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Created on: 07/27/10 07:23 AM

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RE: Speedohealer
04/18/11 5:46 AM

sounds right rook since their calculator says stock set up is -8% and that was right with the gps



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RE: Speedohealer
04/18/11 5:50 AM

my speedo seems to be running SLOW.

Seems ? This is the part that's throwing the Rook off ? Why 4 u think Slow ?

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RE: Speedohealer
04/18/11 6:39 AM

the bike would be traveling slower than the speedo is reading if on the neg. side, a stock bike at 100mph on speedo is only really traveling at 92 mph



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RE: Speedohealer
04/18/11 9:28 AM


Thanks, Rom. well, minus 11% sounds like the speedo will be reading 11% slower but that is all words. Who cares what it means as long as it does what it should do, right? The SH was very easy to set. Key on, Press both buttons to enter set mode, choose + or - then enter each digit of the calibration. - xx.x%. The unit flashes the calibration back at you every time you turn the ignition on.

the bike would be traveling slower than the speedo is reading if on the neg.

Tank ya Scotty. ...but if I were the designer of the SH, I would have called the calibration PLUS (not minus) if I were INCREASING the indicated speed by doing the recalibration. Then again, if I were the designer of the SH, a lot of things about my life would be different. Much more than the accuracy of my speedo, I can tell ya.

Have to get a GPS for perfect setting but the estimated setting should be close. I think I am pretty safe because the Healtech speedo correction is +5.5% and you guys are going with 7 or 8% with no correction for gearing. I still prolly have a couple percent higher reading than true GPS.


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RE: Speedohealer
04/18/11 10:00 AM

my speedo seems to be running SLOW.
Seems ? This is the part that's throwing the Rook off ? Why 4 u think Slow ?

My speedo was reading 20 following traffic in a 30mph zone. I did 40 indicated on the expressway where most people do 60. I was being really cautious, knowing that my speedo was way off. This ride was with 17/45 before I recalibrated.

Even considering that I was trying to stay moving slow, it seems like the speedo was indicating even slower. 20 mph is a snail's pace.

It was so late last night, I didn't want to road test the thing. No traffic to compare my speed with late at night. Today, we have snow. I hope it will dry up by evening.


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RE: Speedohealer
04/18/11 1:43 PM

Ahem..the stock speedoreading is about 5%...that's five percent off(faster)than the bike is actually moving.So.......entering a NEGATIVE percentage will...yup...you guessed it!Bring it back to "zero" offset .So if you're "bringing it back" to "zero" with a 5-7% negative setting,then changing your gearing is gonna offset it even more...so going even MORE negative is gonna line ya right in to a "zero" offset.-5% factory,-7%(or whatever)for gearing...there's your -12% setting.(or whatever the calibrator calls for).

The most accurate is with a GPS real time adjustment.(course,you guys know this).If you can't get a car to pace you...kinda hard to do...I tried..they can't figure out what the hell yer hand signals are!)you can always use the mile markers to get an accurate read of your real speed...then fine tune your healer to read correctly.60 mph....from mile marker whatever,to the next mile(count down 60 seconds between markers).Consistent speed,over three or four miles.It WILL be set correctly.

If you know your gearing at stock...and the factory offset,then set that in there...and go from there.If not,yer gonna be stopping frequently and reprogramming like crazy to get er close to what she needs to be.Every .#..(decimal) is like 2,3 mph.So it gets aggravating IF you don't get er close to begin your speed test and adjustment.AND,can take a while since ya gotta stop and recalibrate EVERY time.The mile marker trick works very well.If yer say,over by 3 or 4 mph,the healer needs to be adjusted by 4 or 5 decimals.NOT the first - number on the display.

You're looking for the ODOMETER to change to the next mile at the next marker consistently.Riding at 60 mph.The speed reading doesn't matter too much at this point...only the ODOMETER change.If it changes at one mile(60 second countdown between markers),your indicated speed SHOULD BE 60 mph.Doing the setting like this will not require any knowledge of what kind of gearing you have.It will be accurate for correct speedometer reads.

Actually,you don't need to do ANY counting...that's just how I did it...just watching when it changes to the next mile,then adjusting up or down will do the same thing.I THINK when I was reading a "faster" mile change,I added negative values into the healer.Pretty sure that's what I did.When you get er changing at every mile marker...your speedo will read 60 mph.

I just re-read this.You DO NOT need to watch your indicated speed at all.ONLY the change of the ODOMETER.5,280 ft is the same distance at 20mph as it is at 120.If she changes at every measured mile....the speedometer will be accurate at whatever speed it's showing.


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RE: Speedohealer
04/18/11 2:53 PM

.entering a NEGATIVE percentage will...yup...you guessed it!Bring it back to "zero" offset
all depends on whether you think of it as increasing the speedo reading or reducing the speedo error. (are you a "the glass is half full" or "the glass is half empty person. IDK--I give up. Speedo seems to be fairly norm now that I adjusted -11.0 as suggested by the website. i will checkagainst a GPS though.


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RE: Speedohealer
04/18/11 3:05 PM

Negative 11 sounds okay.Gotta say...with 16/43 gearing,my healer was set at around -12,-13 something.Back at stock...she's sittin right at -5.2.190/50 rear tire.


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RE: Speedohealer
04/18/11 3:07 PM

Rook you must think where the speed is being calculated from. If a true speed 100MPH is your constant the higher the ratio # the higher your speedo will read at the same constant. There for you must minus the difference from the total to bring speedo back to true. Lower the gear ratio and you must add. Think of you ten speed bike ?

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RE: Speedohealer
04/19/11 12:32 AM

For now, I'm just happy to be looking at a speedo that appears to be fairly accurate. I'll get a firm grasp on the math as I work with this stuff. Had some opportunities to do some half throttle sprints. Yeah, I'm scared now. I can't see going WOT in 1 and 2 gears al the way up into the higher revs. It feels like it will lift off too easy. Should be fun to try it out when I find a good spot. It is awfully hard to behave with all this power at my fingertips. but I have to be good. Going to get into a closed course training class or anything that will allow me to go as fast and as uninhibited as I can.



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RE: Speedohealer
04/19/11 1:32 AM

"Power is NOTHING without control".... (except it can be costly!)I ran that 16/42, and 16/43 for several times.Getting her to loft was at first dicey...but I kept trying.Soon it was easier to get the right rpms going to gas er and get er up.THEN....I returned to stock gearing.I have to say...lofting my bike has become a whole lot easier....much more than before when I had stock gearing.So what changed?What changed to me was the knowing that she would do this deal regardless of gearing...to a point.She lofts now JUST AS EASY as she did with the more aggressive gearing.And for the longest time,I "couldn't" get er to loft with stock gearing...it just didn't seem to be happening.Yet EVERYONE else was talking about how their (stock) 14's were wheelie crazy.I was like,"wth?"Not mine!

NOW...I have to be careful when I get er into the "loft area"....she just wants to keep climbing!Gotta learn how to use my rear brake to control the frontend lift while rolling.Hmmmm...Chopping the throttle isn't the best way to stop a 12 o'clock!


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RE: Speedohealer
04/19/11 2:17 AM

[Titstall about control you have nipple in hand dare, fella]Yet EVERYONE else was talking about how their (stock) 14's were wheelie crazy.I was like,"wth?"Not mine![/Said He]



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RE: Speedohealer
04/19/11 5:28 AM

Chopping the throttle isn't the best way to stop a 12 o'clock!

Neither is using the rear brake! Unless you use it in conjunction with some throttle. Personally, I think throttle is all that needs to be used to bring the bike down. But then again I don't do wheelies anymore because there just isn't an appropriate time or reason to perform one. Not to mention the toll you take on that front end!



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RE: Speedohealer
04/19/11 10:27 AM

Chopping the throttle isn't the best way to stop a 12 o'clock!

Naaaa, blip throttle, up shift. ROFL. You will love it. Babbbbbby steps.

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RE: Speedohealer
04/19/11 10:54 AM

Had some opportunities to do some half throttle sprints. Yeah, I'm scared now. I can't see going WOT in 1 and 2 gears al the way up into the higher revs.

Rook you spent all that doe on go fast parts to let her breath. Half throttle, whats up with that ? Break in is over. Pin it. Life on the 14 begins at 10,000rpm. She loves it up there. Pipes will sing sweeeeet music. Addictive. Or, wax and take it ease ? Naaa, pin it 1 to 4 LOL. Report back. Those gears are Awesome. You will see. Love it. Wish I could see the look on your face when you do,,,,,, now your really alive. Tell me I'm wrong ?

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RE: Speedohealer
04/20/11 12:00 AM

Half throttle, whats up with that ?

all in good time, Roms. Have to find the right time and the right place.


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RE: Speedohealer
04/20/11 3:27 AM

Now ya got me thinkin Romes.17/45 That means added links,yes?(just when I thought I was getting "nearer" to stock again...sheesh...thanks man).

"Blip the throttle,upshift" ....Aw geez....no friggin way.My bad bird would flip out baby!I aint goin there.Tell ya what...you shoot some vids of YOU "blippin the throttle,upshift" in a wheelie...and I'll do it!I'm tellin ya...when she starts comin up,there's a point where she just starts climbin like a madman...without adding any throttle.I can just imagine what upshifting and gassin her would do....sheeeit."and if I die before I wake,I pray the Lord my soul to take"......

Rookster...you have a cam..nice one....how bout YOU go first with Rome's suggestion.If you can do it...I can do it! The way mine lifts...I can leave the gearing as is for now .

Seriously...it's Rome's idea...we should let him demonstrate first...you know...kinda..."do the honors"....


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RE: Speedohealer
04/20/11 5:28 AM

how bout YOU go first with Rome's suggestion

ROFL, I'm having a hard time to get Rook over 5000 RPM. Don't think there be much Bilpping going on. lol.

Now, what about those 17/45 gears ?
You know, Roms......that ain't knocking my socks off either.


They soon will be Rofl. Seriously, Rook I know your going to love it. Just may take a bit of time. Makes the fourteen feel 50lbs lighter.


Now ya got me thinkin Romes.17/45 That means added links,yes?(just when I thought I was getting "nearer" to stock again...sheesh...thanks man).


Blue one of the last photos you posted had three or four sprockets on the garage floor. You must have tried close to the same Ratio ?

16/43 almost the same thing. Gear ratio 2.69 versus the 2.65 of the 17/45. You guys are running the bigger tire so we should we should be real close me tinks ?

I can just imagine what upshifting and gassin her would do.

Yikes, I never should have said the above. Please do not try if your not ready. Slipped out, my bad. Going to my room now.


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RE: Speedohealer
04/20/11 8:02 AM

Don't worry about me....I won't be imitatin an F-15 anytime soon!Ya...ran that 16/43...about the same ya say?Okay...then I DO have a pretty good idea of the pull.

You know...there ARE guys that upshift in a wheelie on the 14 all the time.All the way on up to like 150,170.Amazing...really.I'm pretty sure they're in England.At least everyone was talkin with that Brit accent.Pretty sure it was some of the riders for "Two Wheels Only" magazine.Nutso.

"please do not try if you're not ready"....LOL...and just HOW do you "get ready" to do the backflip on yer 14?This I gotta see


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RE: Speedohealer
04/20/11 8:20 AM

You know...there ARE guys that upshift in a wheelie on the 14 all the time.

The 14 will do it with ease. Hub had a picture posted here once showing the oil pick up tube. Not good for her.

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RE: Speedohealer
04/20/11 8:23 AM

Is there smoke coming from his right foot lol That pic is a keeper.

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RE: Speedohealer
04/20/11 3:36 PM

Rookster...you have a cam..nice one....how bout YOU go first with Rome's suggestion.If you can do it...I can do it! The way mine lifts...I can leave the gearing as is for now

A speedohealer is for correcting your speedo so you can abide by the law, of course.

I hear the popo are a lot more understanding out by you, blue.

I have that sneak video i shot got last year of that madman on my 14. I have chopped it all up into something a lot more viewable than the raw footage I showed last year. I even picked out a nice sound track to go with it. I will put that up some day soon. Looking at that vid now, i don't know how he got away with it. He could never muster the courage to shift up into 2 with the front lofted. 1st gear looks fast enough on 1 wheel.

......but as i said before, all in good time. There are a couple great tracks I could get to


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RE: Speedohealer
04/20/11 3:49 PM

They soon will be Rofl. Seriously, Rook I know your going to love it. Just may take a bit of time. Makes the fourteen feel 50lbs lighter.

"please do not try if you're not ready"..


The 14 will do it with ease. Hub
had a picture posted here once showing the oil pick up tube. Not good for her.

I wouldn't try it for an eighth mile or longer. One of the members who spun a bearing did it while standing up in third gear. He had video. Power wheelies for a 100 feet, ok. but that be as much as i would think prudent.


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RE: Speedohealer
04/20/11 4:49 PM

I think he swore it just "came apart" while riding(?)...albiet 100+ mph.Won't see me doin any serious lofting.Little lift here and there...just because.Blown engines are not my idea of having fun.


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RE: Speedohealer
04/20/11 9:40 PM

noooooo- The amazing thing is that I have not heard of anyone falling from a spun bearing on a 14 or a busa. They all seem to happen in straightline under a hard load.



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