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Thread: Shorai Lithium Batteries?

Created on: 01/03/11 11:45 AM

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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/02/11 12:10 PM

Dogoz did you go with the 14A? I did but now I was reading about the 18A for 3oz more....Shit not sure if I did right or not.


I have the 18ah in my zx14 and an 14ah in my zx10r. Didn't start the zx14 this morning, just my 10r.


For a zx14, I'll take the extra 3ozs in exchange for the extra power. If I was using the bike for competition, I'd probably feel differently... now if you, by chance, do not hit 200mph... don't go blaming the batt.




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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/02/11 12:45 PM

Yea I agree with Dogo here, 18 amp-hour for the 14 is the way to go. 25 friggin degrees and she fired right up huh.....outstanding! Somefun, I don't think you'll have any problem with the 14 amp-hour on your 14 though, from Dogo's vid it sounded pretty strong and that was at 0 F. When it gets up to riding temps that thing will crank better than the stocker.



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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/02/11 1:02 PM

Yeah I hope so....I would have bought the 18 for the 3oz or what ever it is but they had said the 14A was the one for the ZX14 so go figure....



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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/02/11 3:39 PM

One more thought, as light as these batteries are, Velcro with the adhesive backing would stick one of these puppies down
There we go--stretch a short bungee on there with it, and that is pretty darn safe...Save the fillament tape for the bid ugly jobs. lol

Great Stuff? that was a novel idea but def over-thinking it. lol

Dogoz did you go with the 14A? I did but now I was reading about the 18A for 3oz more....Shit not sure if I did right or not.
I always have the same sort of conundrum. It is a battle to choose between race stuff and street stuff but I've found that it's either agonize about it now or regret later. Race stuff always is the way to go unless it's something that requires maintenance or replacing every 50 miles. Race tires-NO....non-O-ring chain...NO but I'm going with a 14A battery. I think you will be glad you did too, Somefun.


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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/02/11 4:44 PM

Yeah I hope so....I would have bought the 18 for the 3oz or what ever it is but they had said the 14A was the one for the ZX14 so go figure....


Oops, misread your other post... thought you ordered the 18ah. I'm sure you'll be fine with 14ah. The 14ah cranked my zx14 over just fine... frozen!



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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/02/11 5:18 PM

.Save the fillament tape for the bid ugly jobs. lol
Great Stuff? that was a novel idea but def over-thinking it. lol


My Batt now back on table, guess what I'm doing lol. Top tray no longer needed as the tape is a insulator. There is no lighter or stronger way that I can think of. I hope no one sees it. shhhhhh. Man is it ugly. If this bike gets totaled I'm sure that batt will still be in it's tray, lol

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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/02/11 5:24 PM

My Batt now back on table, guess what I'm doing lol. Top tray no longer needed as the tape is a insulator. There is no lighter or stronger way that I can think of. I hope no one sees it. shhhhhh. Man is it ugly. If this bike gets totaled I'm sure that batt will still be in it's tray, lol

What??? Just don't seem your style.

Maybe I should try the Great Stuff.



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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/03/11 11:34 AM

Romans, I hate to say it but I'm ashamed of you. I can see Rook doing a halfazzed install but we look up to you for doing everything with great style and panache....including a mundane battery installation. When warmer weather comes I expect a full factory looking redo with supporting pictures!


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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/03/11 11:45 AM

I can see Rook doing a halfazzed install but we look up to you for doing everything with great style and panache....including a mundane battery installation.

Now that we can shed half an ounce by omitting the cover, I'm starting to admire the tape method.
It's not crude; it's.....................
direct!

and can easily be converted back to stock.



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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/03/11 3:03 PM

Romans, I hate to say it but I'm ashamed of you. I can see Rook doing a halfazzed install but we look up to you for doing everything with great style and panache....including a mundane battery installation. When warmer weather comes I expect a full factory looking redo with supporting pictures!


ROFL, do not worry, I have not gone into the light. I will Never Ever become a butcher. I will have a proper tray by spring, but this was dame Easy and to hard to ignore so I talked myself into it. May even keep it.

Lets face it, what's the job of the Battery tray

Hold Battery solid in place; Done.

I also wanted to place the Batt as far back(was centered before)in the tray as possible so under hard starts there is Zero room to slam back; Done

Also needed more room 4 relays; Done.

Use the Lightest method me wee brain could think of; Done.

Ok, so it looks like a big marshmellow = So what. Can't believe I just said that. No one can see it right ?

You guys won't tell = All Good.

I was worried before, Not Now. Solid.


Now that we can shed half an ounce by omitting the cover, I'm starting to admire the tape method.
It's not crude; it's.....................
direct!

and can easily be converted back to stock.


Convert back in Minutes. No rocket science here, sometimes the simplest ways work the best. Any body can install Glass tape. Keep In Mind, Not All Glass Tape Is The Same.

Here the weight of what is no longer used. I lost track of how much foam was removed and how much it weighed.



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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/03/11 10:08 PM

Could that little bit of stuff possibly weigh almost a quarter pound?



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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/04/11 10:33 AM

I am waiting for a reply from Shorai. I just have to ask for their assurance that the smaller 14 amp battery they make will work with the ZX14.

That is the lightest battery that would work for me on the street.

Just curious---Any reason a 7 Ah would not work? 1.1 lbs!


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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/04/11 1:01 PM

Rook, it will most likely work (for awhile) but one shot at starting it is all you might get in really cold weather, I really advise against this. Hub, he's your boy, talk some sense into him! Also, remember as batteries age their amp-hour capacity goes down. A four year old lead acid with an original 14 amp-hour rating may be down to 5 or 6 amp-hours on that cold morning when it won't crank your bike. Ever notice how it's almost invariably on the coldest day of the winter when your car battery decides to die. It's no coincidence, with everything already working against a quick start, your battery is stressed to the maximum and if it's lost significant capacity.......click, click, click, click is all you get. There are better ways to lose three ounces IMHO, cut out those cheese doodles and Pepsi at lunch and you can trim way more than that.



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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/04/11 1:40 PM

Just curious---Any reason a 7 Ah would not work? 1.1 lbs!


Rook 5.0ah works. Ran it for a full year,,,, but,,,,,,,,,,, Don't do it. Lesson learned. Race bike different story.


but one shot at starting it is all you might get in really cold weather,

Kruz that number 1 is a huge #, to big infact Lol. I'll take 20 bucks on Zero @ 68F. Spending all that doe and needing a boost sucks. Ask me how I know.

Rook your buddies will be pissed when they have to push start the big girl.

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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/05/11 12:58 PM

Thought I might be pushing it but had to ask.

Glad I didn't have to ask the Shorai guy that. I'll stick with the small 14Ah. Still waiting to hear from Shorai to give me the final go ahead there.



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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/07/11 10:19 AM

.........................................................................and..............still.....


waiting.



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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/07/11 10:55 AM

Well I got my 14A in over the weekend….Installation went smooth as silk. I used the pads they provided as spacers in the base of the battery box. I cut them to fit real nice. The Battery was snug as a bug in the rug. Lol then I took the stock bunji and melted a bolt through the proper length for the new battery height. Once that was done I installed a stainless steel bolt through it with two washers and a nylon lock nut. This way when you pull the strap through the plastic battery box strap holder the two washers spread apart and holds tight on the thing and then you just slip the strap over the keep just like the stock set up. Worked out great! Hey one more thing I did was to make a stud for the positive terminal because I have some accessories on the bike and needed more threads than that little bolt they ship with it had. Hope this helps.
PS. The new battery is so short I decided to dump the stock lid and just kept the rubber boots on the positive and negative terminals. She cranked right up no issues……Let hope it stays like that! lol



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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/07/11 2:49 PM

melted a bolt through the proper length for the new battery height


The new battery is so short I decided to dump the stock lid and just kept the rubber boots on the positive and negative terminals. She cranked right up no issues……Let hope it stays like that! lol

Great thinking, Lots of room for extras now. Battery low in tray and back, sweet. Now enough room for a sneaky Pete, plus much more.

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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/07/11 2:52 PM

I'll stick with the small 14Ah. Still waiting to hear from Shorai to give me the final go ahead there.

Rook, batter up ?

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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/07/11 3:09 PM

Romans it worked great and looked like a stock set up....If someone does the same make sure you really heat up the bolt your going to burn through because if not it can tear the bunji. I had to heat it up twice because I couldn't keep it hot enough the first time...



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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/07/11 3:20 PM

Romans it worked great and looked like a stock set up

Did you manage to take any pics or get any weights ? I ended up with a weight 2.6lbs including ground cable and all hardware. It ended up lighter than my turntech with the custom tray if you can believe that. All good.

Love the stock set up idea.

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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/07/11 3:50 PM

Now enough room for a sneaky Pete, plus much more.

A Sneaky Pete is what?...NOS? A bit risky but there is something about nitrus that is really cool. I'd do it. A turbo would seem safer and I imagine produce hp improvement over a broader range of rpm but a nitrus system under the tail just looks plain mean. NO sneaky Pete for me. It would be out in the open to strike fear.

Rook, batter up ?

Still waiting................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Customer Support and Contact Us buttons don't seem to be getting the message to the right person because I have not heard a peep.



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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/07/11 6:43 PM

NO sneaky Pete for me. It would be out in the open to strike fear.

Not Legal for street use. Cops see it say bye bye to bike. Here any way.

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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/07/11 6:57 PM

heheheHEEEEEE! Well, I don't see any bikes on the street with nitrus bottles. Maybe that's why.

Got word from our Shorai dude. Same answer as before. "The weight difference between the Larger A1 and the Smaller Sized A2 is negated when extra foam padding is used to create a drop-in fit and is not recommended for this reason."

Still has not gone as far as to say "YES< the small 14Ah will work exactly the same as the larger 14Ah. I feel like I'm talking to a lawyer. But I'll wait another day and if I don't hear anything, I'll just order it.



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RE: Shorai Lithium Batteries?
02/07/11 7:08 PM

Small leaves lots of room, lol. I told you it was ugly but 2.6lbs including all hardware hard to beat.


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