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Thread: F1 error code 46

Created on: 10/08/17 01:27 PM

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knovikov


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F1 error code 46
10/08/17 1:27 PM

Wanted to go for a ride, but my bike wouldn't let me. Did not start, even with starting fluid. So started checking plugs I changed out 3 months ago and they seemed good, but dry. Battery is brand new Battery Tender with plenty of juice.

With plug out, performed a test to see if it spark, but it failed and I did not smell any gas either. So started checking to see if anyone had a similar problem. Download service manual as well. Hooked up my display and checked on error codes and got 46 which is fuel pump relay stuck, it also provided steps to check it with multimeter. I connected battery to proper pins and heard a clicking sound, which it did not make while on the bike. Started to open the assembly and was ready to crack the motherboard, but decided to stick it back on the bike.

The spark came back and fuel injectors sprayed. So all is back to normal in Hazard county. Wanted to share this in case someone has similar problem. So, the relay was actually stuck, preventing spark and preventing fuel nozzle from opening. IDK, but glad the bike is running.



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RE: F1 error code 46
10/08/17 3:17 PM

Wierd, but thanks for posting.

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RE: F1 error code 46
10/08/17 3:59 PM

yeah that's a first. The test must have freed it up. Glad you got that one figured out.



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RE: F1 error code 46
10/08/17 4:15 PM

Could it be the no/low voltage to signal the relay on? They usually work or fail instead of intermittent. If it happens again I would be checking connections and crud for corrosion also.

Glad you solved it



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RE: F1 error code 46
10/08/17 7:57 PM

If it happens again I would be checking connections and crud for corrosion also.

Interesting...

One of the reasons I sign on to other websites is looking for these exact problems. The next is the 'why' it happens?
The trivia I come across when I read text books, shows me 'theory' and how it could backup this very thing. The example is watt E means. It goes right back to the basics. Magnetism is heat and a chemical reaction. So if you cannot separate the 3, but can find 1 variable to explain it:

Mag: Well, the battery says it's well charged and the AC out of the stator both function as per = Not it.
Heat: This is the same walk-thru as eliminating fuel/spark/or compression to make an engine run. = Not it.
ChemRe: Ding-Ding-Ding, we have a winner!

The next example is another basic diagnose you follow:

ECU: Say this is the main brain or one of 3 variables to chase.
Wire: This is the 2nd link to look for if we say our 3 variables are (1)Connector not connected. (2)Wire out of connector. Or (3)sensor is out of spec/short to ground. So we have 2 wire ends to show integrity from one end to the other.
Jobber: This is the sensor, light bulb, fuel pump assy, etc. Watt would cause the jobber not to work?

With these 4 sets of variables, we have to narrow down 1 between these 12 links:
1. Fuel = It has.
2. Spark = It has.
3. Compression = It has.
4. Connector = It's plugged in.
5. Wire out = It's not.
6. Jobber = It's not out of spec or shorted internally.
7. ECU = It's not coded so as to point to this.
8. Wire = It's not broken from one end to the other.
9. Jobber = It's not a broken bulb/sensor out of spec/shorted/etc.
10. Mag = It makes E when engine is spun/battery is new and well charged.
11. Heat = It has molecules banging each other so the jobbers function (current that is).
12. ChemRe = Ding-Ding-Ding, It's the only conclusion you can come to is poor flow from wire to jobber at either end or both ends.

You did nothing but unplug the "corrosion" at both/either ends, stopped short of dismantling the fuel pump or chasing a motherboard, but plugged it back in and it works... no parts/repairs needed. I could be wrong but that's watt I think.



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RE: F1 error code 46
10/14/17 7:53 PM

An update!
Firstly, thanks for all your input. My initial problem, was not fixed and the bike died on me a day later in my garage - no spark and no spray.

I decided to look at my tip over sensor so connected multi meter to test input voltage.
Values were too low, thus no sparky. Started moving some wires around and noticed values changing on multi meter. Narrow down to harness, so unwrapped tape in area around fuel tank and found 'man made' connections have deteriorated from moisture and broke off (my bike was purchased with some electrical modification which I have repaired - so I thought. Anyhow, once patched up, she fired right up.

That conundrum took me 4 days to solve, along with purchasing parts I did not need. And my skill level is low, but it kills me when ninja down.

In my next life, I will attempt to keep moto stock.



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RE: F1 error code 46
10/14/17 7:58 PM

In my next life, I will attempt to keep moto stock

If reincarnation is so you can better do what you did in your previous life, I doubt that very much, Nova.

Glad you got this figured out for real.



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Hub


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RE: F1 error code 46
10/15/17 12:09 AM

so unwrapped tape in area around fuel tank and found 'man made' connections have deteriorated from moisture and broke off

Previous man made connection was not mentioned = Ahhhh, close enough = #8, not #12.



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