CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?







CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
This is very interesting! We all need to read it from start to finish.....and send it on to anyone who will read it.
Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.
Can a good Muslim be a good American?
This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.
The following is his reply:
Theologically - no. . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia.
Religiously - no. . .. . Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256) (Koran).
Scripturally - no. . . . Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
Geographically - no. . .Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no. . . . Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews..
Politically - no. .. . . Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.
Domestically - no. . . . Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
Intellectually - no. . . . Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles, and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no. . . . Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no. . . . Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.
Therefore after much study and deliberation, perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country.
They obviously cannot be both "good" Muslims and good Americans.
* * * Call it what you wish; it's still the truth.
* * * You had better believe it.
* * * The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future. The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.
Wake up America ! PLEASE, please pass this to all in your address book.

I agree, cannot be trusted.

I dunno, guys....I talk to some Arab type folks fairly frequently and some of the younger ones--they've been here all their life and I don't get the feeling they are all that religious. They have assimilated into this culture and their religion has become more of a formality (like it is for many Christians) than a 100% way of life. They want to party and f**k just like I did when i was a lad in my twenties.

haha Rook, you can still party and f**K when you leave your twenties!!

When I was 20 it was fun to drink anything put in front of me and it really wasn't possible to hook up with anything but a very attractive young woman.

Nowadays, it's an easy thing to find great 40 year old whiskey...............?

if you can get your hands on a bottle of that stuff, most women of the same vintage start to look not too bad.

I guess that's the nice thing about riding. I never drink and ride and I don't have to.

* Last updated by: Rook on 12/8/2009 @ 11:43 PM *

"I never drink and ride,and don't have to"...Right on with that one Rook!!! I can remember a time when I couldn't do much of anything without drinking first.Thank God those days are gone.I could just see myself drinking and jumpin on my 14! Geez....say bye-bye world!!!(and God knows who else might get in the way).As far as Muslums go....I wish I could say yes without reservation.But if this is true....."being Muslum means you believe in the Quran.Believing in the Quran means the "removal" of all those who don't believe in Allah.Either by death,or slavery".....So-I don't know if it's possible to be Muslum and have real,genuine,caring friendships with "infidels".

* Last updated by: blue07 on 12/9/2009 @ 1:16 AM *

i dunno some can be funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQB85J_b2AY

Great link Scott, it's just to bad their religion is based on hatred...... of us. Not to mention it is the fastest growing religion in the world. Kind of puts us in a bad spot, wouldn't you say?

Can jews be good americans?

Yes-Jews ARE good Americans

Met a lady from Israel a few weeks ago. I can't tell what she is yet.

Yes-Jews ARE good Americans

Then how come Muslims aren't? Why are Jews better accepted?

Jews believe in ONE GOD-for starters.Secondly,the God they believe in is a GOD of mercy,not a God of"wipe out the infidels"-The old testament is full of examples of the grace of GOD being displayed while dealing with the Jews and the Gentiles(non-Jews).True Islamic Muslums are following the Quran-which clearly states(by their "prophet" Mohammed)that "infidels"(which is anyone who is NOT a believer in ALLAH)are to be killed by the sword or made slaves if they convert to Islam-never reaching full status as "a True Muslum".No doubt there are many "Muslums" who are "good" Americans-but when the conflict arises between "Americans"(infidels)and "True Muslums"-they must stand by their beliefs(as stated above)or become apostates.It's virtually impossible for true Muslums to have "friendships"with "infidels"(convert or die).So........the "Judeo-Christian" beliefs allow for everyone to follow what they choose.The Muslum faith(Islam)allows no such tolerance.Do I hate Muslums-no way-but sadly,they aren't allowed to feel this way about us "Americans",or any other people that are not Muslum.Jews DO NOT share the same "kill em all" attitude that the Muslums embrace.This is why trying to "appease" the Muslum World is NOT GOING TO WORK.They don't see us as "friends"-no matter how much we try to reach out and be friendly(like Obama's trying to appear as).And non-judgemental.WE ARE THE INFIDELS-along with the rest of the Western World.It doesn't matter to them if we're kind hearted,and open.They still have a duty to rid the earth of the infidels-bottom line.Even if it means killing their own people.(which is pretty much what's happening around the world).

* Last updated by: blue07 on 12/15/2009 @ 1:19 AM *

I think it's important to remember that we are talking about fundamentalists here. I would imagine a lot of Muslims around the world are exactly that. Living here, they have a job and most likely enjoy a much higher standard of living. That has its own way of converting people. I can hear everyone saying, "We hope..." Yes, we hope. Let's face it, religion doesn't usually play as big of a role in most Americans life as it does in other countries. With the huge differences between various Christian and other religious beliefs, we sort of have had to all accept or tolerate one another for some time now. I agree, there always is the "what if" factor. I don't know of any solution. We can't deport Muslims who have lived here for generations any more than we can persecute other non-Christians. Do we wait for another 9-11----------HELL NO! But I still am not sure suspecting all Muslims to be murderers is the best course of action.

That IS the dilemma-Of course I personally don't think of Muslums as (all) murderers.That's for sure.In my job,I probably meet a lot of Muslums-and wait on em.They certainly would be appalled and heartbroken to see anything happen to this country and it's people-especially in the "name" of ALLAH.Rational people realize that hate is not the solution.And yes-I am speaking of the Jihadists and fundementalists-when I say that they believe "we" are the "enemy" of Holiness.

* Last updated by: blue07 on 12/15/2009 @ 12:55 PM *

Of course, I knew you were, Blue. I was speaking hypothetically --not trying to accuse anyone of making any sweeping judgements. The problem is identifying the murderers and it is not entirely possible to leave religious beliefs out of the profile because that IS a defining characteristic of the terrorist group that promised to attack us again and again.

I am curious though.....If they are punishing their women for things like "not covering up",or wearing "Westernstyle" clothing,just what the heck are they gonna do with 72 VIRGINS? Those VIRGINS there are supposed to be/do what?So it's basically okay for the guys to lust after the "virgins",but NOT okay for any wives to dress"suggestively"(showing any skin or whatever). Makes me wonder exactly WHAT is driving these guys?The promise of sex?

* Last updated by: blue07 on 12/16/2009 @ 1:25 AM *

?? Die and you get to have the worst sex of your life 72 times.

Now THAT'S funny!!!!!WoHoooo!

* Last updated by: blue07 on 12/16/2009 @ 1:35 PM *

Do Muslim women get 72 male virgins if they die in the name Alla?

That might shed some light on why women generally outlive men.

Ya know-I never thought of that.Yeah...what's in it for Women!!!!THIS could be INTERESTING!!!Good one ROOK!(wonder if our Muslim friends here(if we've got any!!!)are pondering what ya just said?

* Last updated by: blue07 on 12/18/2009 @ 4:39 PM *

Women are dirt to them. You can be sure they get nothing. Not even in the after life. I watch them here in Toronto make their wives carry 8 bags of groceries while they walk 15 feet in front of them with nothing..... The women are more like pack mules. Me no understand

Guess they're just being "Godly"?

True Story; About 2 years ago my wife was in Shoppers Drugmart and a Muslim women came around the corner and banged her cart into my wifes cart. No biggy right? Wrong, my wife says sorry even though it's not her fault. Just being polite of course..... This is where things go BAD. The women in her Garb turns in fear and speeds off around the next aisle as fast as she can. This is where it gets weird. My wife continues in the same direction only to feel the presence of a man behind her. She turns to find this nut bar Muslim Man in a Rage pressing in nose against hers but won't speak... We now understand what my wife did wrong was, get this, She spoke to the women. This is not aloud. You must address the Man FIRST, before you can speak to the women. Who knew? Now this is Canada, is this man not supposed to respect our ways? Well after a 6 min stare down my wife was terrified and left the store. When I got there, he was long gone. Lucky 4 us both, because I would have shoved that dagger that they are allowed to carry in their socks right up his ass. It's Ok , I'm not bitter. This was a long time ago, but what saddens me is the fact that we will soon be surrounded with kind of crap every day and there is nothing we can do about it. It's just not right. None of this hit home for me until I looked at the demographics thread. What did they say 25 years ? Italy 9 years. My kids will have to prepare to be treated like shit. Whatcha think ?

Demographics Link