I have not really been interested in TRE's in the past because of the issue of not showing correct gear selection information.
I've never been a fan of improving one aspect of something at the cost of another.

But I was talking to a pretty experienced guy today who said the new smart TRE's now allow the stock gearshift indicators to work correctly.

Now from memory, TRE's are not that much of an advantage if your secondary flies have already been removed.
But again this guy advised that the new TRE's will unleash any factory restrictions set on the bike while still allowing the custom dyno map through the PCIII I have to work in unison with it.

Has anyone heard of these new upgraded units and have any feedback on any of this?

* Last updated by: yannih on 11/30/2014 @ 2:49 AM *

I would say....if your secondaries are gone...and you bike's been dyno tuned and all without those in there...why bother.I've never heard of a TRE being able to disable a top speed limiter,or allow for an increased RPM limit....could be wrong....if all it does is trick the ECU into using a 6th gear fuel mapping...probably won't be effective with your setup...you have no secondaries to affect anything.Your dyno tune has already 'bypassed' any restriction that might be there.Unless the TRE also affects the ignition timing...does it?I installed a Brock's manual timing wheel on my 07...set to 4 degrees advance...noticeable change in engine response.IDK IF this advance would affect the Dyno settings....I mean...needing to possibly remap again for the advanced timing in all gears and rpms.Maybe....

On a side note....Healtech makes a speedo healer for your bike.Version 4.This unit WILL allow for the top speed limiter to be disabled...well...changed.I found on my 07...setting the Speedo Healer to the website's values for the 07...it corrected the speedometer nicely...and ALSO raised the limiter(well,it 'tricked' the ECU into thinking it wasn't at that rpm when it actually was).Since the factory speedo settings are like...5% off....that allowed that 5% to be actually pushed up farther...so it limited at a 5% higher rpm value.If you were to do a LSR run or something...you would need to raise that percentage up....but very easy...the V4 is a really easy to use unit...very simple install...and discreet.No wire cutting...no 'under seat' placement.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 11/30/2014 @ 6:50 AM *

From a thread I posted last summer:

Me:

I think the only reason for the Kawi programmed timing retard at low to mid range in gears 1-4 is so that the bike has less power where the gearing is most aggressive. It's a safety feature that you can't shut off..which is why I don't want it!

Romans:
Timing and What's In The ECU Explained
Rook, Timing is the same is all gears, always was. All reports we were told of timing being retarded in the bottom end gears were lies. The Want to believe was strong, so we did. TRE was born. Yes we could feel something, but that was flies opening sooner, nothing else.
Timing maps from 2006,07 were changed in the 08 to 2011. They were slightly more aggressive from 2600 to 3600 RPM in attempts to fix that bottom end hole we all complained of. Still nothing much. Some of us spent hundreds of hours trying to fix that hole with fueling. I could never get it quite right, only now I know why ugh !
In the present time We now know Kawi uses the secondary throttle plates ONLY to restrict air in gear grouping. Goes as follows 1&2 is one group 3&4 second Group 5&6 having the most aggressive fly opening. This is in bikes 2006 to 2011. This should now give you a clear understanding of what the TRE really does. With today's tech False claims of timing changes go out the window. Yep once again, there is no such thing as Santa Clause booooo.
The 14R is different. We have three timing maps along With High and low hp modes. One would think low power mode pulls timing but the Fact is there is No timing map for low power mode. What we have is One timing map for Full and Low power. Second for our beloved Safety Mode that this bike kicks into when launched to hard. Third is a very aggressive Neutral Map. In Neutral Timing here is pushed up a whopping 10 degrees. So when you see guys revving the piss out of there bikes in Neutral,,,, maybe not the best idea. So why have it? My guess is, this map allows bike to run cooler when idling. In long periods of heavy traffic I go for Neutral. My brain tells me this helps but I have not spent the time to prove this in exact time and temp #'s but it's a safe bet. Testing to prove exactly is needed Hub ?
The 14R has grouping of the throttle plate Maps too but this is Not done in the gear grouping. Rather it's done in the different modes. It's Full power has one fly opening map for all gears 1-6. Low power has one fly opening map for gears 1-6 And last but not least our beloved Safety map, same in gears 1-6.
Hope this info clears up any misunderstanding that some may have due to claims made in the past. Cheers

A flash will optimize your timing and do a lot of other cool stuff. I've decided to forget about all the old tricks that were selling years back and go with a flash.

* Last updated by: Rook on 11/30/2014 @ 7:10 AM *