How can I tell if my bike is running too rich or lean????? I am starting to notice that some black soot is starting to build up on the tip off my exhaust.

It's running rich mate

Soot as in it starts up, the condensation in the pipe spits out and peppers your pipe kind of soot?

I start my bike without touching the throttle and poof, I get a plume of black soot upon startup.

I have seen a clean running pipe, and mine looks like it is over sooty.

I have a mapiss crap is sort of runs worse when I installed it.

No wait! It ran better as it does now.

No, I don't have a PC. This just started after I installed the pipe. No wait! The pipe was on for awhile, now I see soot and I can'tell if my pipe can create or destroy carbon out the tip kind of am I stuck with that soot or do I have a tuning problem it runs bitchen like what's the story?

I've always had a bit of black accumulate around the end of the pipe. Not a lot, just enough that it's noticeable when you look for it. Usually that indicates you are rich at some point in your injection. Where - you really can't know unless you Dyno with a exhaust gas analyzer hooked up. However, I would not worry much as long as your not getting black circles on your pants every time you brush past. That would happen on my heavily modded Gsxr but that thing was carburated too. Oh how I don't miss having brand new clean jeans on and going to get on the bike and putting a big black circle on them!

Biggz70,

Did we buy a new pipe? Yes, I'm bored. Yes, I'm talking to myself. Yes, take the bet, I bet I pissed off Brock over at the pond, someone sent in that url diary and I caught some concept about removing carbon buildup or who knows WOT-WATT?

What I tried to mention hidden between the, "The Best Can BeaT BeaTT'INN" with a T is get the tech right in my world or it's going to foul plugs right and left you better make absolute sense out the ass.

Pound RB Racing the same fucking way get TIT WRITE or your tit goes in the ringer [IF] EYE know my shit is tough shit! I'm tired of making excuses for the MAS IS and some air flow concept of the same fucking abstract is the same party farty out the meachinespeak. Light She Wheat Crude is the same ass that seed. Boil the goo = Distilled Weights.

Those weights turn into diesel/jet/race/car/paraffin = You cannot create or destroy that gassloshing matter. The concept says, "More Power Less CARBON?"

Take that concept, apply the steps to the absolute. Does that concept work in the absolute way as does the machine runs in absolute steps or she no run. If we half our pound, glass, air = We are done:

Dose Amigo Tuned to the SOOT is it tuned:

A. Is for the asshole that I am, lettuce gethistraightoday as is everyday I wake up. I've been told over and over but you stay the fuck in your fizz sicks and I'll keep my physics, thank you very amount. A is for all that she wrote on the scoreboard. That glass is one cylinder X times Y you, you! That tells the score if you run lean to rich. That table says lean queenzini.... ^^^^^^ Oh yeah.... ^^^^^^ You gonna add a sneez'inn valve to that quench is wrench'in, if it gets there? Oh, ^^^^^ Yeah, look at that ^^^^^^. Slow, the smoke is choke is out the ass end is rich torque if you can getit?

B. Says, I am the amigo stuck in the glass is my gas out the ass. I'm stuck in a glass and you pick the size. Shot, to a big gulp I don't give a shit if you toss the light sweet crude halfilled in that absolute chart/scale/is all she wrote is that chart = AFR. I'm in the glass all ready for some liquid boil out the ground. How crude we gonna make this in the absolute is toot it up someones ass they stand in front of that fish market, spin that sign that is over someone's head like that home built pile in the desert with that clown spinning that sign is sign up for a home brew.

C. Is for the liquid fill, call me perfect AFR = 14.7:1; I am filled to (((?))) level and now I sport a SOOT. The cylinder, the air, the liquid. We start at zero chart. From there, we change AFR. If I want more HP; If I want to move a mountain; If I want to make a wave = Don't I need more; TNT for the mountain; More wave I add Tsunami I have HP boy do I. Now I blew the mountain level flat, so too are the townclowns. How do you make more HP if you want less carbon is you cannot create or destroy that RATIO = TurnKey Torque!

Every time you bang off that liquid that was a solid and now is more a gas. YOu see that glass in the ass is the ratio you cut a map and your ass is cut rather? Rather you cannot created or destroy that powder. YOu add how many minutes times each 360° is that carbon dated all dating and dotting your cylinder ring at the top of the barrel. The piston dome, the head, valves, port, pipe, tip, on your pants, in the air = Where is that HP? Where is that TNT we make more HP with less mountain moving that piston down?

Foreskin every action, there is a pull on your dick and you stroke on that concept is I'm sending that down is choke on it is a concept you cannotouch DIS.

Hub, I rread your post all the time and they are funny but now that I need real help to find out what I need to do, I cant understand you what so ever. Is this something I should be worried about or can I let it slide. Do I need to get my PC3 turned down or something let me know.

Biggz,

Shut the PC off. See if it runs cleaner. OEM is your base signal. This is an electronic feel, not some jetting carb throw the choke plates up kind of tuning deal. When you unplug the map, she is going to either perk up or you think you lost something overall.

You can't ride my bike from here. I'm chasing Ivan and locking down thatune with the OEM in that raw data kind of test ride. That soot is low rpm, whathe fuck you (low-rpm) putt'inn in the street with an overich ride? I have no subs in the way. I have a bearing at the exit of a gutted OEM can. Call it as noisy as yours.

Do you see me throwing more gas at a quiet muffler? I don't care I can see that pipe from here you do not need a PC on the putt. This is open loop like no 02 at the pipe to make an adjustment like it needs one? You see that preset all in a swing and never near any lean running..... Running. I didn't say lift is lean like how do you slow down a fuel injected engine without float, jet, etc. You lean crap out of it and that means; closed throttle I got your single number pumping the lift off the intake air sensor knows you lift as in reverse pull is now a push. Click-Click = One Signal out the ass usual.

I have to work or solve questions Brock screams lean and I see how FI returns to idle. See me looking for answers there? See me ask RB Racing an FI-q and his url is junk out the mouth is he must have stood on his hands when he spoke that shit out. You're laughing and I'm backing up truth is fact is the abstract. Prove me wong is get out the gong and now utubebanningme.

I can't help ya guy is I run bone stock no crying on line LOL

* Last updated by: Hub on 5/10/2011 @ 3:47 AM *

I'm thinking someone got carried away with your fuel map on the PC and you didn't install it. Do some reading of the PC manual from Dynojet, then down load their map database and try uploading some maps and see what happens. Just make sure you save the one on the PC now incase you can't find a good replacement.

Are you getting any bogging through the rpm range in any certain gear? If so that is a place on your map you will want to keep an eye on.

You really can't hurt much by trying different maps as long as you're not lazy and leave some POS map in there and ride around for a week with it.

All else fails or you just don't want to mess with it yourself, the surefire way to rectify the sitch is to take it to a place where they have a Dynometer and can tune sport bikes and they will get your bike setup the best it can be with your setup.

Until you get into making your own custom maps from scratch, they've really taken the work out of the fuel injection system. It just depends on how much time or moneyt you want to throw at it until it gets sorted out...

GL

Oh and it may be a long shot, but make sure your maintaining the same oil level and your not actually burning oil due to some engine damage. No amount of tuning will fix that. I also had that prob with my Suzy! lol

Biggz,

I'm throwing bombs at you right and left you need to rehash what I said. More power means more TNT. You move rocks with DYNOmite, not some M-80 M-100 map I need a map. Some grid is blowing in; too much rich. That means black soot buildup. Or is it? Runs fine? Feels like it needs more? Downloaded another map; she cleaned UP?

It too could mean good running, has power, no stumble "Soot BuildUP" = Normal can't create or destroy matter so that soot color don't matter. I am writing out a verbal 'toggle banging' watching that AFR meter. It's like 'tone riding' a jet change/ign swap/on-off she goes. I can feel the stumbel/tone/camera spike, the digital ping I get on [IT-IS] a signal change. That ping, more swaps a designated grid, all the way down the layers call it.

If we speak computer layer like you see on the screen you are reading, you more look down a mirror that reflects a mirror. You see that infinity down the one mirror are those maps and/or the box you write in is a sheet or mirror. The hot click on a line, your arrow turns to a hand pointing; that is a layer-over. Then you have the 1's and 0's pinging all up and down that mirror map you suck on that vacuum/TPS/CS (crank speed/throttle position/intake suckage).

You hack the bike a special way, you can break the rear wheel using the same throttle consistency = Assfactor. And no, it is not even close you throwing that wheel on a DYNO-might solve your problems>>> The tuner keeps an eye on that AFR meter to set some mappage.

And assfactorsimple ass it sounds, DYNOyet hasaidit better than I and they make the product. I'll just paraphrase; "Find peak HP out of silver-snowflake, not our map, not a loaner map, not a map passed back and forth say nothing map you thought it was map is crap pin up your ping mirror cause and effect silver is not my bike is even close is my bike even tuned up."

If anything, I modded way overboard for any HP gain. It shows I lost HP by removing those inner fairing air bladders. I'll know nextime. That's like a bump-bump-bump (can'touch dis) here comes backup-bladder-bump-bump cantouch'dish. I'd scrape the bearing race(s) off the sumpan ^^^^ Chop up some shallot onions ^^^^^ Smear that inn dare ^^^^^^ Oh yeah.

Times UP! Now going into sleep mode. Here's cab fare.

Bigzz, the Power Commander is just plugged inline in the harness. If you can find the big plugs behind the motor and pull the PC out of the harness and just plug the two Harness connectors into each other the ignition will go back to stock and you can ride on the factory map like Hub said, which according to the mods you listed should put you on the lean side. As far as Hub I don't think he likes PC's much and will generally tell you not to use it at all, which is completely up to you of course.