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Thread: Gearing again!

Created on: 01/15/10 03:03 AM

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LAB3


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RE: Gearing again!
04/17/10 9:41 PM

I like your wheels they look Great.



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RE: Gearing again!
04/17/10 11:41 PM

Hey Rome-I probably asked ya this before-but what gearing would you compare your setup right now to.Can you give me a comparo of the 16/42....as opposed to the 17(?)/45 you're running now.Fuel and performance feelings.I'd really like to give that 17/45 a go...but I want to have my top end,and mileage,and possible low end torque if you're getting that.16/42 for me worked quite well-mileage and definitely acceleration.16/43 killed my fuel.And top end was gone.

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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 5:48 AM

romans i bet with that 45 tooth sprocket that front end gets awful light on ya at acceleration uh? lol



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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 5:57 AM

blue heres some good reading on the subject



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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 7:13 AM

Can you give me a comparo of the 16/42....as opposed to the 17(?)/45 you're running now.Fuel and performance feelings.I'd really like to give that 17/45 a go...but I want to have my top end,and mileage,and possible low end torque if you're getting that.16/42 for me worked quite well-mileage and definitely acceleration.16/43 killed my fuel.And top end was gone.


Great link scott. Blue, All I can do is repeat what others have said. Here are the main two reasons I only use the 17 Front.

A front sprocket with fewer teeth works the chain harder and robs power, as the chain has to curl more to match the smaller diameter.

One thing to watch is clearance between the swingarm and chain. Smaller sprockets can result in the chain laying on the swingarm, and actually working the suspension when power is applied.

As for fuel mileage, I would think you might see a slight improvement just because of how smooth the 17/45 is. Blue, as you know I run Ivans full set up. I have no fuel cut and my timing map looks like a down hill ski slope. If anything I would have to say my mileage is not great that's for sure but I don't really check.

With a friends zx-14, the 16/43 was installed. Afterwards I ran the bike up in second gear and then kicked the bike in neutral and hit the kill switch thus allowing the bike to coast to a stop on it's own. This told me all I need to know.

The 45 tooth Vortex would not fit on my new rims that is the only reason(plus wanted Black)I have switched to the Driven name brand that is installed now. Guys, it's a great, ratio just not for touring

Blue the way you go through gears,,,,,, Lol, TRY IT you will be glad you did. Cheers.

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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 8:12 AM

I like your wheels they look Great.

Thanks Lab, made a big difference in how the suspension works. Turning is wow as well. Love them. Only 75 miles with them on.

45 tooth sprocket that front end gets awful light on ya at acceleration uh? lol


Lots of fun. The light weight rim on the front was also a eye opener. Smiles inside the helmet.

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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 8:19 AM

I am running a Ivans map too. Friend has a Yosh TRC and we installed his map, works Great and Smooth.
I was looking at your wheels and worried about how the hold up if you hit a pot hole in the road??



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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 8:28 AM

I was looking at your wheels and worried about how the hold up if you hit a pot hole in the road??

Ya, that was my first worry. I have read that subject to death(made my brain hurt). Then I bought the rims. The benefits out weigh all my concerns. I have no plans on being gentle on them, of that you can be sure, and I will post any flaws.

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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 10:14 AM

Rims look great,I'm still waiting on mine,I'm trying to sort out my on /off throttle at the moment.If I cant get it sorted,I wont be shy about asking you to test ride and give an opinion


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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 10:37 AM

416-577-0333. I'm at 9th and 407, easy to get here 15 min on 407. I'm not sure I can help, but would be happy to try.

I find myself staring your Avatar way to long,,,,,aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 11:04 AM

Is this better?



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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 11:09 AM

LMAO, That does it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Time to pull the goalie.

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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 1:28 PM

I'd buy a Triumph is a second if those two come with it :-)

Louis



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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 1:39 PM

Ya...thanks Rome and Scott....How's that 45 do with vibration.Does your bike feel "factory"?I'm runnin stock right now-very smooth.Yes-beautiful wheels Rome.SHWEEET!

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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 3:26 PM

How's that 45 do with vibration.Does your bike feel "factory"

Better than Factory. The chain is Higher up off the swing arm. Quiet. Zero Vibs.

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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 3:33 PM

Did you need to extend your chain?By how much?Top end?Still there?

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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 4:24 PM

Did you need to extend your chain?

I installed a new chain after I went to the 17/44 set up. 2 weeks later 17/45, same chain.

Top end?

I'm not sure. Hits the limiter with Eze. I was going to set the speedo healer down low and place the GPS back on the bike but never got around to it. Thats a ride that requires some warm pavement. Still cold here.

Still there?

I guess we will have to find out. I read some where in the Brock Diaries what gear Brock was using for top speed runs at 200 mph, but I can't remember.

Blue I'm curious now, what speed have you reached with 16/42 ?

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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 4:51 PM

Well Rome...she topped out at 182.Speedohealed.11,300 rpms-close to that.Wasn't hitting the limiter.Had er GPS for that gearing-so I know it was accurate.She just wouldn't get any higher.But I'm pretty sure she had some left-not much,but some.I asked about your chain...you got a new one...how many links for your 17/45?

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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 5:38 PM

Here is a pic of my buddies 16/42 Vortex Gear. I plan to see how my 17/45 does against it. Roll on's of course Lol.


Look at the little sleeper he snuck in on the bottom. GGGGGrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I'll Get Him.

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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 6:22 PM

I asked about your chain...you got a new one...how many links for your 17/45?


Blue I just went and counted. 118. If I was going to install again I would go a bit longer. At the time my thinking was I was going to go back and forth between 44 and 45 rear. With 118 link chain this is possible. Prob is that I never went back to the 44. The 45 is my fav. Stock chain you can go 41,42,43. Mine is set to go 44,45,46. So before you cut the chain give that some thought. I hope this helps. Cheers.

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RE: Gearing again!
04/18/10 7:24 PM

I read some where in the Brock Diaries what gear Brock was using for top speed runs at 200 mph,

brocks suggest a 40 tooth rear sprocket and ceramic bearings if wanting to hit 200mph in a mile



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RE: Gearing again!
04/19/10 12:39 AM

Okay-thanks Rome and Scott.Me thinks 17/45 will be next.17/40?HHHMMMMMmmmm... 200mph?mmmmmm... ...just once....just once.40 tooth...I could get one o' those right pronto!!!!Use my stock chain on that baby.


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RE: Gearing again!
04/19/10 9:18 AM

Nice boots <grin>... -bg

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RE: Gearing again!
04/19/10 4:47 PM

Nice boots <grin>... -bg


Wow your right, Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh starrrrrrrrrrring at photo again. Bg, how could you, LOL

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RE: Gearing again!
04/21/10 8:41 AM

if anyone is looking for the big sprockets i seen on ebay you can get them from 40 to 51 tooth . if you search zx14 in parts they r on page 16



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