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Created on: 03/07/12 06:11 AM

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And we thought the ZX14 was bad
03/07/12 6:11 AM

Subject: Acceleration---The Real Deal

For those who love numbers, engineers, speed freaks and those who think they have gone too fast at one time or another. This puts Corvette performance in perspective. This article mentions Lingenfelter twin turbo powered Z06.
Read this thru slowly and try to comprehend the amount of force produced in just under 4 seconds! The last paragraph puts it all into perspective !
There are no rockets or airplanes built by any government in the world that can accelerate from a standing start as fast as a Top Fuel Dragster or Funny Car…..and that includes any aircraft launched by a catapult from an aircraft carrier.
Nothingcan compare…..


DEFINITION OF ACCELERATION
One top fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows of stock cars at the Daytona 500.
It takes just 15/100ths (0.15) of a second for all 6,000+ horsepower (some believe 8,000 HP is more realistic - there are no dynamometers capable of measuring) of an NHRA Top Fuel dragster engine to reach the rear wheels.
Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.
A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.
With 3,000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.
Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.
At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture of nitro methane, the flame front temperature measures 7,050 deg F. (Oxy-acetylene on "cut" is 6,300)
Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.
Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during one pass. After halfway, the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1,400 deg F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.
If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.
In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph well before half-track, the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.
Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.
Top fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light! Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.
The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.
Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimate $1,000.00 per second.
The current top fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.428 seconds for the quarter mile (11/12/06, Tony Schumacher, at Pomona , CA ). The top speed record is 336.15 mph as measured over the last 66' of the run (05/25/05 Tony Schumacher, at Hebron , OH ).
Putting all of this into perspective:
You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter 'twin-turbo' powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a top fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start.
You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and pass the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that instant.
The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.
Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.
...... and that my friend, is ACCELERATION!

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RE: And we thought the ZX14 was bad
03/07/12 8:07 AM

And that my friend... Is thinking on your feet = 100 mph a second.



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RE: And we thought the ZX14 was bad
03/07/12 7:48 PM

Ah yes! My favorite of ALL racing!!



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RE: And we thought the ZX14 was bad
03/09/12 4:23 PM

I object to the 44 amps without knowing the tension (voltage) of the circuit.
Ive used MiG processes that consumed 700 amps at 45 volts (self shielded wire).
Ive used anti-welding processes (air-carbon arc) that consumed 1800 amps on a
40 volt line.

Long story short... spark plugs that have 44 amps available at a possible potential of
24,000 volts... very short life span.

Back me up here Grn!
You too Hubster!



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RE: And we thought the ZX14 was bad
03/09/12 4:30 PM

Okay... ive read a lil further. Evidently the plugs only live as far as the 1800' line.
But ive used more juice!! I swear!!
I wouldnt sh*t you. Youre my favorite t*rd!


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RE: And we thought the ZX14 was bad
03/09/12 8:03 PM

WATT are you asking me for? I've been building a wire harness from scratch for the last 3 days, now the bike has a short. I rigged up something direct to ground. I have current draw if I turn the key off. I'm blowing fuses. I'm not the one to ask. Ask bubble boy who welds underwater.



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RE: And we thought the ZX14 was bad
03/10/12 5:13 AM

He is busy out-running the man. And it seems you have your OHM problems right now.


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RE: And we thought the ZX14 was bad
03/17/12 7:45 AM

There's certainly no denying the performance of a top fuel dragster. I'm even more impressed with the ability to put that power to the ground and convert it to acceleration.

But honestly, a 8,000 horsepower racer that lasts a mere 7 seconds and revs for only 900 revolutions before it's life cycle ends is nothing like a heavy lift jet. Converting thrust to horsepower isn't really possible since they're two different measurements but based on performance data used for the Space Shuttle transport, the Boeing 747 with four Pratt & Whitney 4062 engines was doing the work of 87,325 horses. And the amazing part is that it could do it for over 7600 nautical miles in one fill-up. If you wanted to refuel in the air then you could essentially produce that power for years.



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RE: And we thought the ZX14 was bad
04/12/12 9:07 AM

Very cool, love watching drag racing. The thing that always makes me wonder most is how the drivers cope with that sudden accelerations G forces on their body. I would almost think it would feel like sitting on your bike stopped at a redlight, and getting rear ended by a car doing about 60kms/hr. It must physically hurt. I know when I got rear ended at a light it hurt a lot.



No officer, I am not riding too fast, I prefer to think of it as Flying low.

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