By chance anyone have an HM Plus Quickshifter for an 07 ZX-14 they want to sell?

Yannih. The same quickshifter fits any 06 zx10 + and zx14. And susuzki bikes with top stick coils. Just to help you in your search. I took my rl lite which is an earlier model and which was plug and play between my 06 zx10 and my 2012 zx14. I do have a the new anitori qs4 pro quick shifter that I may have for sale in a few weeks if the new bike im getting and and the rebuild on my zx10 goes over budget if your interested.

Hi Blkcasper,
Thank you.
Did not know of the compatibilities.
Only the 06 ZX-10?

And yes please.
Definitely keep me in mind for the Annitori QS Pro.
(is that the new gold one or the older red one?)

* Last updated by: yannih on 10/23/2014 @ 1:27 AM *

Question...do you have to be wide open for this to work?

Yannih the same rl, hm , and new qs4 pro quickshifter works on all later zx10's from 06 plus and all zx14's . Its the new gold one. So if you can't find one listed specifically for the 07 zx10 one listed for a zx14 will also work.
plug and play. I took the one off my 06 zx10 and installed it on my 2012 zx14. You will probably hqve a hard time finding the rl or hm quickshifters as they have been discontinued. Unlees there are still some left for sale on ebay

GRN14 you do not have to be wide open. I found it worked smothly anywhere above 5k and as long as you are accelerating.

Yeah, seems to work just fine at normal riding rpm or any rpm for me. You need rearsets to use it. I'd suggest going with GP shift to ensure a solid upshift. I plan to convert my Vortexs this winter. Others have done that and they seem to love it.

Not too sure about going to GP shift pattern.
Had no intention of doing this but will try out the Quickshifter with normal shift first and see how I go.

Thanks blkcasper.
Please keep me in mind when the time comes to sell your Annitori.
They are actually not available in Australia yet as far as I can see.
They also seem to be much cheaper than the HM's.
I am definitely interested unless I find another Quickshifter in the meantime.
Is it as new and did Annitori get it right for their first attempt without HM?

BTW
I saw on another thread you bought one of Ricky's bikes.
Amazing.

Annitori was the American distributor of the HM. The Annitori tech support guy told me the Annitori QS Is the same shifter without the kill time and sensitivity selector module. I really like the module cuz I'm into gadgetry but the Annitori has 3 sensitivities to choose from and 65 ms kill time (I believe) which is what the 14 and almost all other sport bikes will like the best. You'll never notice the difference between 60 and 70 milliseconds so unless you like the nifty digital display, get the Annitori for less $$. All the range of adjustability with the HM is not going to matter even if you race competitively. IDK what Annitori has come out within the last couple years. Maybe they have expanded on their original QS.

I'd recommend the Bazzaz QS/AFM/TC for you if you want to spend big bucks. Now there is a quick shifter with amazing adjustability capabilities. You can pick different kill times for different gears! + you get TC and fuel management. That single unit costs less than you'd pay for separate fuel module and HM shifter. If I didn't already have the POwer commander setup, that would be the way I would have gone.

* Last updated by: Rook on 10/23/2014 @ 6:55 PM *

Rook, when you mentioned the Bazzaz unit had a Quickshifter AND TC functionality my eyes really lit up.
If there are two things I would love on my 07 it would be ABS and TC.
And as I have no immediate plans to upgrade to a ZX-14R (no blue available in Australia) this was great news.
So I did some research and as far as I can see you need to be an engineer to install the thing and a brain surgeon to set it up and make it work correctly.
Very very complex.
Several wires to connect / splice on install and so many amendable variables during setup.
First thing I began to think very early in the peice was "Rook would have no issue installing this (and would probably enjoy every minute doing it) plus absolutely love constantly tinkering with settings to gain improvements through trial and error on his 08".
But it's simply way to complex for me.

Tell you what Rook, don't worry about your PC setup, sell me your HM Plus and get a Bazzaz QS/AFM/TC.
It really has you written all over it and would keep you busy and entertained for a long time to come...

* Last updated by: yannih on 10/24/2014 @ 2:43 AM *

LOL ...Rook would spend another Summer trying to figure that out + Rook is flat broke$$$$!.

another note on the QS v slipper, the QS will make a definite dif in drag times but unless you are at the point of improving your lap times on the track, I don't think it's going to change that until you have the corners down pat. I can tell you, a QS WOULD give a nice advantage in a street race or drag strip. I can feel that by testing QS v using the clutch.

Here's a question for you.

If I decided to go for the Bazzaz (cause that TC included with the QS is really appealing to me), could the dyno tuned map I have be transferred from my PC3 to the Bazzaz unit?

I'm assuming they are only settings and there would be no issue with this.

Good question. It's just a fuel table but Bazzaz is not necessarily in the same increments of throttle position and rpm as DynoJet. I think the Bazzaz may be a bit more refined. MAYBE...I hate to guess about what I think I heard years back so I'd ask Romans or someone else who knows the intricacy of these things. One thing I can tell you is that Bazzaz has its own software to install maps and DJ has a different software. That might be the deal breaker right there. I'm almost certain the tuner I bought my pipes from asked me what fuel management system I had for the 14 and the busa before sending me the maps on disk. The busa is Bazzaz and the 14 is PC. You may need to tune for a Bazzaz, get a map or else find out if you can just plug in the numbers manually. Sorry IDK for sure.

One other thing I bring up on these threads about ignition cut quicksfters, you might miss a gear now and then until you get used to using the thing. The reason is that the ignition cut is so brief, you may not lift the pedal high enough before the motor comes back under load. This causes the bike to be in NO gear. It's like neutral. This can be very shocking and befuddling and it has caused me to pause a second or more not knowing what to do. The engine spins down quickly. In this state of mind, it can be very hard to know what speed to rev the engine in order to smoothly shift back down usoing the clutch. I suggest you pull the clutch and coast to the side of the road and shift the bike into gear with it stopped. No matter how embarrassing it is, it is much better than the loud bang you will hear if you downshift it at the wrong rpm. Not only that, you might be finding small chunks of steel coming out in the next several oil changes. Just pull over and shift it into gear. You can also just immediately shift it up a second time (using the clutch) and it will go in. You will probably avoid this problem by going to GP shift. The standard shift pattern makes one a little more apt to shift softly or not all the way to the stop. This is not a problem with a comparatively lengthy unload such as when you pull the clutch lever but for 65 ms, you have to get the pedal between throws before the kill time runs out.

Another thing that improved the problem of missing shifts was to DECREASE the sensitivity. That way, the ignition won't cut unless you are applying a good deal of force to the pedal. Soft, timid shifts at high rpm is what causes the missed shift.

* Last updated by: Rook on 10/24/2014 @ 9:10 PM *

A pc3 map can be loaded to a pc5 and vice-verse. Baz is going to reject the pc and vice-verse. Looks like one too many cell blocks between both units.

With the pc5 you can 'daisy chain' the shift kill, run an 02 sensor, toggle a second map, punch an acel mode. You do not want the bike back on the dyno. You are better off switching it to autotune with the map you have or run that map. Lots of options once you have that map on the computer.

If you have a tuner that is familiar with both pc and bazzaz then yes the maps can be transferred. The bazzaz tables are different than the pc. More adjustments available in the lower levels under 3k. Truthfully you'll probally have to re dyno the bike to get the map done correctly. The thing I like about the bazzaz is that the one controller does the same thing as 2-3 controller's pc. If you get the bazzaz with traction control,quick shifter, and fuel , is all in one unit. Where's the pc you need 3 modules to do samme thing,

...and the DJ quickshifter was not always liked that much several years back from what I recall.

Hi All,

I am now thoroughly confused.

Spoke to a pro racer about quickshifters yesterday.
He advised
Don't go Annitori. Way too unreliable.
Don't go HM unless you go the top of the line GP model as any Quickshifter that doesn't allow specific gear kill time adjustments is useless.
Don't go Bazzaz if you are considering it for the TC option as its too expensive and the basic TC option supplied isnt anywhere as refined as the factory versions.
Surprisingly he recomended the Dynojet Quickshifter as Dynojet are very reliable, Dynojet doesn't release a product unless it it thoroughly tested and it has individual gear kill time adjustments.

This all seems totally different from the general opinions I have heard on quickshifters.
Perhaps it is a racers point of view who expect a different level of usibility rather than what I would require.

My thoughts before I heard all this were
Annitori. A solid price effective option because the new QS Pro version has just been released in Australia and the new agents are close to where I live so service should be good if there are any issues.
HM Plus. A great option that seems to get the best overall reviews but why pay the extra for the little digital adjustment box if you don't need it plus the new Annitori seems to have all the adjustment now that the HM has.
Bazzaz. No longer an option for me now for the simple reason that I called the guys who did the custom dynotune on my PC3 and they advised the data could not be transferred to the Bazzaz unit so a new custom dynotune would be required therefore the combined cost of this plus the expensive Bazzaz unit is prohibitive.
Dynojet. This option had very few recomendations and didn't seem the one to go for according to users.

I don't know.
Any additives on this because I definitely want a quickshifter?

* Last updated by: yannih on 10/28/2014 @ 11:25 AM *

I'd find out WHY kill time/gear is so important. It may have to do with accelerated wear on the gearbox but "useless?"

It certainly is not useless. The only thing I can think of is that some gears may respond better to different kill times than others. All I can say is that I cannot feel this by riding the bike. All gears seem to shift equally smooth. I mentioned that I have missed second and third several times and a slower kill time may benefit there. I ride the bike to peak rpms in 4 and 5 so infrequently, I can't really say how likely missing a shift is there but I suspect no better or worse. I think it has more to do with pussyfooting the gear shifter. I talked to a guy with a DJ shifter a couple months ago and he said he had also missed shifts because of his timid toe.

I'm not a track pro but I'd say if you need professional performance, go with adjustable killtime / gear. I would LOVE to have auto blip for downshifts too. I think you will pay big for a system like that. I'd get several testimonials on a real high end system before I made the choice. If you really want reliable, maybe an electric shifter like a Pingle is more up your alley.

Go to a ZX-10 forum and see what they suggest. This is not a real common mod for the average 14 rider but everyone that has the HM or Annitori around here seems to be happy with it. I'm prolly the least exuberant about it because of the missed shifting deal that has happened to me.

Seno, Wolfman and I think C-Blast have HM or Annitori. Ask them about it.

LOL, I think you might want to start a dif thread or revive an old one ...this is is the For Sale section.

Blkcasper,
Hope I haven't inconvenienced you but I have decided to get the new Annitori Quickshifter from my local dealer.
I figure that as it's a relatively new product I really need to be able to rely on the support locally should anything go wrong.
It'll cost me more but that's life.
Kind of insurance I guess.
But thanks for the kind offer mate...

Yannih, No problem man. probally better for you that way you get customer support for any issues. Hope the
information provided helps you out.. Cheers

I have decided to get the new Annitori Quickshifter from my local dealer.

i try to be impartial about reviewing the mods I've done. Most of my mods, i have to say do not make a world of difference on their own. With a QS, you are adding something to the bike that it did not have before. You will notice a big difference in the feel of the bike. I've ridden my busa after the 14 and the QS does make the bike faster in a straight line. it's money well spent.

i heard an Evo shift star is a great compliment to a QS. I may get one in this winter since i plan to remove the clutch cover anyway.

Hi all,
Rooks correct.
Got a little carried away on this thread under the Sale Section.
However if anyone is interested please see my new thread on the Annitori QS Pro quickshifter under Performace Upgrades.

Lastly, Evo Shift Star?
What's going on there?
Never heard of them?
I'll have a look on the net...

* Last updated by: yannih on 10/31/2014 @ 4:15 AM *

Just had a look.
Wow Rook.
Are they really that good?
And smoother shifting?
And clunkiness eliminated?
Surely it won't get rid of the famous ZX-14 neutral to first clunk???