Depends on the tire green. Street/ Race tires like bridgestone 16 or s20 , pilot power's , c3s ect your lucky to get 4-6 k out of them. These Pr4's have basically the same grip and better wear. Air pressure also plays a huge part in tire wear. The stock M5's were only good for about 8k and that was pushing it. I commute about 500 miles a week, do about 200-400 miles on the weekend in the twisties. Trust me my tires are put to the test.

* Last updated by: Blkcasper on 12/20/2014 @ 5:59 PM *

I do trust ya...and I believe you ride spirited.I'm just wondering...have always wondered really...how guys get these outrageous mileages from basically the same tires I've tried and used.I know I'm not riding any harder than most of you...probably less.The only thing I can think of is...the chip seal they coat all these roads up here with....

and as you say...I've run the gamut over the years of using 'sport' tires as opposed to 'hi mileage' tires.2K more out of a 'SportTouring' tire designed for.."hi mileage' isn't very good...seeing how they hype these tires up so much...I just can't get that kind of mileage...though I won't use a sport tire...haven't for several years now because of the mileage deal.

You say you got 8K out of yer Metzlers...I got less than 4K...it was toast.See what I mean?And I wasn't railing everywhere...far from it.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 12/20/2014 @ 6:35 PM *

Yeah man could be the roads too,, here in cali the roads are some what well naintained and since the worst weather we get is rain and fog, unless you live up in the mountain ares in the winter where they salt the roads because of snow and thats only a few monts out of the year. LOL. alwys seems like there repaving or redoing the roads here every 2 - 3 years, Man i swair some on them are so smooth and sticky youd' swear you were on a race track... LOL

Hub; Sure, it was all covered under my warranty/extended warranty, but that also means my bike was stripped down by the dealership twice, I lost riding time, and I had to drive it 75 miles each way to the dealership in 30 degree weather. Just pointing out the Kaw factory is far from perfect.

3,800 miles on my factory bridgestone S20's, and the rear is toast. No burnouts, but I do ride it pretty hard, and at times ride at a high rate of speed for great distances. That last bit is where the tire wears the fastest, high speed over long distance. After doing so, my rear looks like I just did a burnout with it. The reason is wind resistance, because that tire has to start really digging in to overcome that added resistance.

I've got a set of Angel GT's sitting in the garage waiting. Guess I'll see how they work out this go round.

I'm with Grn, 5K tops. I guess it depends on what kind of usage and types of roads. I know a guy in Pennsylvania who says the roads out there shred his tries, much more so that when he lived on the west coast.

Just pointing out the Kaw factory is far from perfect.

For example, my experience is:
'06 = Assembled well.
'08 = Cut front wheel seal/cut top steering neck dust cover ~ Faulty Assembly.
'013 = Assembled well.

Design is from scratch say, so near perfect.
Parts are hanging in there mile after mile and that brings in the bullet.
A-Line assembled on a saki Monday is not the parts or design's fault which shows the rest of the proof.

We'd be shitting on one dependable dynamo.

It's not that I don't believe people here about tires lasting 15k miles, but it's got to be pretty rare.

Seems like there's something missing from the equation. 15k kms I can see, but that's still great range in miles. I have a hard time believing anyone could get 10k miles out these M5s. I can only see this happening in the case of never riding aggressively, and I mean NEVER. I do wonder too if concrete is harder on tires than asphalt. The track I use is concrete, and that 400 mile weekend that seemed to blast my tires I was goofing around on the bypass which is all concrete and that seemed to cause more wear than normal.

Im on my 2nd 14R. First was a 2012 and i put 16,000 on her. New one is a 2014 and Ive already put 7600 on this one. Only issue was the 2 fairing to frame bolts on the 2012...one fell out. Also a couple lower fairing bolts fell out. So now I blue loctite those. Never any other issues. Love these bikes. Ive put several sets of tires on the 2 bikes and the Michelin Pilot Power 3 have been fabulous. I got over 6k on the last set and they were not worn out completely and I weigh 240. Great handling tire as well.

A few things also to consider. Wrong air pressure is the biggest reason tires will wear out faster. The center of the tires will wear out twice as fast as the sides..tire profiles are also somthing to consider. Even if a given tire is the same size each manufacturer will use different tire compounds and construction. Say you set your air pressure at say 40psi cold. Once tires heat up that air pressure will rise 2-5 psi depending on how hard your riding road conditions and temp. So that would put air pressure at a round 45 psi. Summertime I use a lower pressure when cold to compensate for change. Higher air pressure in colder months. So check your air pressure before you go for a ride the check it after a few miles on a sperited ride. Then adjust air for a happy medium. Different types of tires will require and handle different with the set air pressure. Example my s20s on my zx10 seemed to perform better with 30-34 psi. Ct3s liked 26-30 psi . On zx14 M5's liked 38-40 psi. Pr4's liked 40-43 psi. Your weight and riding style also plays a part. I tend to be be smooth on throttle imputs and use lower gears for engine braking and carry more speed though corners and less hard braking. Plus im kinda a light weight. Im like 180 suited. So on my zx10 I get 6-8k.. on zx14 8-12k with above mentioned tires. Suspension setup also plays a huge part if not setup for your weight and riding style

* Last updated by: Blkcasper on 12/21/2014 @ 3:58 PM *

Fido I snugged down my body bolts to avoid this. I know many people say as loose as possible, but I see no reason not to snug them down. If you do this, pretty much gaurantee they won't fall out, loctite or not. A few of mine were so loose off the showroom floor it's hard to believe they lasted the ride home. The windscreen bolts were so loose I could literally push down on the windscreen and it would pull away from the fairing around 3/8ths of an inch.

Like Nastynotch said earlier, massive torque and rubber don't mix well!

This is my 3rd ZX and I have had ZERO problems with all of them, routine maint. is all I have ever had to do!!!

Come to think of it, I don't remember ever having any problems with any of the Big K bikes I have owned, they make good stuff, PERIOD!!!

I just rolled past 24.5k miles, on my 2012 (bought Feb 13), and I have over 10K on a front Road 4... getting a little funky, but could probably get another 2k if I push it. I've had only one problem, relay for Hi beams went out at around 12k, and valves were a little tight when adjusted @ 23k. Hadn't checked them since 7.5k.

December 2014 Ride

I don't know how you all get so many miles out of the tires on the 14R. I am getting 1500 miles max out of the rear S20's and 4-5k out of the fronts. The last rear was down to the chords at 1300 miles. I weigh 200 lbs. Sure, I ride really hard most of the time, but who doesn't on a 14R? I never do burnouts, just really aggressive street riding. Hell, I never got 5k out of a rear on any of my sport bikes going back 20 years. My old 1992 ZX11 that I bought new back then never got more than 2500 on the rear. How do you all do it???

Lol! Kalispell?!

I have someone you should meet.

Ride where it's cold 10 months out of the year?

Like Nastynotch said earlier, massive torque and rubber don't mix well!

This is my 3rd ZX and I have had ZERO problems with all of them, routine maint. is all I have ever had to do!!!

Come to think of it, I don't remember ever having any problems with any of the Big K bikes I have owned, they make good stuff, PERIOD!!!

So you're saying I should not have torqued them to 150 ft lbs? It's great that Nasty says not to, I say to. Frankly I'd rather have a stuck bolt (which will never happen...at least due to my "snugging" them) than a lost one and part possibly falling loose while riding.

A little common sense goes a long way. If someone doesn't have the judgment to know what's too much then they shouldn't do it. Probably shouldn't even work on, and maybe not even ride, a motorcycle. I have no problem snugging them up. Every bolt I snugged up I was able to remove to put my exhaust and other maintenance no issues at all.

I got 15500km out of my Michelin Pilot 3 tyres. Originals lasted 4500km. I check tyre pressure each fill and if I ride to work I take of smoothly (not too much throttle).

I got 15500km out of my Michelin Pilot 3 tyres. Originals lasted 4500km. I check tyre pressure each fill and if I ride to work I take of smoothly (not too much throttle).

Assuming you mean Pilot Roads. I know these are subjective questions, one mans "aggressive riding" may not be anothers...

How aggressive of a rider are you?

Do you do much sport riding (high lean angle, performance oriented cornering)? If yes, just wondering on your take of the level of grip I could expect on multi-compound ST tires vs. sport tires?

Quite honestly I think I'd be good with PR4s as far as how I ride. But am concerned a little with when I'm riding aggressively. This involves breaking from 100 (~900-1000 foot straights) to around 30-40 mph 90+ degree turns and a 1st gear hairpin, and then accelerating out of those turns. Generally I achieve near full lean angle on my M5s. I've scraped my pegs a couple times hitting bumps mid turn. When I run my track, my wheels are covered in brake dust.

I'm also consider Q3s, although what I'm reading is even though they are MC for a lot of riders don't last any longer than single compound tires.