Just wondering how many of you have concealed handgun permits and carry while riding? Also what is your preferred weapon of choice and how do you carry it? The reason that i ask is because i wear my jacket on the snug side and am hoping to get some ideas.

I wear my bazooka down my trouser leg...

Mad

I have a CCW and carry a Kel-Tec P3AT 380 auto. It fits in my pants pocket, the outside pocket of my winter coat or the inside pocket of my summer jacket. It is very small, has a built in laser grip and I always take it when on the bike.

Walther ppk/s. Small, light, and very accurate.

Carrying my Taurus 24/7 Pro Compact 40 cal is still too big to conceal while riding. I am going to have to look at something that will fit in my pocket as I prefer to carry at all times.

I think it's VERY wise to carry while out riding.You just never know what yer gonna encounter...

Wait! I need a permit??!!

Even with a concealed carry permit, which not too many States make easy to get, most State prohibit having a weapon (concealed or not) in a privately owned vehicle unless the weapon is in a locked case or otherwise cannot be accesses, and the ammunition is a locked case in a different part of the vehicle.

This is right out of both California law, and Maryland law, and Alabama law.

All the good old boys with hunting rifles on racks in the rear windows of their trucks..... no ammunition or they could be arrested and lose their guns. But if they have the ammo in a locked box, they are good to go.

So carrying on a bike is likely to get your arrested, your bike impounded, your gun taken away, if not in your own state, then possibly when you cross into another state.

I know lots of folks in COG who pack pistols in their luggage, and meet the legal requirements. If you have a pistol with a cable lock through the barrel out of the receiver/cylinder in a case in your side-case, and the ammo is in a locked box in the top case, you are probably legal everywhere except places like my state, Maryland.

If you get searched, plan on being hassled in the extreme by the police, if not arrested just to see how it sorts out in court. The cops don't want you carrying in a car or on a bike.

No state has a law against pump-action shotguns. Sling it over your back... open carry and loaded is legal everywhere.

@ privateer That's why i live in Texas. We can carry on our private property which includes our vehicles without a concealed permit. I do not carry when outside of Texas borders because the laws are so different state to state.
@ hagrid I like the way you think bud. Although open long gun carry is legal, you will most certainly get hit for disturbing the peace or something similar. I would like to test it out though riding through town to work with a pistol grip pump 12 ga slung across my back. Hahaha.

I bought a new Mossberg 12 gauge pump in Arizona and I was on a Yamaha V-max. Luckily the shotgun came in a box so I laid it across my lap and rode 15 miles home. No problems !!

hagrid; open or concealed carry of any firearm is illegal in Illinois.
"Illinois does not issue concealed carry licenses, nor does it accept CCLs issued by other states. It is the only state that has no provision for the concealed carry of firearms by citizens.[10] Open carry is also illegal, except when hunting, or in a fixed place of business with owner's permission, or in one's abode. When a firearm is being transported, it must be unloaded and enclosed in a case."
A point I've made to our senators is that Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the country, and one of the highest gun crime stats. Obama has said Chicago's gun laws are the model for the nation. Now that the supreme court has said it is unconstitutional for Illinois to not have a concealed carry law (the only state without one), they have to come up with one fast. Should be interesting.

Thx for the info Al. All the more reason to avoid that state in its entirety.

Illinois will soon have some form of concealed carry, so you won't have to be scared to come here. But if you won't go places where you can't carry, you must stay home a lot. Most public buildings, government offices, schools, airports and many other places do not allow concealed weapons. Maybe they should. Maybe everyone should be armed. Then, the first person who draws, everyone else can blow their brains out. But when it comes to that, I will be the one staying home. As it is now, I go anywhere I want to go, unarmed and unafraid. But more people are getting more and more paranoid of the "coming conflict" or some other such biblical apocalypse everyone seems to be preparing for. Sounds like a self-fulfilling prophesy to me. And please don't bother citing some report or statistics. State-by-State, the States with the most restrictive gun laws have the least gun deaths per capita. Texas has the most liberal gun laws in the nation, but their prisons are full of criminals who had no fear of someone with a pistol in their jacket. If it makes you feel personally safer, so be it. But it doesn't deter crime or make society safer in general. A guy I work with has been buying and selling ammo and guns on the side on company time. Everyone knows about it but the boss. When the boss finds out, he will be lucky to keep his job. At the worst, someone he makes one of these "straw sales" to will hurt or kill someone with something he provided while he was supposed to be working. Then he will have to live with that for the rest of his life, job or no. In my opinion, it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of, but all his gun-enthusiast buddies think he's cool. In the meantime, stay in Texas, stay in Pennsylvania. It's gettin' mighty dangerous in Illinois.

^^^^ did anyone ever tell you that you've a very confrontational manner of communicating?

hagrid; The strict gun laws aren't the only reason to avoid this crappy state. Just look at the quality of the politicians we produce.

Danno; "I go anywhere I want to go, unarmed and unafraid" Try that at night in Harvey or E. St Louis and see how long you last. Anyone that makes a statement like that has either never been anywhere dangerous, or is a fool. Even armed cops in groups are afraid to go into some areas.
"States with the most restrictive gun laws have the least gun deaths per capita" You also have to figure in unemployment rates, population density, race, general economy, etc... New Orleans and Detroit are at the top of the list, and it's definitely not because of gun laws, or lack thereof.
" their prisons are full of criminals who had no fear of someone with a pistol in their jacket." You could say that about every state in the nation. Criminals that carry don't care about gun laws, and if they have a gun, they don't care if you do. What about all the criminals that don't use guns? How many non-gun crimes are prevented in those same areas you say gun deaths are so high?

Actually, plenty of data exist showing convicted criminals routinely admit that if they know the house or business has a) a burglar alarm, and/or b) a person with a firearm, they will pass by and go for easier pickings.

What is awesome is the number of times homeowners and shop owners have run criminals out with firearms, or killed or wounded them. Far more than have had a bad result from being armed.

When someone says they go anywhere unafraid, they are full of bs. I can think of a few places I could drop even the bravest of souls that would cause them to piss their pants.

One place I won't go is to an ego pissing contest where the other side isn't going to be let the odds remain even.

Well, John, when you misconstrue or misquote a statement, it's easy to declare bs. I said I go anywhere I want to go unafraid. The places you could "drop" me are not likely anywhere I would want or need to go. I really don't like going anywhere where folks are carrying concealed firearms. There is no way of knowing what their intent is or if the arms are legal or not.

And for every successful case of self-defense with a firearm (which I do not oppose, and never said anything against, so don't misconstrue again) there are several more of accidental shootings, suicides and legally-bought and licensed weapons used for mass murder.

So as I said, arm everyone, and whoever draws first, blow their brains out. If that's the kind of society you want to live in, we're moving in that direction. You all should be happy instead of worrying about one State that doesn't (yet) have concealed/carry.

BTW, there are places I could "drop" you where the people there will take your concealed/carry and stick it up your ass before they pull the trigger. I have no desire to go there, either.

An again, 'g8ter, you misconstrue. I have no rhyme or reason to go to Harvey and have been in E. St. Louis many times at night, although anymore, there's no reason to want to be there either, other than passing through. It's more or less a wasteland.

And there's nothing wrong with defending yourself, whether at home or in public. But if you regularly go to places where carrying is necessary, you're probably one of the reasons.

But I do like what you said about jobs etc. It IS a proven fact that when unemployment goes up, so does crime. And it's true that gun laws (or lack of them) have little to do with it.

And burglars would prefer you're not even home when they break in. In the old days, they wouldn't even carry a weapon because it wasn't necessary and the penalties relative to b&e punishments were heavy. But anymore crimes against property carry punishments and incarcerations just as long as crimes against persons, so with the general populace armed in their homes...

And other than my family members, there's nothing here worth shooting someone over.

In my mind, the whole problem, from top to bottom, legal and illegal is the mindset that anyone, no matter how big or how small, how law-abiding or lawless, everyone is made equal by the simple addition of a firearm and the willingness to use it. Until there is psychological testing, registration of all firearms, and a draw-down of weapons manufactured for the sole purpose of killing other humans, things are just going to get worse. And concealed/carry isn't going to change that, it's only going to contribute to the problem.

Danno; I thought about that "anywhere I want to go" after I got off the computer last night. :-D I don't want to carry, and I don't think carrying guns will equalize everyone. However, the definition of an assault weapon is WAY too encompassing. Even the .22 I got when I was 12 is an assault weapon. Limiting the size of a magazine is also ridiculous. Biden said it takes 1.5 to 2 minutes to switch magazines. This just shows how out of touch these guys are. My 83 yr old mother, that's never held a gun before, did it in under 20 seconds. Biden also said the only weapon you need to hold off any armed persons no matter what weapons they have, is a 2 barreled shotgun. He also told his wife to just fire the shotgun into the air off the porch and that would scare anyone away. I hope his neighbors are inside at the time.
The main problem in my eyes is the justice system. Though Chicago has high gun crimes, and tight gun laws, they also have the lowest rate of conviction in those gun crimes. Make the punishment bad enough for using a gun, and actually hand out that punishment when applicable, and there will be less guns used in crimes. Make armed robbery = attempted murder, make it illegal to even be in a gang, and build huge prisons + stop closing the ones we have. Then stop filling them with harmless people using drugs. Stop wasting our tax dollars trying to write useless new laws.

dericrey; To get back on topic.... my brother carries a Ruger LCP .380, and wears cargo pants when riding.

I don't disagree with your assessment of the justice system. But my riding partner is a corrections officer and I can tell you the prisons are already overfull and the will to raise the revenue to build and staff more isn't there.

People who use guns lawfully will never agree with people like Joe Biden. I run a sporting clay shoot for 200 shooters every June, and the guys who participate are all good people with no apparent brain farts that would cause them to do something stupid. But idiots' access to firearms needs to be more restricted, or we will continue to see more school massacres, more random shootings of police, more accidental gun deaths and nothing will change.

Thanks alg8er, I was actually looking at wallet holsters today. The LCP seems to be a popular choice for a small concealed carry weapon so there are a lot of aftermarket products made for it. I am also researching boot holsters for my Taurus.