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Thread: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...

Created on: 03/11/11 09:46 PM

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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/12/11 12:26 PM

Supposed to be 'more nimble' than the boat...er...I mean,the bad 14.
Blue07, take this from a guy who has everything in his garage from a ZX-6R to a ZX-14, the difference in handling between a 14 and a Busa is going to be almost nil. If the Busa has any advantage in the corners it's going to be very subtle and more down to rider preference. I say this because all of my bikes handle exceedingly well in the turns, yes the 6R has the quickest turn-in and transitions but it's not like I get off it and climb on my 14 and go "holy smoke this thing is a barge, I hate it!" I think we have been conditioned to believe we must trade in every two years or we're riding outdated junk, it just isn't true. Just ask 1Bad, 5 and 6 year old Gixxers are still mopping up on newer machines at the drag strip.



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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/13/11 8:36 AM

The factories changed the bikes every 2 yrs because we demanded it, and we bought them this way. Today, things are different. I plan on keeping my 14, and adding to the stable, I'd like to get the Z1000 next, looks like a cheaper scoot doing the same things the Streetfighter Ducati does. I'm proud to say I still have my 06 14, only mods is: handlebar risers, peg lowering kit, zx10 footpegs, PCIII, frame sliders, larger rear sprocket, smaller front, heavier spring and fork springs. I love the low-end grunt this thing has, I put the flies back in, remapped it, stock exhaust, this thing still pulls hard, and pulls harder as I shift! I wonder if this new bike will see fruition? When I had my ZX-11, and the 12 came out, I was like gee, why go bigger? When the 14 came out, the engine was physically smaller than my 11 engine, but made way more power...if this new 15 engine is smaller, I wonder if reliability issues will be an issue?



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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/13/11 9:07 AM

blue07 wrote:

You can bet the Kawasaki Design team are all ears with THIS new stuff getting out there on the web.

Especially since they don't know anything about it. LOL.



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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/13/11 9:23 PM

Check this out. It is on a Busa forum but most of them show love for the 14. On page 2 there are some more pictures that show a new LCD display and what looks like a Busa like 3 way switch for power??
http://www.hayabusa.org/forum/general-bike-related-topics/154905-first-pic-new-zx-14-2012-a.html

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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/13/11 9:24 PM

http://www.hayabusa.org/forum/general-bike-related-topics/154905-first-pic-new-zx-14-2012-a.html



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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/13/11 10:43 PM

On page 2 there are some more pictures that show a new LCD display and what looks like a Busa like 3 way switch for power??

That power mode switch is useless. One of the (mostly unnecessary) frills the busa has that the 14 lacks. I have never taken my busa out of A mode except to feel what the difference is. Why would anyone want to reduce the power of the bike? That is what a throttle is for. You turn it less; it has less power.

I will get a stroker kit and heavy duty rods and make more power than a modded Gen3 ZX-14. ...Or if I want to save money on gas, I'll just get a 50 shot NOS and some engine building. how often do you really need 190+ hp on the street. I almost never can use what I have. It's just for those brief moments high speed ecstasy.


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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/15/11 12:59 PM



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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/15/11 1:19 PM

PS...1429cc motor. :)


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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/16/11 9:01 AM

SHIT!... I'm really liking what I'm seeing so far... KHI.



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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/17/11 8:00 AM

Kawasaki's supercharged ZZR1400 plans

By Ben Purvis -

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10 August 2011 14:11


Kawasaki is working on a supercharged four-cylinder bike as a replacement for the mighty ZZR1400.

A flurry of new patent documents from the company show enough detail to suggest the idea of supercharging a new high-performance machine is far more than just an engineering exercise.

Recent power increases in 1000cc superbikes, exemplified by the 190bhp BMW S1000RR, have created a problem for super-fast sports tourers like the ZZR1400 and Suzuki Hayabusa. Once the final word in flat-out acceleration and top speed, they are now outperformed by lighter, nimbler superbikes in a straight line as well as around corners.

The solution? Take advantage of the fact the ZZR has no race regs to conform to and add a huge dollop of power with the addition of a supercharger.

Over the last few weeks no fewer than four patents have been published, all showing different aspects of the same ZZR1400-style supercharged bike. But don't rush out to place your order just yet - Kawasaki is believed to be working on a revised ZZR, so a supercharged machine is likely to be at least 18 months away.

The design neatly slots the supercharger itself just behind the cylinders, underneath the throttle bodies, with drive to the turbine supplied via an idler gear (to increase its speed relative to engine revs) and a short chain. Air coming in through the normal intake between the headlights runs through a filter, over the engine and down to the supercharger, where it's compressed before being fed back up to the throttle bodies. There's no provision for an intercoooler, suggesting the set-up is aimed at providing a relatively modest power and torque increases, rather than drag-strip boost figures.

When it comes to supercharging, Kawasaki isn't breaking new ground; the firm already has years of experience with a remarkably similar supercharged four-cylinder engine. Not on a motorcycle, but in one of its jet skis. The Ultra 300X uses a motorcycle-style DOHC, 16-valve, four-cylinder engine, fairly close to the ZZR1400's in dimensions although with a slightly larger 1500cc capacity. In a bike doing without the Ultra 300X's intercooler around 250bhp should still be within easy reach.

Suggestions of a supercharged ZZR first emerged in 2009, however, this is the first time we've seen hard evidence to substantiate the rumours. The bike's relatively low development costs - adding forced induction to boost performance is a far cheaper way to boost performance than developing an entirely new motor - make supercharging the ZZR a promising prospect for a strong power-to-money ratio.

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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/17/11 8:30 AM

Supercharger would add at least $2,500 to the cost of the bike, probably more.

ABS they can do for free, its been on European models for years.

1429cc not hard to do, minor retooling. But they will not be able to get significantly more horsepower through the import nazis so not sure what the point is. Maybe torque.

The increased displacement will add at least $500 to the base price, just to pay for the machining changes.

So IF a revised ZX14 is in the works for 2012, and IF it does the above, it will cost around $17,000 with import penalties (horsepower and displacement).

I would not spend that for a ZX14/15, I'd buy a C14/15 before I'd spend that much on a bone stock sport bike. Supercharger or not.



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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/17/11 9:31 AM

I'd rather have TC than ABS (IF the TC could be turned off)... but other than that, I'm loving the rumors. Will be interesting to see which ones, if any, come to fruition.

I really like the new nose on the "rumor" bike... but that alone won't be enough to get me to "upgrade"... Bigger displacement? Maybe... SC? Yep, all in.



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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/21/11 12:23 PM

Dishit(s)h(e)rottle app.



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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/21/11 5:28 PM

LOL! We know it makes a hell of a wind out of the exhaust. I'm intrigued with the KTM bikes. I just can't put my faith in a machine that lacks a significant following. The owner of my dealership races his KTM and does well. IDK if that would be his bike of choice or is it all just PR.?



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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/21/11 9:37 PM

You know Rook...I don't know why you don't get your Busa to the track.See how that bird would do?Supposed to be 'more nimble' than the boat...er...I mean,the bad 14.
I'd be afraid of wiping out with that bike. I don't know how nimble it is with the stock exhaust still on there. + I do not know if I trust the rectifier which is under recall. ....but nexttrack day is on the 24th. ...maybe I should give it a try......no way--stock tires--I'd crash. I really got to get my act together and get one of these bikes road/track worthy. Where the F are my priorities in life?



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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/23/11 6:59 PM

new rumors say 2x2 and it ran 8.69 @ 161mph stock and strapped ...



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RE: A new ZX14 (ZZR) might be coming...
08/26/11 9:30 PM

you guys do realize that the pics of that bike was floating around last year

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