and in a hurry. Don't worry. Ninjee's vision ain't blurry.

I will tell Brock you said "thanx, but no thanx".



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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 9:08 PM

You'll be there, you definitely had your guardian angel riding shotgun with you that day. God's got big plans for you and maybe this is what it took to get your attention. Expect to be blessed in some way soon and remember we walk(and ride)by faith and not by sight.

Ok, I'm going to bed now.



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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 9:10 PM

Ya...like I REALLY need a 190 hp bike to get three or four more ponies out of!Sheesh....All that...gone....just that fast.How's your 14R doin?And other things?Good I'm hoping.

K Kruz...see ya man....stay safe.


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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 10:52 PM

Hell,s Bells Grn14 just read this post mate sorry to read you went down it,s not fun for sure but good yer still sucking wind lol,im still paying for my stack I can bend my right leg only 85 degrees so far since March 2010, but lifes great for me now with everything ok! I guess the same for you too it takes time to heal.


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RE: PING Grn14
10/05/12 11:24 PM

Im glad you had insurance Green and im sorry you had to be the one to remind us how it only takes one mistake to change your life forever!! Hang in there and once your better you can another bike and just enjoy the ride!



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RE: PING Grn14
10/06/12 6:42 AM

Ya Bean Mate, you went through something similar to Grn. Good to hear you're mended and life is good!



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RE: PING Grn14
10/06/12 9:06 AM

2nd!I'd have ta say...ole Beanos was WAY worse than mine.....I can't imagine a complete leg and all break.Geez.THAT was some bad shit there.


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RE: PING Grn14
10/06/12 6:08 PM

Grn what's the prognosis, when do the doctors say you'll be up on two wheels again?



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RE: PING Grn14
10/06/12 6:37 PM

I'm still pissing blood....IDK how long.My ankle is healing...slowly...I'm not 20 anymore.Gonna be a while...months probably before I'm pretty much healed.Need to be pretty able right now to have my mom come home..but she's gonna need full time care here...which I'm working on getting for her this next week.I'm pretty weak right now.I can walk and stuff...but my stamina is WAY down.They had me on Opiates for almost two weeks there(oxycontin,stuff like that)


That shit's worse than bein injured IMO.I'm still cleaning my system out from that...God I hate that.I'm trusting everything's gonna be okay...even though it's a bit rough right now.Main concern Is my Mom...and getting her back here.She's really slipped over the last several months.Especially after she fell and broke her other hip.They fixed it...but she's not out and here yet...she will be.Her dementia has taken a real turn for the worse.She doesn't even know I'm her son anymore really.As for a wreck?She has no clue.I just need to have her here...for her own life.I said I wouldn't let her be 'shipped out' to some home somewhere...I meant it.So pretty much that's where everything's at...waiting till Monday to go over and make up a release plan for her to come back.I feel terrible.Not about the bike...but the other stuff.It wasn't supposed to be this way when she got older,ya know?Just a heartbreak.Anyway...thanks Kruz and all you guys that've been supportive with me through these times.It means a lot...honestly.

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RE: PING Grn14
10/06/12 7:18 PM

That's terrible, glad to hear you are ok.

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RE: PING Grn14
10/06/12 9:33 PM

Oh man,sorry to hear about your mom.That really sucks to be under that much pressure.When my mom got sick I couldn't get her out of the hospital before she died.I was so bummed cause I made her a promise I would get her back to her apartment.A promise I couldn't keep.Then my marriage fell apart.Well good luck with everything.
Craig



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