When it seems like the entire world is against you... look within yourself to find the problem... chances are, you will discover the root.

And as far as Hub calling me a Pussy, that's not how I interpreted his statements... but if so, he's earned the right. You like to fling shit at him because he "never came in first"... Well atleast he entered the fucking race! I have seen his trophys first hand... Sitting on the mantle... Hope to have my own there some day.

Let me ask you... I know I'm brash, but besides that, am I outta line with this guy? I don't think I am... but this is your forum and if you say the word, I will back off. I mean, you do see how he instigates this shit, right? I know it would be better if I just let it roll... but a guy can only take so much... Real world, face to face, this would have been squashed long ago.

You know, I haven't taken the time to read through all of the messages here in detail. Been a bit too busy. I do see that you both keep pushing on each other pretty hard.

You both have been around here and contributing for a long time, and you're both grown-ups.

I dunno, though. Seems like life is too short to be spending time arguing, trying to prove that your point of view or your opinions are the best somehow.

Actually, I've been thinking about some of Grn's recent postings and realize more than I did before that different folks really like very different things. I've heard a lot of older riders say they don't care at all about speed. I can't imagine that, but I accept it.

Grn likes the challenge of going very fast on open roads, and probably wouldn't enjoy the track. I'm fascinated by finding ways to get around a racetrack faster -- without ending up on the ground during the learning process. Without those fascinations/motivations, I imagine the track would be boring.

Same with sports... I could care less about basketball and baseball (boring -- I don't know why they bother...), hockey is mildly interesting sometimes, football can be exciting if you're all in for a particular team. But what I really appreciate and enjoy is watching Barclay's Premier League soccer. That and motorcycle racing, of course. A lot of this is wrapped up in how well (or how little) you understand the sport, I think.

Just because someone else has a different mind set doesn't mean we have to rag on them, though. Doesn't seem productive to try to prove to someone that you're right and they're wrong when it's all subjective.

I just hope that you're both still enjoying the forum in general... -bg

I think you nailed it proper BG....right on the mark.There are some diametrically opposed views here that I think are coming from personal dislike towards someone else.If that's what some here want to promote...nothing can change that.I'm glad you 'clarified' some of my statements regarding how I feel about riding.Someone does 'get it' here.You know...I CAN not be the 'best of buds' with anyone if that's what I choose to do....that's fine.Same goes with anyone else towards me.That doesn't bother me one bit.I'm not here to 'put others down' or cast a light on anyone so others will think "less' of them.But that's not the case with some here.With that...I'll stay off Dogo's 'can't ride' topic.And his future topics.I don't rate...sa'll good.But I sure love to carve and roll!

"Trophys".....there's a lot more to riding than trophys."I hope to have some someday"....then act like a winner and stop using me as your excuse for being YOU.I'm not making you respond to ANYTHING.PERIOD.Take responsibility for your own actions and words....you'll get yer Trophies...guaranteed.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 3/13/2012 @ 1:28 PM *

I'll stay off Dogo's 'can't ride' topic.And his future topics.

TY

"Trophys".....there's a lot more to riding than trophys."I hope to have some someday"....then act like a winner and stop using me as your excuse for being YOU.

YOU give yourself WAY too much fucking credit.

Listen..you want good things from your riding.I want you to have good things from your riding.I hope you DO get your trophies.I think I can speak from a slightly different outlook about things....because I've been there.Nobody knows really...until they've been there.And I don't mean riding a race.I'm talking about wisdom.You want to be able to look yerself in the eye someday while you're admiring your Trophies with yer kids and all...and know within yerself..."I did this with humility and integrity"....THAT's the trophy my friend.NOT...'how many guys did I drive into the ditch cause all I cared about was ME winning"....You won't end up telling your kids about living life with values and knowing inside yer lying about 'how you did it'...that's all.No.I don't dislike you...never did.I hope you win...at everything in your life.

Grn14

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RE: F*ck This Sh*t!!!!
03/13/12 1:51 PM

Listen..you want good things from your riding.I want you to have good things from your riding.I hope you DO get your trophies.I think I can speak from a slightly different outlook about things....because I've been there.Nobody knows really...until they've been there.And I don't mean riding a race.I'm talking about wisdom.You want to be able to look yerself in the eye someday while you're admiring your Trophies with yer kids and all...and know within yerself..."I did this with humility and integrity"....THAT's the trophy my friend.NOT...'how many guys did I drive into the ditch cause all I cared about was ME winning"....You won't end up telling your kids about living life with values and knowing inside yer lying about 'how you did it'...that's all.No.I don't dislike you...never did.I hope you win...at everything in your life.

Save your great "wisdom" for someone who gives a fuck about the shit you spew.

Now, I repeat... GTFO!

LOLz

Hay Doggo,
Who's in the old photo?
Reminds me of the 60's when I had a Norton Commando. Only thing is I had no idea as to what a knee drag was then. Nice to see the lack of helmet...those were the days, just jump on and ride. It was amazing how well those old tires worked!

Long time no see, Sharkey!... bumped up a good thread.

The rider is John Surtees

Wow!! That pic was when he was 15?!

Truly awe-inspiring when pure talent meets the vocation for which it was destined.
A used car salesman was waxing philosophical with me a few years back. He said "some of the greatest poetry, music, fastest racers, etc are taken to the grave... never revealed to the world... because the people who posessed all that talent werent exposed to the instruments necessary to exploit it."

It would appear the universe would not tolerate young Surtee going to grave without first showing this planet how man and machine perform as one.

Oh... another lovely cold snap in Pa... just in time for the weekend. And the Penguins suck. Yay Pittsburgh!

Oh... another lovely cold snap in Pa... just in time for the weekend.

Terrible weather here in Philly, raining for the past two weeks, and more rain expected this weekend! :-(

NINJA ZX-14 MotoVlog

Speaking about shit and Dog-Oh Shit!

Lol... those are pleasant beasties! I love em.

You got bacon in your pocket, Hub?... Fuckin' Cesar Millan 'n chit.

we here in NY have had 7 days of nasty weather, f that, and we are expecting another 2 weeks of clouds