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Created on: 03/05/15 03:46 AM

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Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/05/15 3:46 AM

Well it looks like they are finally letting the magazine guys test the H2 & H2R.....from what I read both bike are sick fast.....they said the H2 slows a little at about 180 but that would be fix by Don's flash I'm sure.....now I'm getting excited. They said riding the super charged motor is an all new deal for sure. Can't wait.....


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/05/15 3:56 AM

Go the H2!
Sounds like a much better result than one particular competitor brand.

They recently had press and magazine guys test the new R1 in Australia and 5 blew up in one day!
They had a second day of testing planned that was not surprisingly cancelled.

Scary stuff for Yamaha...


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/05/15 7:26 AM

There's a test report of the H2/R due in next weeks MCN. Track tests are all very well but a real road test is what we want to see and will be a better evaluation. Apparently, according to the mag, Kawasaki have applied for several 'trademarks' like Ninja R2/R, S2/R, E2/R etc so could be, as many suspected, that more SC'd models are on the way.
Not very good news for Yamaha on the R1 front if the blow ups are true! The new R1 has borrowed heavily from MotoGP tech and taken superbikes to a new level though, the R1M being built primarily for track use with the basics fitted for use on the road. Michael Dunlop is on one at the TT which will be the ultimate test of reliability. JMO

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/05/15 8:27 AM

"After months of hype and build-up the H2 matches and maybe even surpasses all of it" says Adam. "It’s truly immense, and in third and fourth gear the bike just wants to take off. It’s incredible in terms of acceleration but it also stops and handles way better than you might expect.

“The traction control works really well and I have been riding with it set quite low and this has meant the bike has been several inches out of line all the way through three gears with the rear wheel spinning. In top gear it slows down a little bit but it’s still as fast as a Kawasaki ZX-10R and is pulling 180mph at the end of the straight.

“And that's just the road bike version –


'slowing down a little bit'...this will be corrected with the Guhl flash...it's the throttles closing down.Fully adjustable through the ECU programming;)


Nice little 'record'(top speed)function


Miles Per Hour Kilometres Per Hour
mph...221 = kph...357................................This is the STOCK unflashed H2 Ninja motorcycle...


It possibly may have gone even faster if he hadn't had to brake for the corners


This is the H2R...but both bikes perform this way at these RPMS.

It's pretty clear he's NOT opening her up like he would LIKE to;)And he's in WHAT gear?Look at 1:50 in this vid(among other places)


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/05/15 10:38 AM

There we go. I'm impressed! Get on that H2 and rock, Greenie!



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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/05/15 10:55 AM

LOL...gonna be REAL fun once my ECU gets uncorked by Don;)

I like what that test rider said.."it was spinning the rear with the TC on low setting"...WHEEE!


From a member in Canada.."I just spoke to my dealer (Burlington Cycle) this morning. Kawasaki Canada has some of them and is in the process of receiving the rest".


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/05/15 12:41 PM

Gawd, that muffler has GOT to go!

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/05/15 2:21 PM

Miles Per Hour Kilometres Per Hour
mph...221 = kph...357................................This is the STOCK unflashed H2 Ninja motorcycle...

Where in the vid did it clock 357Km?

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/05/15 5:30 PM

I was wondering the same thing. That can't be on the track. Still incredibly impressive even if on a LSR course. If that's on the track, this will surpass all of my wildest expectations by a long shot.



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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/05/15 7:19 PM

"Where in the vid did it clock 357Km?"...the forth pic down...that's a recall memory function on Both bikes...this one was the H2 he was riding in those shots there.That series of pics was the first go round of the day.After lunch,he rode the H2R.NO stock H2R maxes at 221 MPH.They're WAY above that.


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 4:21 AM

"Where in the vid did it clock 357Km?"...the forth pic down...that's a recall memory function on Both bikes...this one was the H2 he was riding in those shots there.That series of pics was the first go round of the day.After lunch,he rode the H2R.NO stock H2R maxes at 221 MPH.They're WAY above that."


I saw the stills pic but where in the VIDEO did it clock 357k? A stock H2 with 200BHP isn't going to clock 221mph at Losail (assuming that's where the testing was held). More likely to was the 2R. JMO


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 7:47 AM

I don't know where on the track he did that.You're saying the stock H2 can't hit that at all.Okay...but you're saying an H2R CAN hit that 'somewhere' on the track.Maybe I'm misreading your statement?I think that pic of the max speed is the H2.That's what the first set of pics on the facebook page were about.


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 9:06 AM

"I think that pic of the max speed is the H2."

So you're saying the H2 is faster than a MotoGP bike down the Losail straight?

The 2R has certainly has a greater chance of hitting that speed than the road bike but even then it's a big ask. The 2R has near identical power to weight ratio as a RC213V which clocked 344k (timed speed) at Losail in the hands of guys like Danni Pedrosa and Mark Marquez and they will be coming on to the straight much faster and braking way later than the 2R will manage with an extra 55kg to haul up. Given a longer straight run the 2R should be quicker with over 300bhp on tap. JMO

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 9:22 AM

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/first-rides-tests/2015/march/world-first-test-kawasaki-ninja-h2/



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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 9:47 AM

It’s like nothing else you can buy, especially in third and fourth gear where you’d expect the brutality to wane a little – but it doesn’t. It’ll eat every other road bike for breakfast in these two gears. Never challenge an H2 rider to a roll-on shoot-out, unless you’re on an H2R.

the ZX-10R would stop and change direction faster thanks to being lighter. You could probably carry more corner speed, too. But the new H2 certainly is more superbike than ZZR1400,

If you want to chase lap times get a ZX-10R, but if you want one of the most exciting road bikes ever built – this is it.

WOW, I'm happy for ya Greenie! I can't wait for the offocial Grn report!



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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 9:59 AM

"So you're saying the H2 is faster than a MotoGP bike down the Losail straight?"...I really don't know.That's what I'm saying about that.I never thought about a GP bike to be honest with ya.If that's being said...it's probably being said by someone whose ridden the H2/H2R.I would think anyway.IDK...these new reviews are coming from Pro riders.Are they saying it's faster?

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 10:07 AM

HUB!!!That's a GREAT review video...THANK YOU:)Loved his comments and the filming.Just beautiful....

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 10:15 AM

"I think that pic of the max speed is the H2."...which I said...however,that reading is NOT the max speed available(IMO).That's only showing what was reached THERE.On that track.With braking happening.Slowing.Available tarmac straights.That display isn't there to necessary show the FINAL max speed...as you know(unless you went to the LSR...that would show the max of the bike at THAT venue opened all the way and held there)That I don't think was possible at Losail.It's the same recall function of the Healtech V4 on the Ninja 14.

And thanks Daron....thank you.I really want you to ride this bike sometime...we'll make it so....


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 10:48 AM

.TC set on '1'...

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 10:59 AM

"I’ve ridden Losail before, on the Fireblade SP launch a few years ago. I was confident I knew my way round well enough and rolled down pit lane on a slick-shod H2 like I owned the place. Turn one is a long lazy 180 degree right-hander, just before the apex I went to pick up the gas. At that point, I pretty much pissed my pants. The drive was so ginormous and instant that I nigh on jumped off like I’d been tazed. Torque, like no other bike I’ve ever ridden, flowed from throttle hand to rear tyre in a millisecond. It wasn’t fueling poorly, it wasn’t snatchy as such, there was just so much more of what I was used to that I spent the first two laps with eyes the size of dinner plates staring at my hand each time I wound on some gas, just to make sure I wasn’t being a dick and unknowingly sticking the thing on the stop. I wasn’t and this bike just got awesome. Through the right-left-right-right flick in the middle of the track, the weight of the bike was obvious, but not an issue. You don’t ride this bike thinking it’s like a ZZR or a Hayabusa, you ride it thinking it’s like a ZX-10R or a GSX-R and that’s a good thing. Round the last right hander in third gear, eyes burning a dot on the hazy horizon, I went for the stop and hoped that I was about to experience everything I’d imagined in the few months since finding out I was on this trip"...IDK Pegscraper...IS it faster?.

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 11:07 AM

it might be faster, but it wont handle better, and, MCNguy recons it wont lap faster then a zx10, but who gives a fuk, the fun will be imense



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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 11:23 AM

I think it's important here to mention...the rider IS controlling what's being done.If he thinks it's a particular way...then that's his opinion...which is fine.Remember...these guys are on their 'first ride' impressions.At their skill level.Lots of these opinions could change as people get saddle time with it.Plus you have to take into account...NO ONE wants to be known as the FIRST guy to wreck a 25K bike especially at something as big as Losail.Not saying his impressions aren't valid.They are...but they are HIS impressions.Someone else may have a very different feel of this bike....just too soon to make concrete assessments right now.He did say.."ride it like a 10R or...".Someone else may say..."It will outhandle a 10R"..both valid.Depends totally on who's riding it,and their skill level and mindset.

I seriously think the idea of crashing this new bike weighed pretty heavy on all their minds while riding.


"but it wont handle better"...no offense Mot...but just how do you KNOW it won't?Because some guy 'thinks' it won't...and rides it like that.Get Rossi on that bad boy...or Spies...or some others.I think the 'impressions' could be very different.

These runs were made by JOURNALISTS...not PROS...they have skills naturally...but not like Rossi or those guys.


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 11:46 AM

To be fair here...not one of those guys are riding this bike full out...not one.They don't know WHAT to expect.There is some amount of hesitation happening with all of em.If a guy was told...say a Rossi..to go out and really rail this thing,and don't worry about wrecking,that's no problem,I think the results would be somewhat more in favor of the actual capabilities of this machine.

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 12:15 PM

"IDK Pegscraper...IS it faster?."

Than a MotoGP bike...no. In the MCN test they're talking about braking from 190, not 220mph+. Faster than any other road bike certainly but that was expected wasn't it?


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/06/15 12:19 PM

becasuse, if kawasaki have produced abike that is faster then and better handling than a moto gp bike, why havent they won it, its 238 kilos, its designed around a supercharger not an all new type of suspension, whether you or i can make it handle any better then we can our zx....
238 kilo, versus around 160 kg...give or take, sixty kilos, it will not handle better than a moto gp bike.


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