has anyone fitted old model ohlins ie 2006-20011 on a 14r , am looking into weather the new nix forks will fit on my 2009 14 . from what I can workout so far the 14r forks have only had internal changes so cant see any reason why the new ohlins would not fit.

What are the "new nix" forks? Far as I know the forks to get are the FGRTs and they are no longer being made for the ZX-14 so unless you can find a used pair you are SOL like the rest of us.

http://zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=AE5A8B99-1372-66AE-3BF2F4CD16C99A01&show=0

* Last updated by: Rook on 2/3/2014 @ 5:29 PM *

Oh I see now what you are looking at, Andy. Very very nice. Hope that works out for you.

Are the FGRT 207 (NIX 30mm) being made for the 14 again or is that some guy who has a few left over sets on hand?

I can't afford them but sure would like to own a set some day soon.

hi Rook the fgrt 807 is what ohlins use to make for the 2006-2011 zx 14 and have since stopped production. they have produced the fgrt 207 for the zx14r but list it for the 2012 model only they seem to be widely avalible but am not sure if they will fit a 2009 model , i presume they will as the forks on both models from what i can tell are dimentionly the same.

I'm interested. tell ya what. I'll email Dan Kyle for ya and ask. I may purchase from him when the time comes.

From: **************** [mailto:************]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:09 AM
To: dan@kyleusa.com
Subject: fitment FGRT 207 to 06-2012 ZX-14

Hi Mr Kyle.

I understand the Ohlins FGRT 807 fork is no longer available for the Gen1 Kawasaki ZX-14.

Yes that is correct



Will the new FGRT 207 that is listed to fit the new ZX-14r also fit a 2008 ZX-14 or a 2009 ZX-14?


Yes 2006-2012




ZZ-R 1400
2006-12
FGRT 207
FG R/T NIX
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04744-95

Thanks

Dan
831 394 1330

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So it appears that you certainly can put the ZX-14r fork on the Gen1.

Lucky dog , you. I'm praying for the $$$ theose are beautiful.

I was shopping Motomummy a month back. They had an outstanding deal but I do not know if they had the 207 for sale. I think they did. I like them as a supplier but gotta tell ya, they do not always know what fits what and they might just ask you to sign a safety waver if you order something that you know is right but their info tells them is wrong. In other words, buy from MM but ask around for info.

Good luck. Post pics if you get them.

Thanks Rook will be saving my pennys to get a set

me too.

or maybe not.....do your research andy. I hear the NIX forks are not up to the standards of the old Ohlins forks that were made for the 14. Best performance should be with staying with a stock tube and replacing the internals.

yeah I thought I had posted about it! Word on the track NIX are cheaper and made for a wider audience. I would stick with internals upgrade.

More news from Dan Kyle. Yes cheaper to produce but same or better quality than the old FGRTs for the 14.

Got your reply to the previous message. Have a new question.

I recently heard that the old FGRT 807 was actually a superior product to the FGRT 207.

I would not agree with that

That would have been very foolish for any company to do.


Supposedly, the 207 forks were made to sell to a broader market niche and Ohlins trimmed back on the internal mechanism compared to what they put in the FGRT 807. Any truth to that?

No

Ohlins designed these to be equal or better than the 25 MM cartridge forks, this includes all FGRT8XX series forks.

They designed them to be less expensive to make and then raised the price higher than the FGRT8XX series forks, as they had wanted to raise the FGRT8XX series forks for a very long time. A new fork was the opportunity to do that.


Thanks

Dan
831 394 1330

Of course Dan Kyle is selling these so there is no reason to elaborate on how the new forks may be inferior to the old ones but I trust that he would be honest about their at least being being equal in pewrformance.

To me seems like the jury is still out. More opinions are needed. It's a lot of money to spend without knowing for sure. That is one reason I am not so disappointed that I cannot afford them at this time.

* Last updated by: Rook on 2/7/2014 @ 2:37 PM *

The reviews I read on them where from guys who invested heavily into racing. A lot of them didn't like the new forks. I was interested because I heard that they were 30mm instead of 25mm but I could be wrong. If you wanna go for looks and performance (more look than performance), it's the best way to go. If you just want better suspensions, just upgrade the internals (about $300). In my opinion, I doubt that I will notice the difference between those and my set up but if I can scoop some on sale somewhere, I would jump on it. If you want to leave no doubt, then it's the Ohlins FGR300 Superbike Forks but those cost 14 k and they're probably too hard for our common bumpy roads.

thanks, drag.

yes the new ones are 30mm up from 25mm.

Motomummy has the R&T fork for $2K.

https://www.motomummy.com/fork-fork-tube-caps/ohlins-fgrt-r-t-forks/

Motomummy also claims they have the 200 series fork for the ZX-14 which should be the new one.

https://www.motomummy.com/fork-fork-tube-caps/ohlins-fgrt200-fork/

* Last updated by: Rook on 2/10/2014 @ 3:58 AM *

no problem sir. My suspensions guru told me he would have gone with 30mm instead of 25 but the 14 fork tubes don't allow for that. With 30 mm, I think you would be able to achieve a more planted feeling while maintaining better bumps "absorption". I've gotta say though, whether it's triple digit sweepers or tight slow descending corners I have no issue with the suspensions. It's really confidence inspiring.

With 30 mm, I think you would be able to achieve a more planted feeling while maintaining better bumps "absorption".

IDK, maybe the stock front suspension could be worse. Maybe I am just expecting or hoping for too much from this 500 lb beast. The forks always seemed a bit mushy too me. Perhaps I should try stiffening them up. Perhaps the Ohlins forks would not really make a great deal of difference for me in cornering. I think the stock forks works great for everything else I need them to do. They handle wheelies and make for a nice gentle ride on the highway. Whatever I can do to make the 14 more of a cornering bike is what I want though. There is a limit. The $14000 superbike forks are way past that limit.

* Last updated by: Rook on 2/10/2014 @ 10:27 AM *

I read about this English guy that found a set for 5000 pounds. His blade had a lot of HRC parts. The used items market is great in Europe.
As the 14 suspensions. I guess it depends of the area you ride in and your style. Here in Texas, we have a lot of hills, descending and ascending turns. It didn't take long for me to notice the vagueness of the front forks. Just yesterday, I heard the back wheel spin faster (went airborne for a second ). A quicker turn in is also very nice and since I'm running a 19x20 setting on my brake MC, I need stiffer front suspensions so I don't blow through the stroke. That being said, I would say that if you are happy with the current set up, don't spend the $$.

* Last updated by: dragking on 2/10/2014 @ 4:54 PM *

I think the Traxxion Dynamics or other internals upgrade would be a very practical step. If that doesn't seem to do much for you, I would not expect the Ohlins to either. I really just want these forks though. One thing that would steer me in the direction of TractioDynamics would be if the Ohlins forks were heavier than stock. I need to know the weight before I buy these. For something that is replacing OEm parts and costing a bundle, I expect light weight. I'd send them back if they were 5 oz heavier than stock.

Hey Rook, I've got ohlins forks and shock. I'm not sure of the weight compared to stock. The performance is far superior to the stock stuff. I never thought about suspension much until I started riding with guys who had Traxxion forks/ohlins shocks on there bikes. I couldn't believe the corner speed they could carry. Your bike will feel like a weapon in the corners, also you won't believe how much better your brakes are once you stop your bike from collapsing while hard on the binders. Scrubbing off speed on a bumpy road is alot less eventful than before.

Traxxion was my second choice, I think there stuff is great. Like I said I ride with guys that use them. I know they have great customer service and stand behind there products. So go for it, you won't regret it.

OHHH. this is killing me, wfozx14! Thanks for input. I'm back to "HAVE TO HAVE IT." unfortunately my bank account is saying otherwise. OMG--should I do another damn balance transfer on my credit card? A year of payments, about $200/month. I am just about finished paying off the hayabusa stuff.

* Last updated by: Rook on 2/11/2014 @ 10:48 AM *

Just do the Ohlins Shock and Forks internals then but I know you're like me and those yellow forks are just too sexy. One day, when I'm rich! About the weight, I'd give up that obsession, you're pretty close already and there will always be a lighter 14. Are you going to go all out and get custom machined parts like Mass did? It's all about trade offs. I'd take a couple of pounds if I can brake and corner better any days and shedding lbs doesn't mean anything if it doesn't make you go faster. I read your bike was struggling a little bit under acceleration and that you didn't increase corner speed with the lighter wheels. Get your suspensions sorted man! Until then you're just shooting in the dark. I'm glad Wfo mentioned how people with dialed in suspensions were faster than him... Sometimes we'd stop for a minute and some guys will be commenting about a corner being bumpy and how they went wide cause they stopped pushing on the handlebar. More often than not I ask: which corner? lol
Also with the Ohlins shock the bike squat less under acceleration but at the same time it's absorbing the forces so the front doesn't go all crazy on me.

Just do the Ohlins Shock and Forks internals then but I know you're like me and those yellow forks are just too sexy.

About the weight, I'd give up that obsession, you're pretty close already and there will always be a lighter 14. Are you going to go all out and get custom machined parts like Mass did? It's all about trade offs. I'd take a couple of pounds if I can brake and corner better any days and shedding lbs doesn't mean anything if it doesn't make you go faster.

I read your bike was struggling a little bit under acceleration and that you didn't increase corner speed with the lighter wheels. Get your suspensions sorted man! Until then you're just shooting in the dark.

Regardless, if I get a fancy aftermarket susupension, that will be all the more reason to get it sorted out properly.

* Last updated by: Rook on 2/13/2014 @ 5:07 AM *

Just do the Ohlins Shock and Forks internals then but I know you're like me and those yellow forks are just too sexy.

God I hate to admit it but having that little blue Ohlins logo on the side of the tube bottom...it just wouldn't be the same if I had a vinyl sticker mad and put that on the OEM fork. That would be being TOO much of a poser!

Just had a peek at the 14 out there under its blanket. You cant see the bottom of the fork tube on the 14 where the Ohlins logo would be located unless you bend way over and look up under there. The inner tube of the Ohlins is a nice yellow though and you could see that. .The Ohlins fork bottom is silver but really, I think I prefer the OEM gray frame color fork bottoms with my wheels. Or better, how about Ohlins in ALL GOLD!!

It would be sacrilege to paint Ohlins forks. Even just (perhaps especially) the bottoms.

* Last updated by: Rook on 2/13/2014 @ 11:44 AM *

Sorry for the poor quality pics,and the sideways one, just ran out to the garage and snapped a couple with my phone. I think the Ohlins color goes good with everything.

* Last updated by: wfozx14 on 2/13/2014 @ 6:22 PM *

that works very nice with the silver rim. My blue rim would look nice too but I'd really like to see it with all gold or maybe anodized blue bottoms.

Just been reading through this 4 year old thread on Ohlins forks.
I’d be interested to hear from other members who have forked out ( pun intended ) around 2.5k US or 4K Aus $
Your always there Rook. Good to know.
Lot of cash to hand over. But it’s coming down to going for it, or dare I say, considering a bike change.
Not sure where I’d go tho for another bike ?
Hard to leave the 14 muscle.
H2 tourer maybe ?
Doubt there’s a test ride to be had.