Just rcvd Helibars risers I bought new on eBay, and the instructions state: "Attention: 2012/2013 non-ABS models must utilize the front brake hydraulic line relocation kit provided for this model."

The only items in the package are 2 risers and 4 bolts. There's no mention of that requirement or statement in the eBay listing, so it's all new news to me. My ZX14R is a 2013 non-ABS, so apparently I need this kit?

I'm currently waiting for the seller to respond, but meantime was hoping somebody here knows, and hopefully they're actually NOT needed? And if so I'm free to install them tonight.

Thanks! ...

I bought mine from a guy that has an 06. They fit my 12 perfect. No abs.

Jimmy - Thanks! Just concerned the brake lines might get bound or stretched?? There must be some reason Helibars included that statement and instructions on how to install them?

(whatever 'them' is, since there's no brake line relocation kit in the package I rcvd)

Just noticed you're on the Concours forum too

Thinking about getting one of those ... you may have seen me post that.

I got mine a while ago, I didn't get the relocation "kit" either, they must have re-designed them
since i got mine, email them, I'm sure they will send you the bolts, shims, what ever it is ...

Just rcvd this response from Helibars: "We sell the kit separate for $10.00 plus shipping (we can do First Class mail for $2.00) give us a call here at the office."

Awaiting the kit now

Edit: Just rcvd the order receipt by email, which says:

Qty 1 125-M645; M6 - 1.0 x 45mm DIN 931 Class 10.9 Zinc Cap
Qty 1 150-0138; Aluminum Spacer 1/2 OD x .257 ID x 3/8 Long

I haven't delved into the install at all yet, but it seems like I coulda done this with a new bolt & some washers. And I prob would've had I been able to find pics or details anywhere. Oh well.

* Last updated by: extrapolator on 4/29/2015 @ 1:02 PM *

From their website :

Install Instructions Here !!

* Last updated by: carabuser on 4/29/2015 @ 4:04 PM *

They are trying to tell me I ordered the ABS model ! I said the 2012 didn't have ABS and the one I ordered
was the only one on their website at that time (2012) they just don't want to comp me the bolt and shim ...

they want to charge me too !! Its just a cap screw and aluminum spacer !! what ever ....

* Last updated by: carabuser on 4/29/2015 @ 4:17 PM *

From their website :

Install Instructions Here !!

Yeah, that's the PDF of the exact paper instructions that came with mine ... just with no brake relocation kit.

* Last updated by: extrapolator on 4/29/2015 @ 7:41 PM *

They are trying to tell me I ordered the ABS model ! I said the 2012 didn't have ABS and the one I ordered
was the only one on their website at that time (2012) they just don't want to comp me the bolt and shim ...

they want to charge me too !! Its just a cap screw and aluminum spacer !! what ever ...

Yeah, I'd think they'd want to clear that one up with you.

Yep, it's an M6 x 45 bolt with a thick (tall) washer (don't have my camera, so I used my scanner ):

* Last updated by: extrapolator on 5/1/2015 @ 2:12 PM *

I installed 1.25" risers last night. Installation was pretty easy. Handle bars look much higher (1.25" higher for sure) but I didn't feel the difference when I rode to work this morning. My stupidity was that I installed the aluminum cover for the suspension adjuster with a mallet. I wasn't sure what I was thinking...I guess I wasn't thinking anything Now I have to remove the handle bars to get it off, but I used Locktite on the handle bar bolts I will be riding without suspension adjustment for a while...

You felt NO difference even with a 1.25" rise???

I stacked 2 sets of 1 inch risers on my 2014 ABS model ....absolutely perfect fit for me.

Only had to bend brackets on brake/clutch resivoirs to clear windscreen.

Hi Kingy2,

How did you manage to find the long bolt to install 2X risers?

Okay...you can do this.The lower brake block junction.It has two bolts attaching it to the bracket mounted on lower fork clamp casting.Right in the center there.Remove those bolts.Move the bracket and block assembly to the right side bolt hole,using the innermost bracket hole as the attachment point now.You've now shifted the block about 1 and 1/2" over to the right.Locktite the bolt,tighten down.1 and 1/2" inches of slack right there.About that anyway.If it's still 'tight' on the line...move the brake perch assembly inward.That'll give ya even more slack.It won't take much,if any.Check the brake line full right and full left.It'll be rubbing on the inner duct housing.This is okay...it won't harm anything.Check below on the lower brake line..be sure it's freely extending on Rebound action.It should be.

You will not need to bend any piping or anything for this to fit okay.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 7/27/2015 @ 6:04 PM *

Hi Grn14 and KINGY2,

I am bit confused. Single riser installation is straight forward. I insert it to a round thingy (suspension adjustment base) and bolted the riser with 2 bolts. How do you fix the second one on top of the first one?? Do you insert a tube or something to secure? otherwise the second riser is held with 2 bolts only...isn't it dangerous?

* Last updated by: OldMan on 7/27/2015 @ 5:52 PM *

No...you need to get longer bolts.Measure the thickness of the two helibar risers(sandwiched)...should be around 2" or so.Don't forget to add in the thickness of the bar clamp (at the bolt holes) as well.(Take one with you(install bolts) to check the pitch)and get 4 bolts about a half to three quarters longer than the measurement(total with bar clamp,and heli thickness).Once you have the risers on there,and the bar clamp,install the bolts(natch).It should be fine.It can't move anywhere with those two bolts holding it.

I used a Heli and a genmar...think the bolts I got were 4" long.You won't need that much.

It's no more 'dangerous' than the bar clamp attached as factory.You're just steering the frontend...Those bolts are plenty tough.They aint gonna snap on ya just countersteering or moving the bars to either side while stopped.

"second riser is held with 2 bolts only".Yes...like the factory setup.No worries.All THREE pieces are held by the two bolts.It works safely.The bar clamp and helis CAN'T move(rotate)with those bolts holding it..if anything,the bolts could back out...which they won't,and you'd feel the bar moving if that happened.It wouldn't just rotate forward or backward all of a sudden.Put some blue locktite on the bolt tips if yer concerned.I think the factory has some threadlocker on those.Kinda pinkish color.

Not sure,but I think those triple tree threaded bolt holes go all the way through.If ya feel better with a bit longer bolts...it shouldn't be a problem.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 7/27/2015 @ 6:37 PM *

I agree with OldMan ... when installing just my ONE set of risers, it sure seems like you're relying on those 2 bolts a LOT more ... after all the OEM has the bars sitting down over top of the round top of the fork, good for lateral strength. A 3rd bolt somehow, even though the bike is surely not made for it, would be just the ticket. Maybe it's no big deal, bit it seems like the risers put the bars out there in the wind ... like a guy's leverage pushing down on the bars really hard, or lifting really hard, could snap the bolts. I wouldn't want to double up the risers ... YIKES!

Hey, call me a worry wart

The heli risers are flat on both surfaces.They go over the triple tree,and the bar mount fits inside that cutout.Like there was only one heli on there.TWO won't change the configuration.It'll still sit on top of the first heli.Then add the factory bar clamp.The design of the helis configures to the radius of the triple tree mount area.It'll hold just fine.I KNOW...I've done it.Once tightened down...they aren't gonna go anywhere.You'd have to lock the bar full right or left...and use a breaker bar on the bar end to even 'possibly' get those bolts to move...or break(which they won't).I think you may be overthinking the 'what if's' with this.The bolts will NOT flex allowing the helis to rotate in any direction.When tightened down,it'll be like one piece.I've got a set of Helis AND Genmars on mine.With the longer bolts.It's never moved.

"it sure seems like you're relying on those 2 bolts a LOT more ..."..there's NO pressure from any direction.Steering the bike isn't putting any undue pressure on those bars.I don't know what else to say really.If you don't feel they're safe...then I guess...don't install em?20K on my 14...never a problem with the bars being secure.

Oldman says..." Single riser installation is straight forward. I insert it to a round thingy (suspension adjustment base) and bolted the riser with 2 bolts. How do you fix the second one on top of the first one?? "...you GET LONGER BOLTS..LOL....(as I said).You don't bolt the first one on there,then try to put one over it,and add bolts through the top one.

...you simply add another set,and use longer bolts.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 7/27/2015 @ 9:20 PM *

Sounds like a GuaRaNtee to me

How about when using the Canyon Dancer and tying the bike down securely by its handlebars? ... which is what I'll be doing soon on the Auto Train from Sanford FL to Lorton VA.

I will try another set of risers on top of my 1.25". I found an used set on eBay for $50+9.95 shipping and made an offer (a lower price) but the guy ignored my offer (not even a counter offer). I will keep looking for an used set.

Oldman..you go any higher..yer gonna need a set of brake lines....pretty sure.

1.25 + 5/8ths...over two inches.I think the LSL kit raised the bars 2" and had a 4" pullback.They supplied the front brake line(longer) with those.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 7/29/2015 @ 3:48 PM *

Hi Grn14,

So basically a total of 2 inch is pretty much the limit? I was looking at the brake line and things around it last night. I guess I need to find 0.75" riser

LSL bar kit is too expensive for me.

* Last updated by: OldMan on 7/29/2015 @ 4:13 PM *