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Thread: Testing in Testing @ Qatar

Created on: 03/05/15 03:46 AM

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/08/15 9:10 AM

When mine arrives I have two very nice 2+mile straights where I can ride at full throttle.Perhaps it won't reach 200mph...but believe me...if it can go 221..you'll see it here first


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/08/15 12:23 PM

I think there may be a bit of a mix up here between the 2 bikes and the speed stats being quoted etc. The MCN guy is talking specifically about the H2R, "a 300bhp motorcycle" and "I was clocking 322kmh (200mph)at the end of the straight" and the "Japanese test riders doing 220mph> in testing".
So he's obviously talking about the speed he himself attained on the H2R at the end of the start finish straight at Losail but the Japanese test riders were probably at some other venue with a longer straight?

The thing to remember here is when you get to those sorts of speeds on any motorcycle other than those streamlined, prone riding position machines they use on the salt flats, the power required to gain even a few more mph increases almost exponentially so it takes a LOT more power to get an extra 10mph or so. The first R1's were 150bhp and would clock about 175mph. A 200bhp ZX10/14R can just about manage 200mph.
So the question is, how much extra mph will an extra 100bhp give you?


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/08/15 1:05 PM

Doesn't matter really.When I get mine...if she'll do 220....I'll know it.Sa'll good.Get the rev limiter raised...gonna be a fast azz bike...that's for sure;)I SERIOUSLY doubt I'll be trying to rail at 200mph in the curves....Fastest I've done with my 14R in the curves has been 160 once or twice...but that's it.May have been able to rail faster...but why put others in jeopardy for the sake of 'will it?'I'm no Pro...so why push it I say.


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/08/15 1:28 PM

The issue has been...getting from 1st to 6th without flipping the thing.As was mentioned several times,in several reviews,you can't just pin this thing in the lower gears...you have to get into it a wee bit more mildly to keep the rear grabbing.And you can't use full or even partial TC expecting monster High speed topping...it won't let it accelerate as it needs to to get a half mile straight full on top speed.In Japan,they have a monster test track...fully banked just for this type of test.
I say..the H2 hit 221.In Japan.

At the Losail track,there's just not enough room to pin her and keep her pinned to reach a max speed for the bike.She's just too strong for those straights...they're not long enough.

G it seems to reason you can pin the H2R WOT due to the crazy electrics this girl has....as they said you can hammer it and she will keep it right on the edge the entire time.....But as much as I would like to think the H2 hit 220 I think and pretty sure there's no way.....I only say it because after going up to the timing events in Maine with my heavily modified ZX 14 on nitrous and it was very hard to hit that goal.....


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/08/15 1:38 PM

It's all okay....H2/H2R...crazy electronics...yup...can't wait to get er set up personally...this is gonna be FUN!!!;)


"it was very hard to hit that goal....."...so it wasn't NOT hit?On the 14R.


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/08/15 2:40 PM

Yeah I hit it on my 2009 ZX14 not an R. But I hit 199.2 in the mile and 203.47 In the 1.5 mile. Hit my life long goal of 200.... But I was thinking after the pipe n flash on the H2 I may have to just head back again n see what happens....:)


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/08/15 3:15 PM

Yep...methinks so Some.

I like that recall function on the H2(H2R as well).Takes any questioning out of the equation;)


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/08/15 3:22 PM

"At the Losail track,there's just not enough room to pin her and keep her pinned to reach a max speed for the bike.She's just too strong for those straights...they're not long enough."

Too stong? Don't know about that. MotoGP bikes are hitting 214mph on the same straight so are accelerating/braking harder but the rider is going to make a difference for sure. Those hacks at the H2/R test are certainly no newbies and are obviously very experienced riders but MotoGP gods they are not.
My standard 14R is supposed to be good for 200 with the speed limiter removed but with my 6'3" 235lb ass stuck out in the wind.....I doubt it. JMO

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/08/15 3:44 PM

As was mentioned several times,in several reviews,you can't just pin this thing in the lower gears...you have to get into it a wee bit more mildly

i noticed in the sound clip with the "chirps," it did not blow off between shifts from 1-2 and 2-3. That was eithetr a rider going light on the throttle or the ECU restricts the supercharger in 1 and 2.



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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/08/15 5:00 PM

It was the rider.There are no sc restrictions.She'll pump fully with the rpms.

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/11/15 5:00 PM

What would be the chances of someone registering a H2R for road use in the US? Other than trial and enduro machines, the registration of new competition motorcycles for road use is not allowed over here AFAIK.


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/11/15 5:25 PM

Good point. I don't remeber what info is required to register a vehicle lic plate but maybe there is a dead giveaway in some piece of info you hand over to the the DMV. ...then again, I've never tried to register a vehicle that was non-street legal. The H2R looks street legal as any other sportbike as long as you figure out a way to put a headlight on it. It would not look blatantly street illegal like an ATV or a snowmobile does. If there is no other way to detect whether a vehicle is eligible to be registered for use on public roads other than appearance, the H2R could slip by.


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/11/15 6:23 PM

Over here we have something called European Type Approval which all road going motorcycles have to meet. Competition motorcycles are exempt but only enduro and trials machines are allowed as they are the only events which include sections of driving on open public roads.

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/11/15 8:23 PM

"What would be the chances of someone registering a H2R for road use in the US"...where I'm at,I think it would be no different than a regular streetbike.No one looks at the bike.No one inspects it.You just go in and register it.That's it.I doubt any officers would have a clue what is really is.Aside from the upper cowl winglets(no mirrors)...they MIGHT notice that if they were sitting next to ya,or passing oncoming.I don't think many(if any) would notice no headlamp if they were approaching...probably wouldn't realize there wasn't one with the front looking as it does.It's got those two Ram openings with white filter material right there...most likely they'd think those were headlamps...perhaps dimmed or something.Yeah,It could be done here.No turn signals?From the rear..if they were behind ya,then yeah,probably WOULD notice that and pull ya over.Once they walked up to it,THEN they'd see the 'violations'.But just riding by,I don't think so.


Course,the main problem would be...if you DID get stopped...you can bet the officer would be tellin his buddies about this 'crazy silver/black' bike he stopped..and say to watch out for it.Then you'd be screwed.And they WOULD do that here.


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/12/15 8:26 PM

Don't know about the other 49 but in Texas you need a VIN to register a road vehicle and purchase insurance. DMV can tell in about 5 seconds this is not a road legal machine. Best bet would be to borrow the plate and inspection sticker off another bike you own and then go play. I imagine if you ever got pulled over on an H2R, getting caught with a phoney license plate would be the least of your worries.


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/12/15 9:52 PM

;)...I didn't think about the VIN deal...not sure they would check it?I mean,if you had the paperwork.I really don't know.Probably would run it.(at the DMV that is).No idea what the vin would reveal.Would it say something like.."not for street use"?IDK.

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/13/15 3:28 AM

GR I'm told it will say that right on the MSO / Title just like a dirt bike so I don't see it working...would be fun though. To be honest if I could have gotten an H2R regastired I would have bought one even if I had to rob a bank to get it. Lol



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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/13/15 6:43 AM

Yep, registering the H2R for the road is going to be tough Grn, I think borrowing the license plate and sticker off the 14R would work, you're not going to get pulled over unless they get a helicopter on you and even one of those won't keep up if you're on a long straight road.

Most use the Bell 206 Jet Ranger, never exceed speed is 150 mph.

Never exceed speed: 130 knots (241 km/h, 150 mph)

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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/13/15 7:02 AM

If they have the Hellfire Missile you're screwed...lol!


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RE: Testing in Testing @ Qatar
03/13/15 8:49 AM

LOL...

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