I think deep down Hub is still considering a Porsche!!!

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I think deep down Hub is still considering a Porsche!!!

I could see the Hub driving a Hellcat or maybe a Dodge Viper, American muscle cars...

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I think any of the aforementioned rides would suit Hub well but I really see him driving something outrageously exotic. Maybe a Bugatti? Definitely not a Tesla though.

Reminds me of this video I came across yesterday. I'm surprised at the results. The Tesla is the farthest to the left I believe. I would have bet on the F1 car.

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Guys, I'm here sitting with 'cash waiting' to pull the trigger on the 1390, but can't convince the dealer principal to sell me one in a crate and fuck anyone riding it around the block. Unfortunately my fat ass is too wide for a Porsche. Exercise, eat right... Not in the cards. Head hair grazing the roof liner, have to sink the neck to bring the windshield back up. Felt semi-claustrophobic sitting in it. That goes away, butt the rest?

Went to the Chevy dealer for filters for the truck, walked in the showroom, saw a vet with a 90k sticker not their over 100k and in gray. Sort of been there done that and was too paranoid to take the one I had out as if it was a daily driver.

The shop has a 1390 now and when I went back to close the deal, the owner was out for lunch. I gave them a round number and said backtrack it for out the door at this price. Then I said call me when you get one in the crate. Salesman said the owner will test ride it if that works for you.

So here I wait. Salesman gets the GM to talk to me. I tell him why no test ride, then he tells me a story of a mechanic test riding a new bike. The owner of the bike went to lunch so it would be prepped to be picked up later. Sees his bike go past on the back wheel having lunch at the restaurant. New owner tells the salesman he's not buying the bike witnessing that.

Shit, back in the day it was practically every bike. What sticks most is I did a 600 mile service on the new busa when it first came out. Hammered it, grabbed the front break hard [my first] and the rear end came up. Hell, I'd run a black engine 750F to 100mph, bite down on the front brakes quick and hard till the tire made it squeak, or turned the bars and let go of the brake. Dropped 9mph is the recall. Maybe did that about 18 times is the memory. Gave the bike back with both fork seals leaking. The wild things we got away with.

So it's don't hold your breath you waiting for something happening soon. For me, I fall into the camp of good things come is wait month. Every month I sweep the ktm site waiting for a 1390 field problem to popup. Next month is waiting to hear a call for a crate to come in. Following month we hear rumor of putting the 14 to bed, spin me a SC big bore ripper.

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Kruz, when I was on the ktm site, I asked a guy that bought one how he compared the 1390 from all his other bikes? He was giving it praise over the bikes he's owned. He came back with some mighty nice hardware and said it out torqued his duc. That canceled the duc for me.

No, no Kruz, the ape was a sweet bike, just was not impressed with the wire harness connector hardware for that price. Might be the same on your ape now. Connectors like you'd see used in a computer tower. That's the only beef and that's nothing really.

Rook, send in the url with no brackets. Says adobe flash no longer supported. Surprise Rook! Electric car for sure. The King Of Torque.

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Rook, send in the url with no brackets. Says adobe flash no longer supported.

WHAT? I can see the video embedded on my screen. You guys can't? LOL maybe it's because I still have Adobe Flash Player. I don't know how to get rid of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srJZnNkipBE&t=1s

As far as getting a bike in a crate, I wanted the same thing. I can assemble a bike from a crate myself and I can prep the bike myself. I would prefer to be the only rider too although I don't mind if they whooped it's ass a little for ten miles before selling it to me. In addition to being a partially disassembled bike, the sales guy told me there can be crate damage which is something only a dealership can warranty out. Also, not doing dealer prep sets the deadlership up for liability. They won't sell a crated bike and probably most others won't either. I have heard about people buying crated bikes but I've never been told how this was possible.

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Well, I can get 9yrs out of a wet battery. Dealer prep only will last 5 or 6yrs. 10 miles of revving past the limit of 4000 rpm is going to ruin the wall finish. No thanks.

* Last updated by: Hub on 6/10/2024 @ 12:00 AM *

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Well, I can get 9yrs out of a wet battery. Dealer prep only will last 5 or 6yrs.

My dealer installed battery from my busa hasn't been run in 3 years but it's been on a maintainer the whole time. I never tested it but it was cranking just fine after ten years. It's 13 years old now. I want to replace it with a lithium but a part of me wants to see how long it will go.

10 miles of revving past the limit of 4000 rpm is going to ruin the wall finish. No thanks.

If by "wall finish" you mean the honing, Motoman claims the honing is gone after 20 miles. After it's gone, there is no way to seal those rings. I told my salesperson the guy who does the test ride should get on that MFer and ride. The radial burs of rubber from the tire mold don't look a lot different on the center of the rear wheel than they do at the outer edges of the tread. I'd say whoever test rode it went easy on it.

I'd like to do the Motoman break in on the new 14R as I did on my Hayabusa. I don't know what to expect from the 14R compared to my Gen1. Will it wheelie in third gear at at 100% throttle from 3000 rpm to redline? I don't want to wheelie this bike yet. Being similar to the Gen1, I'd expect to hit at least 130 mph at 11,000 rpm and I'm not ready for that after my three year layoff. I wouldn't think of trying that in second gear. Still gonna be triple digits and it might just wheelie. First gear, no question, it will wheelie before redline and it would just be way to harsh. 5th or 6th gear, I'm not doing those speeds but those would be the ideal gears to use for a high rpm break in.

* Last updated by: Rook on 6/10/2024 @ 5:50 AM *

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Well Rook, explain to me how there is a wear factor with engines lasting over 100k miles and you want to believe at 20 miles it's worn down that fast. The point is the crosshatch holds oil in the scratches. Where the wipe rolls over the grooves, closes that gap to fill oil on the surface, and rather burns it off every power stroke. It's so subtle you don't see the smoke. That's my theory and probably wrong.

You then need to explain how I've gone thru 4 bikes, 2 were cough, motoman'd, 2 with the limit of rpms by the book. Both booked never ate up oil, but the hard break in did.

Not only that, the GM said some off the wall statement about the technology being advanced it didn't matter. I called him out before he finished his statement. On the dyno at the factory was more a short blip that hardly starts in as a wear pattern of a few seconds. They go thru the gears and pretty much the bike is sent to the crate.

True, my buddy builds race engines, sends it on the dyno and hardly revs to reline. He heat cycles them. Has the same bore finish as used today. Only thing I found was the rings were at .009" on assembly, and when it was freshened up, the gap was at 012". We started up his fleet of parked race bikes ready to sell, and not one puffed a bellow of smoke, nor any kind of smoke sitting for that long.

You also have to remember, it's running practice an race hours, but the oil is changed a lot so you can't see a loss of oil, But at under 3000mi. intervals it exposed itself to me.

I've come up with 3 variables of ring position. 1) I read where it said the ring floats in the groove when under pressure, 2) The ring is hugging the top of the groove being on the way down under the power stroke. 3) The ring s cocked at a slant because of the piston's cocked due to skirt angle to the one side.

Floor is yours.

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All I can say is my 08 ZX-14 was broken in very gently. The compression was barely meeting spec at 50,000 miles. There was that scoring in camshaft towers. It leaked from the head cover gasket which I fixed but That bike still used some oil after that from what I saw in the sight glass. The oil has always been very black when I changed it.

My Hayabusa was broken in strictly according to the Motoman procedure. Oil changed immediately after. I haven't tested compression on it yet nor have I inspected any internal parts but it had no oil leaks at all. The Hayabusa doesn't use a drop of oil and the oil is golden brown when I change it. Neither smoked but the soot at the end of the Hayabusa's pipe is less than the 14s was.

I only have two bikes to compare and they're two different bikes. Also, I haven't had the opportunity to observe as many situations that would provide signs of engine wear on the Hayabusa. What I do see however, are only signs of a healthy engine. No problems with the busa at 16,000 miles. It was exposed to nine high rpm runs at 03 miles on the odo including redlined three times.

Could it be a difference in the engine designs between the two manufacturers? The Hayabusa responds well to a high rpm break in and the 14 doesn't? You can't do a high rpm break in on a S1000 RR if you wanted to. I wouldn't say that bike lacks power.

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I vote Hub gets a new KTM 1390 Superduke, King of Torque and with handles to match!

Hub Wrote:

No, no Kruz, the ape was a sweet bike, just was not impressed with the wire harness connector hardware for that price. Might be the same on your ape now. Connectors like you'd see used in a computer tower. That's the only beef and that's nothing really.

They've come a long way Hub, Aprilia connectors now have a Japanese quality look and feel and the bikes are gorgeous, my two favorites now in the looks department are the RS660 and RSV4. RS660 does not seem to be using any oil but I broke it in hard, RSV4 EZ break in and burns oil like a '48 Studebaker. Go figure!

* Last updated by: Kruz on 6/15/2024 @ 3:06 PM *

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I vote, H2 for Hub.

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This F@%&* dealer principal is buying out dealers in 3 counties so far. I have to sit down with him and sell myself and make him relax about being sued for a bike he did not build, design, etc. He'll never see me again till I buy the next yahoo.

I've got a few dealers that will work with me, but they are kind of far away. Can't convince the fucker here, I'm off to the next dealer and work with them if this deal falls thru.

Na Rook, I think Grn said the H2 signs off and the 14 kicks in. Probably sell the ST to make room for the next bike. Neighbor across the street who moved away comes back every few months because his wife still has relatives here. He's got a low mile HD that was given to him from some family member, but this generation is the new engine family called a twinkie after they fazed out the evo. Bad design on the cam chain tensioner setup, but upgraded so it's repairable.

Going to talk to him and see if he wants to sell it at my price. Told him to buy the update kit so all I have to do is install it and blowout the fuse it's on now. He doesn't ride it much since he moved. Funny, buy the nephew has the evo with a remote oil filter setup that uses steel tubes that go up the housing. They are notorious for leaking. Bought a set of replacement seals, fucker leaked still. Got a brainstorm while texting him, tried the idea and stopped the leak. Then the other tube started leaking.

Went over his place yesterday, broke the seal on the one pipe to get at the other nut that holds the tube in place. Now it's sitting for the glue to dry up and will call me on the test ride come Monday. His bike is bulletproof so I have no fear about the HD product.

Might jump on that HD for the rest of the year and wait to see what kawi comes out with. Any 1390's that are leftover I'll pop for one unless they update the 1390 with some extra electronics. But it's got the duc, and yammie covered with axis, electronic suspension, shifting, etc.

Going to 49 Stud the break in...

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If you get a new bike, make sure you show pics! I might buy a cruiser someday. There's other sport bikes I need first though once I figure out how to scratch my fast riding itch again.

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