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Created on: 09/19/17 03:57 PM

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Chain Oil suggestion
09/19/17 3:57 PM

I have a 2013 and usually lube my chain with motul spray lube. But recently i changed my sprokets and chain. The chain color is gold and the Motul spray lube is white so i don't want to use it on a chain that is gold.

Any idea of a good lube chain that is clear color?


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cruderudy


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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/19/17 5:15 PM

hmmmm the motul ive been using in the black spray can is clear. my '06 chain was gold and the clear was good there


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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/19/17 5:18 PM

That's mean it is one that is clear. Mine is white and my new chain is gold color. I need a clear one. Thanks !!!

I will try to buy one at ebay.

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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/19/17 7:12 PM

Maxima chain wax is transparent golden brown like motor oil. It doesn't show on a gold chain at all and not much on a chrome. It flings off very little because it dries to a sticky consistency. It becomes more liquid when it warms up.

Maxima Chain Guard is another lube and it's clear like water. I can't see any color change on my chrome chain. Chain Guard flings pretty much though. I do not believe it contains wax at all. Stays very liquid at all temps.


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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/19/17 8:11 PM

+1 the Maxima is good stuff too!



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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/19/17 8:28 PM

+2...Maxima Chain Wax.

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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/21/17 5:07 AM

Trying some PJ 1 Blue Label. I've been using BelRay Superclean for yeara. The previous owner of a former machine used chain wax and the countershaft sprocket cover was full of it, including rocks, sticks and other debris it attracted. So I dug up a video on using chain wax and apparently wiping it off is as important as putting it on, just like any wax.



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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/21/17 6:09 AM

I've been using the Chain Wax for years but I do always wipe off the excess after applying it.The only part of the chain that needs lubrication is the pivoting part under the o-rings and maybe some on the contact area for the sprocket. Anyplace other than that is waste but you know it goes everywhere when spraying and spinning the tire.Wiping the excess off means less fling off onto your wheel or inside the front sprocket cover. Its also best to do it when the chain is warm after a ride as this helps the lubrication to soak in to where its needed.

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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/21/17 8:09 AM

Yep...wiping it off...that definitely helps.It's also supposed to sit for at least 20 minutes before riding.It can make a big ugly mess if it's just sprayed on and you take off.If your using kerosine to clean before applying the wax,I always wipe the chain dry of kerosine before applying the wax.Otherwise,it will fling off also.


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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/21/17 9:50 AM

I clean my chain with WD-40. Spray it down, wipe, spray, wipe. Once clean, I spray the Belray chain lube (which is white) only on the rollers, not the outside. The result is a gold chain with lube where it counts.

BTW, when the can says anti-fling, it means "mostly" anti-fling...



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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/21/17 4:14 PM

I never wipe lube off, just let it sit and soak in overnight. I don't spray much on either though. Yeah, I get some fling on the rim after the first couple rides. No big deal. I clean it off. Also get a little buildup under the sprocket cover but that's no big deal to me either. I clean that out every couple years too. It won't hurt the chain or anything else. It actually ensures that the side stand gets some lube because it drips down onto the pivot. Wipe it off after it flings, not before. I NEVER use WD-40 on the chain. I've seen my O-rings start to disintegrate right after using it to clean. Not good for rubber IMO.



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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/22/17 8:56 PM

Yep...to Ahhlou...if you start seeing VERY small black 'hairs' beginning to appear in the links...just be aware.O-rings are dying.

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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/22/17 9:44 PM

Kerosene good .... WD-40 bad, unless you dont like your o-rings



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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/23/17 7:32 AM

The o-rings develop a ridge where they are compressed between the plates and because this is the most fragile part of the o-ring, it breaks off easily. That's the black hairs you see after cleaning with WD. If it's doing that after one cleaning, I assume it is also deteriorating the whole o-ring over the longterm.



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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/25/17 11:29 PM

Totally destroyed one of my chains.They weren't just burrs...they were measurable pieces sticking out.Also had the inner graphite lube smudging the rim at several places.(red dust)In fact,the red dust stuff was all over the inside of the link plates.Perhaps the wd penetrated inside the link rollers and dried up the lube that came with the factory links.IDK.


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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/26/17 7:06 AM

Interesting, I will keep an eye on the o rings.

I cleaned and lubed my 12R chain the same way for 9 seasons (40K Km) with minimal wear and no deterioration of the o rings. From what I have read, WD40 is mostly Kerosene (heavy Naptha).

Here is a video on the subject. http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/mc-garage-video-will-wd-40-destroy-your-motorcycle-chain-o-rings

Unless I see some serious evidence to the contrary, I will continue the practice but keep an eye out for tell tale signs as suggested.



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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/26/17 10:52 AM

Good video.Thanks.Doesn't appear that my o-rings went bad then from using it.Maybe a defective chain?Too tight or something?Maybe.

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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/26/17 5:07 PM

I know the busa is due for a chain change. I'm going to try WD-40 again just to prove to myself. The 14's chain might be getting changed soon too. If I get disintegration on either of those, that will be all I ever need to know on the topic. It may have to do with a combination of opperating the bike with the chain and cleaning it with WD. Brand new o-rings might not react the same to WD as worn o-rings. For now, all I know is that my OEM Gen1 chain had o-ring whiskers and Grn had the same problem both after using WD-40 to clean. There is also scads of reports of the same by other bike owners. I don't know how some others don't have this problem.



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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/27/17 11:42 AM

Rook, it may be a function of a number of variables. For example, I am very easy on the bike, "spirited touring" while you tend to test the limits of the bike much more than I do. Factors such as this may play into the variable results on this topic.

Also, I wash down the chain with WD40 several times but wipe almost all of it off. Only a small amount is actually left on the chain before chain lube is applied.



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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/28/17 1:30 PM

Hey folks--relating to the Chain Wax--what is the best method of cleaning it off the wheel? I'm afraid I was a little too messy at first. Just soap and water do the trick? I don't want to use any really harsh stuff. Any advice appreciated! thanks!
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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/28/17 2:04 PM

If it's OEM paint, you can use kerosene and follow that up with soap and water. If you want something a little milder, Black Magic Wheel cleaner or any wheel cleaner will work. I've used that stuff a hundred times with no problem except it it can make your brakes feel a bit slippery for a few days. Wheel cleaner is a very concentrated soap so if you get it on the rotors or pads, it takes a while to wear off.

Otherwise, ordinary car soap and hot water will do it but you will be rubbing your fingers to the bone.



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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/28/17 2:11 PM

Turtle Wax Bug and Tar remover would also probably work very well. It slimes up and clings to the surface leaving a thick coat that dissolves very well and it has never hurt my fairings. I use it on the underside pretty often and it does dissolve tar without damaging the paint. Just don't overdo it because it sticks so well, it's hard to rinse off completely. That never hurts either though. It dries up and you get it the next time.



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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/28/17 2:47 PM

Thanks, Rook! Greatly appreciated!
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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/28/17 8:58 PM



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RE: Chain Oil suggestion
09/28/17 9:51 PM

"Hey folks--relating to the Chain Wax--what is the best method of cleaning it off"

my favorite chain cleaner is a plastic bowl of plain diesel fuel, applied with a used toothbrush and wiped off with a rag...

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