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Created on: 01/31/18 05:30 AM

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ironheadmike


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New shoes
01/31/18 5:30 AM

Exciting new development at my house yesterday-
SQUEEEEEE!



'12 Golden Blaze Green, pc5, at200, POD300, Brock's CT Single, Brocks clutch spring kit, Bazzaz QS4, Carrozerria wheels, Traxxion Dynamics revalve & spring of forks, Penske triple adjust rear shock, Vortex rearsets, Braketech Axis Iron 320mm front rotors, Brembo 24 Carat calipers from a '14 GSXR1000, Core Moto green braided steel brake and clutch lines,Brembo RCS19 frt master cyl, Saddlemen Tech style seat, hand made can backet for exhaust.

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RE: New shoes
01/31/18 7:05 AM

You'll love them! Better start a Pirelli savings account. They don't last long.

That mod list is growing. I see you have two HB undertail kits. Better take one off!!



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RE: New shoes
01/31/18 8:05 AM

ROOK!!!
Man you got an eye for weight savings! HAH
I am all over that like a cheap suit. Now that I am down to only one, I suppose I should get on with actually installing the damn sexy thing. I saw a kid at the gym with his plate mounted forward in the undertail area. He had it leaning bottom edge forward and I gotta say it looked pretty cool. Might try that along the way; (more centralized weight distribution. Perfect.) a few more mods to the Ironhead's Race Spec Tail Tidy and voila!


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'12 Golden Blaze Green, pc5, at200, POD300, Brock's CT Single, Brocks clutch spring kit, Bazzaz QS4, Carrozerria wheels, Traxxion Dynamics revalve & spring of forks, Penske triple adjust rear shock, Vortex rearsets, Braketech Axis Iron 320mm front rotors, Brembo 24 Carat calipers from a '14 GSXR1000, Core Moto green braided steel brake and clutch lines,Brembo RCS19 frt master cyl, Saddlemen Tech style seat, hand made can backet for exhaust.

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RE: New shoes
01/31/18 4:57 PM

I suppose I should get on with actually installing the damn sexy thing.

No rush. I don't run my BMC filter and it's listed in my signature. I might try it out again someday if I'm racing on a track but I don't think it makes enough difference to use all the time.

I saw a kid at the gym with his plate mounted forward in the undertail area.

I've seen that and it does look cool but I'll bet the smaller bikes have a bit more room under there with a higher rear suspension. IDK if you'll be able to take a stif bump especially with that undertail. It probably would not damage the plate but it could f up your sexy undertail. Quite a hassle to compress the rear shock all the way to measure clearance but that's the only sure way...or stick something under there like a couple chunks of foam insulation and see if that gets rubbed. That would be cool looking though. If the cops are tough by you, they might stop you for not properly displaying the plate though. I've had no problems running around with mods here or in Milwaukee. I doubt they will even bother about the NOS bottles....unless I get busted using them maybe....which aint gonna happen!


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RE: New shoes
01/31/18 7:18 PM

I've had no problems running around with mods here or in Milwaukee.
I assumed you had cool po po up there if you were running those SUPERBIKE slicks around town.
On matters such as your Cannon likely barking pretty loud; well plenty of the law dawgs 'round these parts are Harley types and many of the v-twin crowd is all about straight pipes and "loud pipes save lives" I am guessing the same is true even farther up the frozen North...? You might be spot on with the limited room thinking, the fella @ the gym was on a Cbrr 1000 and he did have the plate custom contoured as I recall. My ProBolt sickness rose up again today w a merciful sub $50 order. Sheesh, I need help. Big weekend coming with new seat, undertail install, suspension dialing, (thank you CRUDE), and spark plug swap. Should be super satisfying wrench fest!
I did secure a 5x8 single axle trailer that tips back- a long list of upgrades and the Pitbull trailer restraint await the final decking. Gonna take on fabbing a roll on chock for the front tire
With this as my model:


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'12 Golden Blaze Green, pc5, at200, POD300, Brock's CT Single, Brocks clutch spring kit, Bazzaz QS4, Carrozerria wheels, Traxxion Dynamics revalve & spring of forks, Penske triple adjust rear shock, Vortex rearsets, Braketech Axis Iron 320mm front rotors, Brembo 24 Carat calipers from a '14 GSXR1000, Core Moto green braided steel brake and clutch lines,Brembo RCS19 frt master cyl, Saddlemen Tech style seat, hand made can backet for exhaust.

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RE: New shoes
01/31/18 11:30 PM

I assumed you had cool po po up there if you were running those SUPERBIKE slicks around town.

I have nothing at all against the local po here. They A) let me go for just stopping after observing me hanging off at ~ 80 mph in a corner, B) wrote me a $10 ticket for doing 90 on a 50 mph road, C) did not pursue me after I passed them doing a hundred (same road) and was up to 130 when I saw them ahead. So the local cops are nice and I see many of them at school each morning but the truth is, I don't even think they would recognize a race slick from any other tire. Same goes for nitrous bottles. As long as I don't give them a reason to ask questions, I don't think they will bother about any of it. (knock on wood) The irony of al that is that I got arrested for driving my Carola without insurance about a month ago. No moving violation at all. A misdemeanor would most likely mark the end of Rook's public school teaching pursuits. More on that in the weeks to come. I'm expecting a break. Maybe an expensive one but if it keeps my record clean, I'll gladly pay.

Now Milwaukee, they have a lot more important things to worry about in town. I heard guys racing for literally hours one night. The expressway can be risky for cops just because of the speeds we can reach in short distances but they don't like to make traffic stops for normal fast like 70 mph. Too dangerous for everyone.

On matters such as your Cannon likely barking pretty loud; well plenty of the law dawgs 'round these parts are Harley types and many of the v-twin crowd is all about straight pipes and "loud pipes save lives" I am guessing the same is true even farther up the frozen North...?

LOL definitely in Milwaukee. Harly is located there, of course. I'm not sure what everyone around here thinks. Mostly a bunch of rednecks so I think they probably like it like I do! The neighbors are probably not crazy about it but I don't keep the bikes at the house much. The farmers probably don;t care much for it. I hear their cows stop milking when they get scared. I Try to respect that by not screaming past the cows although there is a great stretch right through a huge dairy farm. I did a tuning run or two down that one. Hope the cows didn't crap heir pants..

My ProBolt sickness rose up again today w a merciful sub $50 order. Sheesh, I need help.

I know, I know... I hear ya. Keep an eye on that order history and let me know when you cross the $1000 mark. LOL I have the weights of all my bolts. It will be interesting to see how much weight loss a grand in Pro-Bolts equates to.

Big weekend coming with new seat, undertail install, suspension dialing, (thank you CRUDE), and spark plug swap. Should be super satisfying wrench fest!

The stock spark plug tool works perfect for spark plugs. Somebody told me the Gen2 tool kit does not have it!!?? Heads up on that. IDK how you'd get them out of your gen2 because there's no other way to do it on the gen1. unless you could use two short extensions and a U-joint adapter?? IDK....spark plug sockets are pretty long all by themselves.

I did secure a 5x8 single axle trailer that tips back- a long list of upgrades and the Pitbull trailer restraint await the final decking. Gonna take on fabbing a roll on chock for the front tire

Very nice! I think a simple scoop contoured to the tire would work if you bolted it down with a 4 x 4 to each side of the front wheel. Better to be safe than sorry though and it's always nice to have cool stuff instead of a jerry-rig. That PB restraint would hold it on all by itself but I would hate to have the bike shift and the axle be cocked on that rod that goes through it. I'm seeing a PB trailer restraint or two in my future too. Also a trailer of course. Had a talk with a school in Bruce, WI today. No job offer but possible move about 90 minutes from the Minneapolis area. ..or somewhere in N/central Wisconsin where a job comes up...if I come through this no insurance deal without a record.


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RE: New shoes
02/01/18 11:39 AM

Rook!
Hey mister, where did you procure those aluminum sleeves used around the bolts on your muffler hanger?



'12 Golden Blaze Green, pc5, at200, POD300, Brock's CT Single, Brocks clutch spring kit, Bazzaz QS4, Carrozerria wheels, Traxxion Dynamics revalve & spring of forks, Penske triple adjust rear shock, Vortex rearsets, Braketech Axis Iron 320mm front rotors, Brembo 24 Carat calipers from a '14 GSXR1000, Core Moto green braided steel brake and clutch lines,Brembo RCS19 frt master cyl, Saddlemen Tech style seat, hand made can backet for exhaust.

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RE: New shoes
02/01/18 5:06 PM

Cone washer, M6

Clips, Rivets, Recepticles PRODUCT TYPE: Ancillary p. 2

Get those on the next Pro-Bolts order, I guess.



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RE: New shoes
02/01/18 5:17 PM

Hardware stores often carry aluminum tube where one diameter will slide into the next like a telescoping antenna. Buy a few diameters, cut to length and JB-Weld them together. No threads but that won't matter as long as the ID fits the bolt thread pretty close. Probably cheaper and easier and better to just order but if you are in a hurry, probably work just fine. The threaded collars work perfectly and no hassle. If you have an M8 tap, that might work too if you hold a piece of small aluminum pipe between two pieces of wood that have a hole drilled to fit the OD of the tube. Then, file and sand the OD down to whatever OD you need. Lots of work for something that's already done but again, if you don't want to wait two weeks...

Maybe you could call PB and ask to add to your order you just placed. I'v talked to the guy on the phone before.


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RE: New shoes
02/02/18 5:55 AM

Gen2 exhaust bracket mounts are m8. I went with countersunk washers on the left side and i cant run a cool washer on the bracket side as m8 washers wont fit in the bungs. Thats cool as the gold bolt inside the black bung works for me. Thank you for the alum sleeve link. Cant believe I hadnt seen those yet. Now the front caliper mount bolts in gold/ titanium/ race drilled/ 75mm long are about $20 ea! I am waiting to pull the trigger on these as the 320mm rotors might require an even longer bolt..? The bolts that came in the Brembo spacer kit are 75mm long but I assume those are meant to adapt the Brembo calipers to the stock 310mm rotors. We'll see soon enough.
On the spark plug tip- yep, my gen2 has no tool kit. Am looking at a cool Motion Pro spark plug socket.. looks extra long and hopefully its magnetic. Watched a youtube vid where a magnet looked like the hot ticket. What size is the zx14 plug? 18mm? Now the trailer quest; just bought this super simple/ light 5x8 tip back style trailer, now yesterday I bought an enclosed trailer body and frame only w/o axle. So, hopefully I can marry the two and have a real track day trailer setup! Not going to be the tip top dollar looking setup but hey, keeping the rocket safe and clean matters most. Fingers crossed. I am pulling for you on the ins ticket. Hope that works out well for you and the job quest. Have you heard of redbubble? A site that I bought all my vinyl stickers used on the chopper tanks. I mention it because the site appears to be a place where individual artists market their work. Might be interesting to look into how exactly it works. T-shirts, posters, stickers, etc. all I bought had credit to the artist that rendered the image...



'12 Golden Blaze Green, pc5, at200, POD300, Brock's CT Single, Brocks clutch spring kit, Bazzaz QS4, Carrozerria wheels, Traxxion Dynamics revalve & spring of forks, Penske triple adjust rear shock, Vortex rearsets, Braketech Axis Iron 320mm front rotors, Brembo 24 Carat calipers from a '14 GSXR1000, Core Moto green braided steel brake and clutch lines,Brembo RCS19 frt master cyl, Saddlemen Tech style seat, hand made can backet for exhaust.

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RE: New shoes
02/02/18 8:43 AM

I don't think I've ever touched the spark plug socket in my bike's toolkit, I just use the small spark plug socket in my regular toolkit with an extension for the ratchet, I think a 3" extension would be perfect. I slide the socket in first, then connect the extension to the socket that is already in the engine then pop the ratchet on and go to town.

After the plug is loose I remove the ratchet, then the extension then pull the socket out, grab my handy "mechanic's" magnet (see below) to pull the spark plug out. It sounds harder than it is and not sure what size the spark plug socket actually is, there are only 2 sizes in my kit that have fit every engine I have ever worked on.

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RE: New shoes
02/02/18 9:19 AM

This is what you want for the plugs.

Partzilla has for $18

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RE: New shoes
02/02/18 9:33 AM

Thanks Nightmare and Piken!! Yep I have a couple handy dandy magnets like that; rigid telescoping and a flexible job. Moving forward unafraid!



'12 Golden Blaze Green, pc5, at200, POD300, Brock's CT Single, Brocks clutch spring kit, Bazzaz QS4, Carrozerria wheels, Traxxion Dynamics revalve & spring of forks, Penske triple adjust rear shock, Vortex rearsets, Braketech Axis Iron 320mm front rotors, Brembo 24 Carat calipers from a '14 GSXR1000, Core Moto green braided steel brake and clutch lines,Brembo RCS19 frt master cyl, Saddlemen Tech style seat, hand made can backet for exhaust.

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RE: New shoes
02/02/18 4:00 PM

Gen2 exhaust bracket mounts are m8

OH--yeah. same for gen1. I will edit that.

I went with countersunk washers on the left side and i cant run a cool washer on the bracket side as m8 washers wont fit in the bungs.

Dont know about counter sink washers but you could put cone washers on the exhaust hanger bungs. They just have a flat back. They would not fit inside the bung unless you ground them down and that would probably not match up real well with the drill pattern of an M8 cone washer. A M6 cone washer drilled out to fit an M8 bolt might fit in the bung and if you want, stack flat washers to space it out so it is closer to flush with the bung.

Now the front caliper mount bolts in gold/ titanium/ race drilled/ 75mm long are about $20 ea! I am waiting to pull the trigger on these as the 320mm rotors might require an even longer bolt..? The bolts that came in the Brembo spacer kit are 75mm long but I assume those are meant to adapt the Brembo calipers to the stock 310mm rotors.

The stock bolts worked with 5 mm spacers required for 320mm rotors. I think I ordered the same length as stock in Ti in tapered head cap. I guess going 5 mm longer would be wise since they get torqued and you don't want to stretch the threads by torquing too few threads. There is probably at least 15 mm of thread that engages however so give or take 5 mm probably doesn't matter much.

What size is the zx14 plug?

I just measured a set of NGK CR9EIA-9. 15.94 mm across opposite flats. So 16 mm must be the size socket you want. Check fitment of that plug with the 14R. These plugs were given to me (by hagrid) I would assume he got me the right ones. They look correct to me.

After the plug is loose I remove the ratchet, then the extension then pull the socket out, grab my handy "mechanic's" magnet (see below) to pull the spark plug out.

Sounds like a good approach to remove but how the hell do you get the plug back in? I've heard of the old spark plug stuck in a booted wire trick but would prefer a spark plug socket that fits in there and can be turned with the fingers from the top of the hole. The tool piken is showing is the way I'd go.

Am looking at a cool Motion Pro spark plug socket.. looks extra long and hopefully its magnetic. Watched a youtube vid where a magnet looked like the hot ticket.

Extra long is not what you want for this. Think taking stick coils out. Remember how you can't get those out from under the air box unless you bend the rubber tip? Same for spark plug wrench. You need something that bends.

Magnetic doesn't matter. The rubber insert holds the plug. Now if you drop something in there, then a magnet tool is the thing to use or a grabber tool. I have a flexible shaft magnet tool that works well but the magnet is so strong it sticks to things I don't want it to.

Fingers crossed. I am pulling for you on the ins ticket. Hope that works out well for you and the job quest. Have you heard of redbubble?

Thanks, Mike. I'm pretty sure it will be ok.

I have heard of an organization like redbubble or maybe that was it I heard about a few years back. I've started looking at doing commissioned work through upwork and other online sites. You can almost bet there are mostly BS fees being offered. I saw some people offering $25-$50 on upwork and the sad reality of my former profession is that there are a lot of talented artists willing to work for that just to get paid something (and credit to the artist can be a sign that they got paid shite such as is usually the case with book and magazine publishing). No business person can last long like that but there is a steady stream of newbies. It's like the freshman girls waiting to spread their legs for the frat boys. Here today, gone tomorrow and another waiting to step up. I did it 11 years. I'd like to do it again but if I do, I'll only do it if it's profitable.


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RE: New shoes
02/03/18 1:13 PM

Yes, I believe I am using stock length Ti caliper bolts with the 5mm spacers.



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RE: New shoes
02/03/18 9:09 PM

Sweet pic! 40% lighter. LOVES me some Titanium! (other than that's about $80 worth of bolts in that pic, HAH)
Man I prefer the look of the tapered head as well. As opposed to the race drilled flanged head look. I am choosing the latter on fasteners where I see a track some day requiring safety wire. Yes I talked to PB guy the other day. Clearly he is a Brit or Limey of some sort. Noticed on their fb page (like the page and get more store credits) that the town was Tewkesbury or something near that. Has to be English, or Welsh. That would explain the shipping delay if shipping from across the pond. The zx14 listing in their bike selector is a zzx14 as well, Euro baby.
With the wheels and rotors coming, the next pb order will be those caliper and rotor bolts. Cha ching.



'12 Golden Blaze Green, pc5, at200, POD300, Brock's CT Single, Brocks clutch spring kit, Bazzaz QS4, Carrozerria wheels, Traxxion Dynamics revalve & spring of forks, Penske triple adjust rear shock, Vortex rearsets, Braketech Axis Iron 320mm front rotors, Brembo 24 Carat calipers from a '14 GSXR1000, Core Moto green braided steel brake and clutch lines,Brembo RCS19 frt master cyl, Saddlemen Tech style seat, hand made can backet for exhaust.

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RE: New shoes
02/03/18 10:03 PM

Thought these were cool.



'12 Golden Blaze Green, pc5, at200, POD300, Brock's CT Single, Brocks clutch spring kit, Bazzaz QS4, Carrozerria wheels, Traxxion Dynamics revalve & spring of forks, Penske triple adjust rear shock, Vortex rearsets, Braketech Axis Iron 320mm front rotors, Brembo 24 Carat calipers from a '14 GSXR1000, Core Moto green braided steel brake and clutch lines,Brembo RCS19 frt master cyl, Saddlemen Tech style seat, hand made can backet for exhaust.

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RE: New shoes
02/03/18 10:36 PM

yeah, I remember looking at those charts. I think I went with SC1 on both front and rear. If you ask me those charts are a little confusing. SC2 on the front is for hot and SC2 on the rear is for cold. I don't get it.



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RE: New shoes
02/04/18 1:31 AM

Right! Confuses me as well. I definately read some SBK or Moto GP RIDER set ups and they ran similar set ups.



'12 Golden Blaze Green, pc5, at200, POD300, Brock's CT Single, Brocks clutch spring kit, Bazzaz QS4, Carrozerria wheels, Traxxion Dynamics revalve & spring of forks, Penske triple adjust rear shock, Vortex rearsets, Braketech Axis Iron 320mm front rotors, Brembo 24 Carat calipers from a '14 GSXR1000, Core Moto green braided steel brake and clutch lines,Brembo RCS19 frt master cyl, Saddlemen Tech style seat, hand made can backet for exhaust.

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RE: New shoes
02/04/18 5:11 PM

WTF does the X axis mean?



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RE: New shoes
02/04/18 6:45 PM

Vertical is track temp, horizontal is bumpiness of the track. Again, confusion with the bumpiness factor on the SC2 front v rear.


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RE: New shoes
02/05/18 7:49 AM

And did I fail to mention this little gem?



'12 Golden Blaze Green, pc5, at200, POD300, Brock's CT Single, Brocks clutch spring kit, Bazzaz QS4, Carrozerria wheels, Traxxion Dynamics revalve & spring of forks, Penske triple adjust rear shock, Vortex rearsets, Braketech Axis Iron 320mm front rotors, Brembo 24 Carat calipers from a '14 GSXR1000, Core Moto green braided steel brake and clutch lines,Brembo RCS19 frt master cyl, Saddlemen Tech style seat, hand made can backet for exhaust.

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RE: New shoes
02/06/18 9:23 PM

WOW! NICE!! That IS a gem! I see a load of Ti bolts for that!

I plan to go with some aluminum bolts on my damper. In fact, I would probably go with aluminum on brake calipers since they are big bolts and mounted radially. Probably clipon and handlebar bolts too. Risky but I'd try it. Lower torque and check often.



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RE: New shoes
02/06/18 10:12 PM

Rookster, not sure you should swap the steel Caliper mounting bolts for AL. The entire braking load transfers through that bolted joint in a shear load. Al shear capability is significantly less than steel. I wouldn't risk that for that small weight savings unless you are replacing the AL bolts after each track or hard braking session. Maybe Titanium but not AL.

Stay safe UP brother



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RE: New shoes
02/06/18 11:31 PM

Yes, too late for me. My last order from ProBolt was the gold m10 x 75mm race drilled TITANIUM caliper bolts and the gold Ti rotor bolts for the Braketech Axis Iron 320mm rotors. I am just under $500 dollars down the rabbit hole.
Oy vey. I took those 3/4" bar risers off and am lowering the triple trees just a smidge this weekend.


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'12 Golden Blaze Green, pc5, at200, POD300, Brock's CT Single, Brocks clutch spring kit, Bazzaz QS4, Carrozerria wheels, Traxxion Dynamics revalve & spring of forks, Penske triple adjust rear shock, Vortex rearsets, Braketech Axis Iron 320mm front rotors, Brembo 24 Carat calipers from a '14 GSXR1000, Core Moto green braided steel brake and clutch lines,Brembo RCS19 frt master cyl, Saddlemen Tech style seat, hand made can backet for exhaust.

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