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Created on: 06/08/16 07:22 AM

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Rear Reservoir
06/08/16 7:22 AM

I finally found an affordable mod.. Tygon tube + cap I hope the 8mm will fit the rear master. I know the tubing is available for less, and I think I have some left over from the last bike, but it's handy to find a kit with hopefully the right tubing and a cap at one shop.



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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/08/16 7:40 AM

The master cylinder has a fairly large diameter fitting. Hope that fits. I also planned to do a similar mod using Tygon tubing and an aftermarket reservoir instead of a cap. Please let us know how/if the 8mm fits. If not, i know at least one member has used an aftermarket reservoir with the OEM tube cut to length. Tha would not be much of a weightloss mod though. Going for ultimate weightloss??? Good for you!



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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/08/16 8:31 AM

Well, the goal is to get over 200 in the mile without losing much weight myself. I figure I'll try to follow Shane's later build with a little more weight loss and a couple more little bolt-ons, like a quick shifter.. I'm not as small or experienced as Shane and Rachel, will need all the help I can get.
Plan to follow your weight loss tips and replace some of the metal brackets with carefully cut carbon fiber braces.
Probably the most important part of my plan is practice, but until my job gets straightened out and I can afford to replace major components and insurance I'm stuck window shopping and trying to find cheap ways to lose a little weight.
Plus it annoys me to see the large rear reservoir every time I take the seat off.



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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/08/16 1:12 PM

will need all the help I can get.

I haven't followed Shane's racing recently but I'm sure the Gen2 will get to 200 and if it doesn't, throw in a nitrus kit. That will get a Gen1 over 200 for sure. The kit I have got the previous owner to about 203 mph using just a small shot and no spray bar.

Plus it annoys me to see the large rear reservoir every time I take the seat off.

Yeah, me too. There's better stuff to put under the seat than that. The aftermarket reservoir I have has an aluminu lid which will nullify all of the weight loss but I can always remove it and cap the tube instead.



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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/10/16 4:23 PM

May be able to stretch it... but I'm thinking 8mm (5/16) isn't gonna work.
Find some 9 or 10mm and a/some cool cap(s)... Valve stem cap(s)?... and make your own kit($).



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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/10/16 8:25 PM

This is what I'll use. Motomummy only has 6mm and 8 mm

2475 Tygon Tubing in all sizes

They also have 2375 if you think that might be better but 24 sounds best to me.


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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/13/16 8:57 AM

Great link... but shipping cost from them seems high, IMO.
I hadn't done much research (see any) on different grades of Tygon... but 2375 is what everyone, including myself, uses for brake hose.
Quick scan of specs looks like 2475 is a little more heat resistant, but less chemical resistant... I'd stick to the 2375... even it gets a bit "squishy" over time, IME.
What did you see about the 2475 that makes you think it would be better?


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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/13/16 1:45 PM

From the description on the site's Tygon tubing page

, 2375 sounds more chem resistant than 2475. However, according to the info, 2475 is noted for not being prone to releasing its own constituents or allowing outside lements to permeate it...and those are key for keeping brake fluid pure which is the whole reason for using Tygon tubing over other kinds of tubing. 2475 also looks like it is clearer from the pics on the above linked page.

Tygon® 2375 Ultra Chemical Resistant Tubing
This tubing offers an unequaled combination of chemical resistance, clarity and flexibility. It is virtually unaffected by acids, bases, ketones, salts and alcohols, enabling it to meet the requirements of many applications, from filling battery acid to handling hazardous material.
Non-DEHP & plasticizer-free
Will not prematurely embrittle or crack
Exceptionally smooth, inner bore
Reduces the potential for contamination
Non-DEHP & plasticizer-freeInhibits particulate buildup
Durometer hardness (shore A): 75
Temperature range: -103°F to 130°F
Meets FDA standards, EU & NSF 51 compliant

Tygon® 2475 High-Purity Tubing
Ideal for handling sensitive fluids such as pharmaceutical or biological solutions. There is virtually no absorption of key fluid constituents into the tubing material or fluid absorption onto the tubing walls.
Plasticizer free
Virtually no extractables
Extremely low sorption to aqueous fluids
Unaffected by sanitizers & cleaners
Durometer hardness (shore A): 72
Temperature range: -94°F to 125°F
Biocompatibility to the ISO 10993 standard
Meets FDA & USP Class VI standards



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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/13/16 1:51 PM

I know brake fluid will break down ABS plastic and paint films so that is why I thought the most chemical resitant Tygon would be best even if it was more likely to allow contamination. If you used 2475 and it was not deteriorated by the brake fluid, it must be chem resistant enough while having the lowest contamination risk.


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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/13/16 3:13 PM

Quick scan of specs looks like 2475 is a little more heat resistant, but less chemical resistant.

Looks like my quick scan skills need more work.lol


Anyhow, I see the logic... Particularly since most are not likely changing fluid as often as is done on a race (only) bike. Give it a shot. YOLO... just keep an eye on it for "sweat".

I just picked up some clear fuel line from the auto parts store to replace the 2375 that went all limp noodle on me my last time out (it was freeking hot out!)... if it works, sweet... If not, I'm out a few bucks... literally.



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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/13/16 5:18 PM

So Dogo, do you think the rear master cylinder nipple is 9-10 mm? If it looks like the kit won't fit I'll probably just trim the factory hose and use the fancy cap that comes with the kit, hope its large enough to fill the old hose at least..
I know its easy to put together the pieces, but still nice to have an all in one kit (that hopefully fits). Seems like a lot of people use bolts and the factory hoses, but if the point is wait loss its nice to have a chemically resistant light plastic cap.
On my last bike I have two kinds of tygon tubing. The clear hose I used to mount a smaller reservoir with a little aluminum mount on the front master. It has worked well and doesn't seem to have changed consistency or sweated at all. On the back I used a yellow tube because it was a larger diameter. The rear rez seems to have sweated a little and doesn't look as good as when new. However the 10 had underseat exhaust that sits a few inches away from the rez, the heat might be partially to blame.



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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/13/16 5:49 PM

Starting @ 12 o'clock and going counter clockwise:

Honda cap
Zx14 (from '06) brake line
8mm tygon (post limp noodle)
Zx14 resi

Cap is gonna be loose on factory line, or tygon is gonna be a stretch on the MC... Sometimes it works just to spit on the tip, though.;)




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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/13/16 7:53 PM

I was thinking about placing a step-down on the MC fitting so the tygon tubing would fit. It doesn't look like it was stretched much in the pic above though. The problem seems yo be the heat from the exhaust melting the line. Dogo has a Hindle that looks just like a Brocks A-head. I bet any shorty will have the same effect.

Where abouta was the reservoir mounted? exhaust hanger bolt?


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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/13/16 8:21 PM

Sry Rook... on an r6 this season... stock exhaust... heat from cat, riding 40 min sesions (20 off then back out), and 100° weather all contributed to the excessive heat... actually melted the soles off of my boots that day too.



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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/13/16 8:23 PM

Totally forgot this site crops large photos... nonetheless, that's kinda cool. Ha!



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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/13/16 10:46 PM

That's extreme conditions, alright.



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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/14/16 7:10 AM

Great pics Dogo, thanks.
Hmm, Looks like I'll shoot for the tygon and a lot of spit. The double thick stock lines were too heavy anyway. Honestly it is nice to be able to easily check the fluid level in the tygon tubing though.



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RE: Rear Reservoir
06/14/16 1:08 PM

Great pics Dogo, thanks

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RE: Rear Reservoir
07/11/16 3:38 PM

The Honda kit does fit, although its tight.
Rear reservoir hose clamps, bolt and hose weigh about 218 grams.



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RE: Rear Reservoir
07/11/16 7:56 PM

Thanks, Cool. What diameter is the tube and is it log enough that you might be able to attach it to an external reservoir located below the bottom muffler hanger bolt?



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RE: Rear Reservoir
07/12/16 1:43 PM

The Honda racing part is almost as long as the stock rear hose to the reservoir (I think I ordered two feet just to have a little extra. Should be plenty of length to reach the passenger peg and muffler mount.
Hose is approximately 8mm id, and 11mm outside.


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