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Created on: 12/03/09 04:49 PM

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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/02/10 12:43 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_britain_livingstone_letter

This is rich with history. Here comes, Revv'inn Wright, pack em inn. Here is Jesse Jackasson, are The Son's OF...

...And then you read where livingstone bumped into the packing ship ready to sail for the UAS, say muzzy, while you are such humanitarians to other humans, slave trade me a piece of history about bring that cult forward is backwards are their children Laughing at your ass is now!

I love dishit!



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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/02/10 6:30 PM

Whats the old saying , History Repeats itself.
All historical records are tainted by the person that wrote it, you can't tell a story without influencing the facts.
History is a guide, everyone sells there own bottle of snake oil full of truths, tales and group think .

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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/03/10 1:54 AM

If history repeats itself, the facts are false with crapthing, but the history stays the same. What, dear tell, has the slave trade, drug tread changed players? I think the crap against humanity was just the other day were the finger pointers of history, were trying to point their way out of that crime against his own brothers was point that finger at the west. As if America was ever discovered they were at each others throats.

Now, how can that history repeat itself, your peeps were not slaughtering those inhabitants. Sounds like indians still had their land. No one was pointing fingers at them from the other side of the world, [if they only knew].

And that cult is creeping in with daddy creeping at night to kill his daughter., She showed her legs and defiled the family? But it was OK for his cousin first remove from harvesting opium to selling infidels in Dufart? Excuse me.



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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/03/10 7:16 PM

If you look at any of the early explorers, there history of achievement is full of bits and pieces that would be lock you up and through away the key time, in today's judgement system. The British were probably the worst in there colonial past , rape, murder, cannibalism, steeling food provisions, rob indigenous people of there lands, culture etc

But they are heroes in the name of King and Country, you did that today you would be the scum of the earth and be locked up if your lucky.

If you get to wright history, you can tell the story with your own happy ending, you get to decide who the villans are the victims and the Heroes.

Today the story is the same , were still doing the same shit just different players, writers. so in away history repeats

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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/08/10 4:19 PM

Click Here & Breathe Deep At The END


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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/09/10 3:37 AM

If they build that thing, it will be to honour there own dead. the ones who flew thoes planes, it be a symbol of Islams success against the USA and Christianity, forever for the hole world to see.

makes me feel sad thinking about it.

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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/10/10 9:06 AM

Religion at its best.

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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/20/10 12:36 AM

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=181405 Unemployment checks no longer flow but flow out to these shit bags? Is there change or the same chump change going on? Worse thing you can to is stop islam, not start it up with their own laws.

Did england introduce shitrat laws? There you go, you gave up your laws for their laws and who wins is not you, you ass of the hole bunch of administrations is this one is ticking down. I hope America loved their prez for 4 years is 4 more!

I don't blame obama. The public did not see it and now eat it is your chad hanging!



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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/20/10 12:40 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahiliyyah



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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/21/10 12:55 PM

So you guys are pissed because someone is building a mosque near ground zero yet there are several strip clubs and porn shops that are located even closer to ground zero. Get over it folks trust me when I tell you that we have much bigger fish to fry in this country. How about 10% unemployment, rampant government corruption on all levels and across all parties, destruction of the environment, we don't manufacture a damn thing anymore, foreign governments are buying our highways, we are involved in two wars that have gained us noting and costing us billions, police departments closing down because we can’t pay them etc……….. Once again Religion has managed to cloud people minds and distract them from what’s really happening around them. The fact that we are no longer the smartest, most productive country in the world is what should concern you not the location of buildings.


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07/21/10 4:28 PM

"the quran teaches that if the Muslim population is being a part of the greater population(infidels,AMERICANS),they are to outwardly smile and act as friends.Inwardly,they are to curse them".Sound like a good thing to have our enemies building a place of hate where they can plan their next attack from?.Not important?Just look at the funding sources from which this thing will be built.And the ones funding it and promoting it.Friends of the United States?I think Micheal Jackson said it best..."makes no difference if you're black or white"....ya....black flesh or white flesh will cut and bleed the same with the sword sharpened.Global supremacy....that's the plan."Allah's will".Not important?That means...if at all possible....ALL non muslim people will be wiped off the earth.THAT's the goal.It will never be "not important" to freedom loving people everywhere.We will not forget 9/11...and the message that was clearly sent.They live for the day they could witness nationwide 9/11's....including your family Willi.The "other stuff" will straighten itself out as this administration is replaced by those who REALLY understand the deal here.Course,your kids are probably still gonna have to pay for the folly of "spending their way out of debt"policies for God knows how long.Barney Franks and the rest of the crooks on the hill won't be worried though....they grabbed their shares with the "transparent" stimulus package funds.I'm a bit pissed about the Mosque....but MORE concerned about the strategy behind it.There's much more going on with the logistics of that thing,and what it means to the Muslim people than just a "building to pray in".Believe that.If you or your family would have been at ground zero that day...ya think "they" would have just turned the planes around cause you "sympathize" with em.It aint about hating Muslims.It's about protecting our cherished way of life...as imperfect as it is.And I don't know who has classed the US as second rate in anything.Obviously they've been following the administration again...judging "us"(the United States)as ignorant as the present administration.

And just for the heck of it...it was OUR technology that allowed the Middle Eastern countries,Saudi Arabia in particular,to be able to recover their vast wealth from the sand.And ENJOY the opportunity to be able to stop living in 10th century conditions.I didn't hear em complaining about that.And as always...the United States has been in the forefront of world advancement and seeking to help others in virtually every field of endeavor possible.While our President goes about "apologizing" for us "proud,arrogant" numbskulls in the US,the world asks and receives our blessings every day.Just as GOD intended it to be.

Something wrong with our philosophy and way of life here?I'm not seein it.The porn dealers and such will have to give an account....that's on them.But that's a far cry from planning the destruction of America and the American spirit.

Last time I checked..ALL the munitions that are being used to murder MUSLIMS are coming from Iran,China and the Soviet union.Car bombs,IED's,AK's...who's being murdered?MUSLIMS.Who's doing that?......MUSLIMS.This aint about American power...this is about Muslim domination over "whoever".They can't even accept their own.Shite against Sunni...and for what?Tell me that's America's fault.These countries are begging us to stay behind the scenes.Scared to death that when we split they get to deal with their OWN loving household."You cannot serve two masters"...."you will either love the one,or hate the other"...a double minded man(or people)is unstable in ALL his ways".Welcome to ISLAM my friend.Religion of hate.


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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/21/10 6:07 PM

Wild, I must admit I am surprised at your point of view. I think you have missed the point here.

It's rude to dance on the graves of the innocent.

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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/22/10 12:37 AM

Some people don't consider "non-combatants" "innocent".Any excuse to shed blood is all they need(or create).If it wasn't for our forefathers and they that shed their own blood for MY freedom,I wouldn't be able to enjoy taking my bike out....passing through states,enjoying the good things God has made without being jailed or worse and having to confirm my religious status at the "checkpoints".Fear of being shot as I rode away.Shariah law...something lovely and peaceful?Yeah,I'm gonna defend the US against all enemies,foreign or domestic.It's my duty and honor to those who have died to keep us free.And anyone who doesn't think that our way of life is something the world has benefited from,they've been living in the closet all their lives.Or the 10th century.Mosque at ground zero?WRONG,just wrong.And any feeling Muslim would agree on that.No more than we'd go over to Hiroshima and build a church at the blast epicenter.Or Nagasaki.Even the Japanese had class and left Pearl Harbor alone after that horrific slaughter.I don't have to become a Buddist to enjoy and appreciate the Japanese people.No more than Muslims have to kill every non-Muslim to feel okay with God.Just a reason to support a murderous heart.Evil needs no excuse.It fulfills it's own ends and desires by continuing with evil.Call it what you will....Islam is a religion of destruction,not building.Of hate,not love of GOD.Otherwise,they'd get it together and start helping their brothers and sisters around the world by funding rebuilding projects and joining those that desire to help and improve the Middle Eastern condition.While they blame it all on the US,and our friends,they themselves spend their GNP on weapons to murder each other.Sweet.Real class act there.

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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/22/10 2:44 AM

willidx4, I agree with you on most of what you said, But it isn't just a symbol of a mosque and religion, it would be a symbol past achievement.
More that just a gold roof, a gold medal for the sworn enemies of the USA and the West. It would do nothing to unite Islam and Christianity , it would inspire future acts or blood shed and the next generation of murders to come.

Many countries lost people in those towers, and many of the same countries have lost soldiers in 2 wars supporting this fight, Australia one of them.
Although we will never be asked our opinion, Australians would find it an insult for murders of our innocent to be glorified with a mosque, . Build it somewhere else it dosn't need to be built there.


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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/22/10 5:19 AM

Look what the Muslims are doing on a DAILY BASIS to the Christians who are only believing in their Lord and Savior.Murdering them,that's what.There's no Christian people going about killing Muslims.Or persecuting them for their faith.Or throwing them out in the street.Anyone show me this.Somalia.Congo.Yemen.Iran.Syria.China.Venezuela.These great examples of "Allah's will"....killing Christians right and left.While Muslims enjoy the graciousness of their "host" countries,they plan their destruction and overthrow.They want to keep women "covered up"....so the men won't lust after em.What a crock.Whatever you do,if you're a Muslim "man",don't take responsibility for your OWN thoughts and life.Blame your weaknesses on someone else ALWAYS.It is the will of Allah.And don't forget...every good Muslim will kill SOMEONE(you need just accuse your victim of being heretical,or better yet,an INFIDEL) before going to meet your very own harem of VIRGINS.And have SEX SEX SEX all day and night throughout eternity.(you won't be concerned any more with those tempting "Western" porn shops and all).It is the will of Allah that you do nothing to better yourself,but that you consciously and vehemently blame others for your irresponsibility in regards to treating others with fairness and respect.While whipping your most cherished(?) "possession",your Woman,for desiring to "unveil herself" in the "living" room.Why can't we dumb infidels get it?You know,Allah's will.I mean really,it's so simple.Just do EVERYTHING I tell you to do because I said so.It doesn't need to be right,or fair,or caring.It just needs to be MY WAY.It is the will of Allah after all.

Here's a nice little tidbit that has gone unnoticed for,well,however long.Their Quran teaches that not only are they to smile and act friendly towards those "in power" while inwardly cursing them,but they are now allowed to DO some of those "ungodly" things that "mark" Westerners...so they can get the inside track.Talk about "having it all".Here's the contrast.Jesus said "be NOT partakers of other people's sins".John said..."be ye seperate,come out from among them"."That others may SEE your GOOD WORKS and glorify your Father in Heaven"....nowhere does Jesus or the apostles condone or suggest the KILLING of unbelievers.Or mistreatment of those who choose to believe differently.Yet "our" Judeo-Christian values are what makes us "the GREAT SATAN" to the Muslim world.Is it just me,or..........anyone else see anything wrong with this picture?"For God is not the author of confusion"."for where there is confusion,there is sin and every evil work"


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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/27/10 4:48 PM

Funny spin on things by the Germans

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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/27/10 5:09 PM

That's GREAT! -bg

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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/27/10 5:13 PM

Ya, I thought we needed a little humor.

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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/27/10 10:22 PM

Wouldn't THAT be great!!

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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/31/10 5:08 PM


THE STORIES BELOW ARE 2 OF THE SADDEST SIGHTS YOU'LL EVER SEE. AS SAD AS THE FIRST ONE IS,

MANY PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW THAT IT GOES ON. EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW, BUT THE MEDIA DO NOT REPORT EVENTS SUCH AS THIS ONE.

1. Mass Muslim Marriage in Gaza

Poor kids - what a terrible fate to be born as a girl in a Muslim country

HAMAS PLAYS HOST TO PEDOPHILIA

Muhammed married a six year old bride. But Islam has evolved in 1500 years. In Hamas land, in 2009, the brides are almost seven.


Mass Muslim Marriage in Gaza
450 Grooms Wed GIRLS Under Ten In Gaza
by Paul L. Williams, Ph.D.
thelastcrusade.org

A gala event has occurred in Gaza.

Hamas sponsored a mass wedding for four hundred and fifty couples.
Most of the grooms were in their mid to late twenties; most of brides were under ten.

Muslim dignitaries including Mahmud Zahar, a leader of Hamas, were on hand to congratulate the
couples who took part in the carefully staged celebration.

We are saying to the world and to America that you cannot deny us joy and happiness, Zahar told the grooms, all of whom were dressed in identical black suits and hailed from the nearby Jabalia refugee camp.

Each groom received a gift of 500 dollars from Hamas.

The pre-pubescent girls, dressed in white gowns and adorned with garish make-up, received bridal bouquets.

We are presenting this wedding as a gift to our people who stood firm in the face of the siege and the war, local Hamas strongman Ibrahim Salaf said in a speech.

The wedding photos tell the rest of the sordid tale.

The International Center for Research on Women now estimates that there are 51 million child brides now living on planet earth and almost all in Muslim countries.

Twenty-nine percent of these child brides are regularly beaten and molested by their husbands in Egypt; twenty six percent receive similar abuse in Jordan.

Every year, three million Muslim girls are subjected to genital mutilation, according to UNICEF. This practice has now been outlawed in many parts of America.

The Islamic practice of pedophilia dates back to the prophet Muhammad, who amassed eleven wives and many concubines after the death of his first wife Khadijah in 619 A.D.

After Muhammad's elderly wife, Khadijah, died in 619 A.D., he amassed eleven wives.
He arranged the visits to the tents of his women around their menstrual cycles. His capacity for sexual congress seemed to be boundless. Sahih Bukhari, one of the most revered Islamic texts, recounts: The Prophet used to visit his wives in a round, during the day and night, and they were eleven in number. I asked Anas, Had the Prophet the strength for it? Anas replied, We used to say that the Prophet had the [sexual] stamina
of thirty [men].[1]

For in-between treats, the Prophet kept a stable of concubines, including Reihana, his Jewish captive. His wives and mistresses were compelled by Islamic law to satisfy his sexual needs at any time of the day or night, and the Prophet reserved the right to enjoy them from the top of their heads to the bottom of their feet. [2]

This might not appear shocking to students of the Kinsey Report, except for the caseof Aisha, Muhammad's favourite wife. Aisha was the daughter of Abu Bakr, the Prophet's closest friend and most faithful follower. As soon as Muhammad laid eyes on Aisha, he came to fantasize having sex with her. There was a problem with this fantasy.
Aisha, at that time, was a small child of four or five, while Muhammad was a middle-aged man of fifty.[3]

Still and all, the Prophet wasted no time in making his fantasy a reality. When Aisha turned six, Muhammad asked Abu Bakr for his daughter's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr thought that such a union would be improper... not because Aisha was a mere child but rather because he considered himself Muhammad's brother. The Prophet quickly brushed aside this objection by saying that the union was perfectly right in the eyes of Allah. Abu Bakr consented.
And Muhammad took the little girl as his new bride.

When they were married, Muhammad, in his mercy, permitted Aisha to take her toys, including her dolls,
to their new tent.[4] The marriage was consummated when Aisha was nine, and the Prophet fifty-three.[5]
The three year waiting period was not caused by Muhammad's concern of sexually molesting a child but rather by the fact that Aisha contracted a skin disease which caused her to lose her hair.[6]

Pedophilia was not only practiced by Muhammad but is also sanctioned by the Quran.

In its discussion of the waiting period required to determine if a wife is pregnant before divorce, the sacred text says if you are in doubt concerning those of your wives who have ceased menstruating, know that their waiting period shall be three months. The same shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated (65:4).

Those who think that modern Muslims have abandoned this teaching should study the pictures that accompany this article and recall the words of Ayatollah Khomeini, the most famous Islamic cleric of the 20th Century:
A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate;
sodomizing the child is OK. If a man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives.
The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister. . . It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband's house rather than her father's house.
Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven.[7]

[1] Sahih Bukhari, 1:268, translated by M. Mushin Khan, Muslim Student Association, The University of Southern California, 2001, http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/

[2] Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, pp. 525-526.

[3] Sahih Bukhari, 5: 235.

[4] Ibid., 8:151, 5:234.

[5] Ibid, 5:62, 63.

[6] Ibid, 8:151.

[7] Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, Tahrirolvasyleh, volume 4 (Gom, Iran: Darol Elm, 1990), p. 186.








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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
07/31/10 6:49 PM

The more I learn the more sickened I become. I hope that's all media BS. Say it isn't so ?

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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
08/01/10 9:36 AM

I think it's probably for real Rome.If only the rest of the world was seeing this.And where IS the rest of the world on this?Amazingly silent.

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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
08/02/10 5:14 PM

Makes me sick

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RE: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS?
08/03/10 1:00 AM

looks like it's not true.

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/mass-muslim-marriage.shtml



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08/03/10 1:24 AM

and just who is "hoaxslayer?"anyone know this person personally?The world continues to shield Muslims from the atrocities they perpetrate.I say again...look at the latest in the violent world of "jihad"(which actually is SUPPOSED to be "internal conflict").Who's dying from that...Westerners?Not.Muslims,that's who.Such blatant hypocrisy from people who claim to know"God"....is it any wonder things are the way they are?"There will come a time when evil is called 'good',and good 'evil'"...welcome to prophesy of the Living God.The TRUE GOD.The one who told us about all of this trash ahead of time.You'll notice Hamas had to pay for the people to participate.Real genuineness there I'll say.And oh of course...had to drag the US and Israel into it and blame us (again) for their "lot in life".I suppose we put a gun to their heads (again) and told em to fire those kitusha rockets over the border just the last couple of days.Surely they've got some pictures of that somewhere,yes.Americans like us holding 45's to the terrorists heads?If they want to have peace and a future...quit screwing around and get real.Stop the violence around the world.Become part of the solution.The world would embrace them(Muslims)if they weren't dead set on destroying everything that aint ISLAM.Geez...how hard is that to see.Surely there are some Muslims out there that are willing to say"enough is enough"....somewhere?Anywhere?Bin Laden....can you hear me now?You're NOT punishing the West ya jerk.Yer cutting yer own throat,and the REAL innocents out there....the Muslim young generations that're being denied a real life...and the rest of the innocents.Some God ya got there...hates his own people.Nice.


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