I luv this forum... If I was bookie, I would take bets to see who could purchase the fastest on 10.10.12....

IF my dealer gives me a loan....who knows?!!!!!(course,I gotta TELL him first)(If I know him...he's already got one on order for me )In fact...come Tuesday....he just might get a phone call...wouldn't want the WRONG color showin up now

* Last updated by: blue07 on 9/25/2011 @ 5:04 AM *

wouldn't want the WRONG color showin up now

hmmmm, and which color would that be? Flat Black looked Great in Photo.

If I was bookie, I would take bets to see who could purchase the fastest on 10.10.12....

Won't be nobody purchasing nothing on 10/10... but my $$$ would be on Steven to bring the first one home... but I'd also have to place a side bet on Hub.. he's being kinda silent and may be the dark horse... southern stealerships always take delivery first.

Man... you can buy anything @ Costco.

Remember (or at least I do) when that fireblade came out and spit some editor off some track? How many years ago was that? I said that was the kind of bike to own. Fast forward... What old fireblade bike won the IOM TT this year? Was it a 4 year old spitter? Or close to it.

Take RG and another spitter. Guys can't handle a 'top model' and cash is waiting for the next level. Save your bet. We are not even close to my kind of bike is that cash is waiting I be in my 70's it's waiting LOL

I need a real poop shooter in that 'mirror finish.'

* Last updated by: Hub on 9/25/2011 @ 11:20 AM *

I dunno, Hub... I have a feeling in my gut that you may be just trying to sway the odds... Then again, could be the burrito I had for lunch.

ARE you saying there was beer wheatoes on the track and he caught a hot 4-mm toe molly? Transmission? A cylinder lock up?

Oh boy! Rumorstarting!

WOT is that when they need to quill the firestorm? It's to counter the rumor mills. On the tip of my tongue....????

WOT is that when they need to quill the firestorm? It's to counter the rumor mills. On the tip of my tongue....????

We are not even close to my kind of bike is that cash is waiting I be in my 70's it's waiting LOL

I wonder if the makers of sportbikes are preparing for the day when the gas engine is no more. I think that will be about 10 years. In the mean time, why not develop the strongest gas engine that is possible? It could easily be necessary for a smooth transition to electric motors which are going to make max hp and torque at about any rpm.

It's all R&D Rook.They're tweakin this and changing that all the time.Nothing is staying the same.Had your 1199,then 1352,now your 1440.Gonna keep testing and modifying for the optimum package possible at a 'public acceptance price'.I think their main design drawback...at least for now,is the width of the motor.You know they can pack a lot of cc's into their V's.But that inline four...which is the best so far design for a sportbike(IMO)...at least,the narrowest(?)...that takes some doing.New materials for engine blocks and valves and stuff....as that progresses,the width is less of a problem.That is,they can pack more into the same space...as they've done with the 1440.This motor is only transitional.They're already planning and designing a bigger cc inline four.They have to see how this one does for a while so they can learn from it.It IS a nice piece of engineering.But not the final one.I can see a bored out stock motor from Kawasaki up in the future...something in the 1500 range easily.Even bigger.But they're gonna need lighter,stronger internals to get that done.Which are at this point...EXPENSIVE.You look at the 1352 engine...and earlier modern Kawasaki motors....VERY RELIABLE.Extremely reliable.They don't want to lose that by rushing something that hasn't had some real world time on it.The Kawasaki line of sportbike motors are probably the best in the world.Very well designed.To me..it's almost unbelievable that with 3 'sportbike' bikes I've owned,Kawasakis,Big ones....I NEVER had one single motor issue.Not one.Honestly.To me,that's just amazing when you consider all the different situations engine wise that I put em through.

Since I've been on this forum...several years now...I think the second biggest issue for Kawasaki has been the weight thing.They have an excellent package in the 10...from what I've read.I have a dealer only technical paper about the 10...given out only to the mechanics with Kawasaki.It details all the improvements and such with their latest 10.How to work on it...what the parts are and such.It's quite extreme.IF they could do the same things,with the same weight characteristics on the 14....as well as upping the displacement and all....that's what's gonna REALLY sell their bikes.But the torque and power of the bigger motor has to be able to be harnessed by the frame and such.They can't do that with a 10 frame so far on the 14.But I can see em doing it as lighter stronger frame components are invented.I think they're using in this new bike some seriously unique materials and all that the general public knows nothing about.I think as a performance(life and death)aircraft builder,they know what stressed members and such are all about.They know how to package a powerplant in a frame and have it withstand serious HP and torque.I think this new bike is gonna be VERY unique in it's performance.Very.

* Last updated by: blue07 on 9/25/2011 @ 4:31 PM *

Rook, back in 1983 we were spooked that gasoline would be gone in 10 yrs. It is TOTAL BS when you say that the internal combustion engine will cease in 10 yrs. There is no other power source sans nuclear energy that has as much power in one gallon of gasoline as gasoline, this party is FAR from over.

Like a Run Away Train. My Money on Bean

This is my honest opinion...
IF the vid is a fake, Kawi woulda kicked it off the web...
I'm just sayin

Like a Run Away Train. My Money on Bean

Just one thing left to consider.

US import law affecting motorcycles, and similar laws in some European countries.

Its not coming in the US with over 200 rwhp.

Will Guhl develop a re-flash like they did for the new ZX10R? Depends on if the 2012 ZX14R ECU is based on the ZX10R ECU (easiest way to get ABS and TC - much easier than using the C14 ECU which deals with variable intake timing and some other junk).

Privvy, are you mothering the world? YOu sound like a poli don't go there but stop the corruption period. Do not get involved with speed silly boy. Put a reign on spending is faster than any bike assholes! You brainwashedunce, Privvy. Be the one voting those that being the diaper pampering a grown adult you vote in a mommy to take care of your every move... You speed up to 186 faster than last year shut up! all ready! Pussy! Look at europe and the shit they let happen.

Hub, can you contribute to a conversation without a) dithering into incomprehensible gibberish and b) taking shots at people personally?

Back to my subject, which you responded to without responding at all, the US will not allow a bike to be imported with more than 200 rwhp. This is not my law, I didn't write it. I don't agree with it. But its something which needs to be considered while we dream of how great the ZX14R will be.

... the US will not allow a bike to be imported with more than 200 rwhp. This is not my law, I didn't write it. I don't agree with it. But its something which needs to be considered while we dream of how great the ZX14R will be.

Is that really law? I don't think it is. You can buy any make super car in the US, and they got shit now pushing 250+ MPH on a regular basis. The BMW s1000r isn't limited on power for the USA. Not sure why the new 10r was capped for the US.. but I am pretty sure it was not over horse power. If I had to guess, I'd say it was to meet emissions and and noise regulations.. and probably just California's newest crop of BS on noise. My 2 cents.

* Last updated by: motoCycho on 9/26/2011 @ 11:50 AM *

Well, you are correct, and not. The law does not prohibit it, it makes it progressively more expensive to import it. Kawasaki has traditionally chosen to stay just under the level where the cost penalties would kick in. As has Suzuki and Yamaha.

BMW doesn't sell enough of those to matter. But I bet you the EPA test bike didn't make more than 200 rwhp.

* Last updated by: privateer on 9/26/2011 @ 1:35 PM *

How's this for straight facts........ "the US will not allow a bike to be imported with more than 200 rwhp. This is not my law, I didn't write it. I don't agree with it. But its something which needs to be considered while we dream of how great the ZX14R will be."....followed by..."The law does not prohibit it",...Hmmmm...okay....which one ya want?Gotta LOVE this forum....so much information on here!

I'll take the 200 rwhp bike Privateer...you can have the prohibited one if ya like

* Last updated by: blue07 on 9/26/2011 @ 1:42 PM *

YOu better show all the dead 14 riders. So far, someone was cut off, the other hit rain, one went experimenting and how many died from top speed or lots of HP? The rule of engagement is to make the laws on the doorslammers.

Privvy, that was no offense to you personally... It is to anyone that brings up that shit and now applies; that it's valid in your world and not in ours. 200 hp is cat piss you look 20 years down the road how well this bike is a rail on wheels and you question the bullet train makers moving at 300 plus?

Cut me some cheese the place stinks of motherdumboyou gonna get hurt now in the mud... Don't lick your fingers scratching your ass motheringet a life! And you wish I addressed that shit to you personally, privvy, like the first post was [forescore and leave my ass alone] joe average voter the dummies that voted in your latest mess.

Boeing is behind schedule with the unionstart in wit me so help me I have to live amongst the 186 ears.

* Last updated by: Hub on 9/26/2011 @ 2:19 PM *

No you don't Hub....get a speedohealer....186 will be a thing of the past my man...OR....just wait till 10/10/11.Like me.(now,what was my tire dealer website again?)

* Last updated by: blue07 on 9/26/2011 @ 2:21 PM *

Back on topic;

If bore is 4mm more... Do we grow valve opening in proportion there of? Head is HP, not a bore job if see a 600cc is faster than some relic 900cc of old.