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Created on: 10/11/14 07:14 PM

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Wolfman



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Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/11/14 7:14 PM

Hate to point out the obvious, but WTF is this topic doing in a 14 forum. I get it, new Kaw is exciting and all is good, but why are we giving it it's own thread. With seven topic posts and limited discussion? Everyone here knows that a properly tuned 14 with some performance goodies is still going to bury the HP2 and with a price tag (fastest accelerating $$$) we know that few will be interested. I am a Kaw man down to the core, but until the HP 2 is avail in my ergos and avail in the 15000 price range, I am just not interested.
30 000 and up for an HP, I'd rather buy a used secondary bike that runs just as fast. My 0.02 cents. Wolf will not be sucking or kissing HP ass anytime soon.


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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/11/14 8:49 PM

Wolfy, We had a long run of 14's. Same as the 12, the 11, the 900. Only way to make the N/A quicker is blow it and you know it.

Think of this place as Ninja Forum. Top model and soon to be old model all in one forum. If BG wants to introduce more models as the years move on [it goes so fast], did that kick you in the butt or didn't you see it coming?

There will be new owners coming to find info/rides/race/etc., just like now. So let the mods begin. I'm buying the (shop manual) novel for my bathroom reading time. I'm enjoying the ride staying up with the tech.

That's why you won't find too many sites on their own like this one was. There is room to grow. Yes, you could see the battle of the busa/12 wars. But who wants that drama.



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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/11/14 9:22 PM

Too late now

GRN and I are both "feelin this bird"!

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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/11/14 9:22 PM

Yes, you could see the battle of the busa/12 wars. But who wants that drama.

That angle escaped me completely. This might be end of the busa/14 war. Instead of competing, top it and then make something totally different that tops them both. That forces Suz to do the same. Either that or make a factory supped busa.

No matter. WHatever bikes come out with whatever factory equipment, there will have to be a way to make them faster than they were stock or else the old turboed bikes will have a leg up for many years.



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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/11/14 11:09 PM

I don't mind a separate sub forum for the top tier Kawasaki bikes. Keeps me in the loop, and I don't have to deal with some of the idiots like on the ninjah2.org board.

Do I think we should add stuff for other lesser "ninja's" IE 1000, 650r, 300, etc? HELL NO! But this bike is special. And hopefully what is learned from this exercise will lead to a new hyperbike w factory forced induction. IE the bike that we thought the 2012 zx14r was going to be. And if it does, having info at the ready, we will be ahead of the game when they do build it. I hope!

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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/12/14 5:48 AM

""""This might be the end of the 14 and Busa War!""""
ABSOLULTELY NOT - Busa has a 1500 cc answer they've been waiting to release. Ergos are supposedly sorted out this time. I am not a Suzuki fan, but many will reach for the podium.
Exciting times for sure. R1, HP2, a V4 GSXR 1000, and soon to be released Busa!

I am not feeling this bird yet, so we will need to see what will transpire. That said zx64man and green, if you grab one, bravo. I would still need a shoe horn to get off one and onto the wheelchair awaited my crumpled and abused frame.

If it fits a 6'3 250lbs guy like me, than it will get my consideration.

So, let the thread flourish...







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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/12/14 7:42 AM

I like it...but I won't be getting one...1500 BUSA?I'd like to see that;).But yeah...this H2 thread of it's own...sa'll cool.We started a 14R thread...got off to a mildly rough start...until guys started getting em...now it's about all you see here...14R's that is.Worked out okay.I DO think there'll be some owners here.Can't wait to hear their opinions!I really like the bodywork on the H2R...if that greenish one is their H2 street....nah,not so much.Would have liked to have seen a fully faired H2.Headlights in the cowl...not in the intake duct.Oh well...still a cool machine.Strikes me more as an answer to the Ducati Nakeds and such.

If the day comes I learn to outride my beloved 14...then MAYBE I'll consider one...so I guess that means...

Hell...my 14(to me)is ALL I need.Coulda kept my 07...would have been happy with that baby;)But I'm glad I got my 2013...sweet machine for sure.


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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/12/14 7:52 AM

... and I don't have to deal with some of the idiots like on the ninjah2.org board.

I'll take a bold assumption that this was your average JoeA opinion of the place and if that is the case... Here they come, Wolfman.



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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/12/14 7:59 AM

On my search I use goog and type, 'zx14 forums'

1. Here is #1 popup.
2. 1441 or Smoke's place.
3. The pond pops up 3rd on the boolean run thru

And if you goog H2 forums this time next year?

1. ?
2. ??
3. ???


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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/12/14 8:50 AM

My 2 cents, I could care no less or more if H2 or any other motorcycle is discussed. It could've just as easily been an extreme oriented corner carving track bike with naturally aspirated 600, but that's just not Kawi's style, more like Honda's.

As far as I'm concerned, if you don't want to discuss the H2, don't discuss the H2! Pretty simple!

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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/12/14 9:24 AM

My 2 cents, I could care no less or more if H2 or any other motorcycle is discussed.

Well Vic, it's sort of hard to run out to your 14/H2 you begin to discuss 600's on a 14/R site. Not only that, where are the field glitches that you find later? It was a warrant of a complete parts change to solve it. You bat your head back and forth for a factory flaw? No one even owns the bike...


... if the site is only addressing two top models.



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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/12/14 12:00 PM

A while back wolf wanted a poetry section and it got shot down. Sounds like the feelings haven't completely healed up yet. I don't mind the H2 talk, but was kinda surprised as well to see it get its own section.


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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/12/14 12:49 PM

I think the reason it is allowed to have its own section on the zx14 forum is because it has the potential to be the top HP Kawasaki bike; s position that our beloved 14R holds up to this point

I also can't see myself getting one, feelin it or not. I've got all I can handle and then some. I also don't like the idea of trading and takng a substantial loss.
And anyone who bought a new 2012 or up 14R is gonna get peanuts for it if you trade in. Selling to an individual will more than likely also be about at least a 5K blow to the wallet


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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/12/14 3:09 PM

I mean...the H2 is a fast ass 'track' bike....street...couldn't use one(I couldn't).So I buy one...ride it like Rossi...and then?????Crash it or somethin.It begs to be ridden hard and fast.Anything else...the price and all...even the cool new electronics and stuff...a waste on the street...IMO.The 14R is FAST enough.Carves well.Comfortable...reliable.Smooth...all the things a guy could want for a sportbike for the street.Did I mention....BIG...roomy.Solid.Free of buzz and such.Nah...I'm stayin with my Ninja...I love this bird;)

Once ya do some personal maintenance on her...she comes apart and goes back together with MINIMAL drama...that's a BIG factor in owning a bike.To me anyway.


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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/12/14 4:40 PM

ZX14MAN64/Grn14

Great posts I agree with each of you. I bought my 14R and plan to ride it for quite a few seasons at this point, at least 5 seasons but probably longer.

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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/13/14 8:36 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ATARLa9d-U

Well, Suz came out with a turbo system but the conventional way thru the exhaust, so we need another thread title for this bike. Very advanced steering and you won't need a Muzzy or Brock, unless they can improve the flow.



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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/13/14 8:26 PM

Lol. you da man Wolf.

I like zx14's
Wolf does as well
If I spend my wifes retirement on a H2
I'll surely catch hell
My balls would be swollen and turn a weird shade of blue
My bed would be in the garage with my new H2

That's all I got for ya wolf, Cheers


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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/13/14 8:52 PM

Divorce lawyer or new H2. Hmmmmmm which is cheaper

My wife is a divorce lawyer, I don't win many arguments. I think I'll pass on the H2.



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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/13/14 10:05 PM

"I don't win many arguments. I think I'll pass on the H2"...in that case...maybe living in the garage for a short while with yer H2 till she leaves may just be the right move;)With 300 hp(or thereabouts)and 200 somethin mph...you KNOW you'll be winning at SOMETHING out there....with yer lawyer 'wins all the arguments' deal....what have you got to lose?May as well start winnin at somethinLOL!!!You KNOW you can't win in this other sitceeation;)

Life's short...and getting shorter every day.Think about it;)

J/K of course;)


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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/14/14 7:32 AM

BEAUTIFUL 12 there Wolf;)I had the Silver one myself...great bikes...thanks for the memories!

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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/14/14 7:46 PM

Nice pic,don't recognize the garage,sunday looks fair weather wise,sunny but cold.Oh yah me thinks the H2 is beautiful, if the price is right and I can do a tank of gas without too much pain....... wellll this old man be 62 needs to get a new H2



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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/15/14 4:43 AM

Pic taken at a little shop called Frankenstein Power Cycle.







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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/15/14 10:21 AM

Damn must be old timers been to a Mitch's lots of times



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RE: Outrages WTF is this topic doing here
10/16/14 12:07 PM

http://aime2014.prod1.sherpaserv.com/activ-portal/show-planner/exhibitors/?filter[text]=&filter[shortlist]=&filter[featured]=&filter[hasDeals]=&filter[category]=&filter[country]=

Two day dealer show and then the public hits it for the weekend. Over 500 displays, 50% more space needed than last year.



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