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Created on: 06/22/12 07:27 PM

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hagrid


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K-skid report
06/22/12 7:27 PM

Gentlemen,

A controlled experiment to determine the efficacy of KTRC has concluded.
The findings are:

1) in KTRC1, in loose paving (gravel) full throttle application was ECU modulated to the point of virtually negating drive axle wheel spin.
2) in KTRC1, in compacted public asphalt featured in common urban environs (Pittsburgh), during moderate cornering(50mph, 35 degree lean angle approx,) full throttle application during the execution of the aforementioned corner resulted in ECU modulation of the throttle. The net result was a rate of acceleration just short of the total traction threshold of the drive tire.

I don't mind telling you, the reader, that this emperical evidence was made possible by me having a couple cocktails, and then getting stupid with the throttle, in 2nd gear, above 4000 rpm, on my way THROUGH an apex. Not just one... five of them. For those that enjoy Google Maps... its Glass Run Road.

Conclusion: KTRC modulates rider demand on the throttle to the point of precluding catastrophic traction loss.

Q.E.D

Zachary


* Last updated by: hagrid on 6/22/2012 @ 7:29 PM *



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RE: K-skid report
06/22/12 9:26 PM

Drinking and riding...



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RE: K-skid report
06/22/12 9:36 PM

Now now... this was for the sake of discovery. Granted its not on the same level as Oppenheimer or Nobel... but progress demands sacrifice.
Only via the grace of KHI engineers do I stand here tonight to deliver results.



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RE: K-skid report
06/22/12 10:09 PM

He he he!!! Glad you still are here to tell us about it!!!



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RE: K-skid report
06/22/12 10:23 PM

Big wink!

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RE: K-skid report
06/22/12 11:41 PM

Glad your K-TRC works like it’s supposed to!!! But please think if drink!!!



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RE: K-skid report
06/23/12 12:39 AM

Finally!!!

NOw how simple was that? Buzz the mode, buzz for 'last call!" You don't know how many times I ass.........



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RE: K-skid report
06/23/12 6:19 AM

I tried a similar thing (completely sober I might add!) driving off a campsite on wet grass in mode 3 and it was IMPOSSIBLE to spin the rear. When driving through Scotland recently on mud/cow shit strewn back roads in some of the wettest weather I've ever ridden in I also selected mode 3 and had no problems whatsoever but my brain was obviously in 'wet weather' mode 'cos I still found myself riding accordingly like I've done for the last 30yrs. Electronic aids might well be as good or even better than a mixture of experience, skill and human reactions but old habits die hard I guess.

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RE: K-skid report
06/23/12 6:36 AM

Glad you didn't come into my path while you were "experimenting".



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RE: K-skid report
06/23/12 7:06 AM

Presume nothing.

-did I say I was impaired?
-did I say I rode outside of my lane?
-did I say I was even breaking the speed limit?



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RE: K-skid report
06/23/12 8:13 AM

so the new 14 comes out with multiple alcohal settings......................

that is why i do 1 hitters and don't drink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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RE: K-skid report
06/23/12 9:12 AM

A very sobering report that needs no video. YOu couldn't be that tipsy remembering the details... "I spun rocks" really needs a video, however. JMO.



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RE: K-skid report
06/23/12 9:40 AM

Next time I'm at dads I'll try to put something together. Had to ship my puter back to Cali for warranty work... 2 week turnaround.
Beware IBuyPower... sketchy quality.



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RE: K-skid report
06/23/12 2:07 PM

Did you mount it down low looking at the rear tire?

That sux bud. I feel bad for you.



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RE: K-skid report
06/24/12 8:48 AM

Well... maybe a newer, better camera will roll back to you.
Never know... the universe is quite mysterious.



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RE: K-skid report
06/24/12 9:14 PM

I just "tested" ktrc 3, for the first time, on the downslope of the continental divide. Mountain cloudburst dropped the temperature from upper 80's to 55 degrees and rain torrent included sleet. Switched into ktrc 3 and the boat became a tractor. Incredible contact with the road surface with reassuring feedback. Never experienced anything like it. Accentuated by the fact that I changed from 1 to 3 in mid-stream (literally).

Now, I had used ktrc 2 before to bust snow berms in March; but the 3 setting amazed me.

Don't know why I would want to spend extra for ABS; its the only thing left to control manually with the traction modulator on full strength. Where's the sport? Heh, heh.

Now if only they would invent some form of dirty water and foaming muck repellent, so we don't have to clean and lube the chain and clean and polish the bodywork, etc after such fun.


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RE: K-skid report
06/24/12 9:17 PM

Lol... bust snow berms?! Would you like me to fab up a snow plow for the front of your Ninjee? Lol!!



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