Romes as I have always spoke highly of you, your work and who you are, I just want to remind you that cbast is a veteran and a Marine recognized for distinguished service. He has stepped into the line of fire to provide security and patronage to the USA. C is also Canadian born. Before we call him evil, let's remember I have the luxury of knowing freedom because of individuals like him. I respect you too Romes, but as a point of clarification let's observe that behind these keyboards, both you and him are real people and deserving of respect.

If there just wasn't the damn money thing involved....then we could flash these things and have some clear discussion of what is doing what...without harming anyone's reputation or possible 'business'.I feared this would happen at the get go....hopefully we can get past the 'who's is better' mindset...and share without the 'I'm number one' stuff.I feel somewhat responsible for how the conversations have gone....I tried to be honest and without bias when I reviewed the two flashes.I was unbiased...totally.Both of you guys are my friends.I hope(still).

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 11/27/2013 @ 12:37 PM *

Green this has nothing to do with you or me! It's between C and Romes. It's not just money its the seat time and cost associated with research and development. It's about access to software and hardware. All of that involves cash and so, to recoup the flashes cost what they cost. I plan to be professional and neutral if I am asked to review. I would give these flashes to beast and I and we could ride them both and post impartial reviews. Beast has the same wild ride ethic I do. That is one way to solve this. Beast we use your bike or mine and spend a day reviewing. I bring my C ecu and you bring Romes. Never the two shall mix. Both men's work secure. That's what I call an approach to settle this.

* Last updated by: Wolfman on 11/27/2013 @ 12:53 PM *

All I can add to this No More Insults and Name Calling This belittles us all, from that point no one here can learn anything. Name calling even when I disagree has never been my way. Most cases I keep my mouth shut as not to hurt others but this guy just won't stop dogging. It has to stop. But you I both know it won't, not his way.

Green this has nothing to do with you or me! It's between C and Romes. It's not just money its the seat time and cost associated with research and development. It's about access to software and hardware. All of that involves cash and so, to recoup the flashes cost what they cost. I plan to be professional and neutral if I am asked to review. I would give these flashes to beast and I and we could ride them both and post impartial reviews. Beast has the same wild ride ethic I do. That is one way to solve this. Beast we use your bike or mine and spend a day reviewing. I bring my C ecu and you bring Romes. Never the two shall mix. Both men's work secure. That's what I call an approach to settle this.

That sounds like an excellent plan! Yes! Perfect. I trust not only your impartiality but also Beast's. Beast and I have had opposing points of view, and he is always straight up. I know he would be honest if my flash was not up to snuff. So I say YES!

That sounds like an excellent plan! Yes! Perfect. I trust not only your impartiality but also Beast's. Beast and I have had opposing points of view, and he is always straight up. I know he would be honest if my flash was not up to snuff. So I say YES!

Perfect C' This crap makes us both like Ass Holes. I hate it.

I know it's not about me and you Wolf.Name calling...now I can relate to that;)Romes...you know MY issues with a certain feller here....quite a while back....it only stopped when I said it stopped...'for me'.It's a forum...not the be all,end all of everything.There's lots of truth in what another member said here....skill...balls....how far ya wanna push your flashed bike?To me....mine may be as far as I dare...to another...it might feel like child's play.Most of you guys here have railed at the track...on the street....pushing,pushing.God knows my bike is WAY beyond any limit I could put it through....hell...I'm as 'unskilled' at riding a sportbike as they come.I'm definitely lucky...tell ya that.Wonder I haven't killed myself by now....sometimes I don't think I have any business riding a bike like this...seriously.But it's the ONE thing I have for 'myself'....I just need to be more damn careful....that's no shit right there;)

But if that report doesn't satisfy the muddled language of the call out, I know it won't be long before I show up in TDOT in person. I am definitely down for any sort of dispute to be settled man to man as well. On bike. Off bike. Whatever works. I am not 'from', a military family. I built one. Things that I stand for don't include being called 'evil' by a man that has never served. We will stand face to face. We can sort that one out on that day. Until then I think Wolf and Beast can rip the heck out of it and provide honest feedback.

I agree both Beast and I will provide honest feedback. I trust Beast and my insights. Perhaps we should start a collection plate for the tires we will burn through that day! Lol!

I'm game .... all in!
C - I will be completely honest and upfront with the review... no BS
If that means your flash out performs Romans, then so be it.

I'm getting my girl ready as we speak for this main event......

This makes us both look like assholes

I don't understand. This will provide our membership with the technical ride commentary they need to make an informed choice. I am lost, I thought you might appreciate the inclusion of Beast for impartiality???

This puts the flashes where your mouth is. With winter we might have to wait till March giving Beast and I adequate time to prepare, go pro and ready conditions to run bikes. I thought you (Romes) would appreciate this?

Beast it will be an honour to sort this out with you my brotha!!!

I think what he's saying wolf is that bickering back and forth "makes them both look like assholes"

I'm pulling my PCV out in a week or two... don't need that extra dead weight..... lol

Oh ok Beast! Sorry Romes!

We will grab a GO PRO Hero for official roll on comparo's and accompanying video analysis
Been talking about it anyways

I love the avi Beast!

On a side note, best buy has the go pro hero 3+ black for $250 right now and Black Friday ...

And I yours brother....

oooo sweet, nice find cara - I'm on it.... is that an internet, or store only price?

Thanks Cara!!!!!!!
W

Here the hero 3 black is 449.99

Fazon Jon just texted me a brilliant idea....
Let's rent the 1/4 for the event......
thoughts?
make a wicked day out of it.

Things that I stand for don't include being called 'evil' by a man that has never served. We will stand face to face. We can sort that one out on that day. Until then I think Wolf and Beast can rip the heck out of it and provide honest feedback.

Had to add a hidden threat, couldn't just be nice.

This makes us both look like assholes

Was about name calling and insults, it makes us look

Name calling...now I can relate to that;)Romes... ..it only stopped when I said it stopped...'for me'.It's a forum...not the be all,end all of everything.

Your wise beyond your years. We all want the same thing for these bikes. We all should have it. Opinions will always vary. So what ?
Nothing in life is that important.

Isn't it SVJon now, lol?