Getting more and more comfortable on her. Finally really getting into corners on the left and the right is absolutely beautiful now.

She does love being at the track ^^^_^^^

* Last updated by: Fantastic on 6/26/2016 @ 6:48 PM *

Apologies for the blurry photos. Cameraman didn't fix it until after I was done for the day :/

Awesome pics Fantastic! The Mighty ZX-14R out front, looking good.

Yeah, sub-par pics ... you need to go back!

Nice pics.. Do you get a lot of big bore street machnes at your track days??

Yeah, sub-par pics ... you need to go back!

Nice pics.. Do you get a lot of big bore street machnes at your track days??

Have you taken a 600 to that or any track? Can you compare?

Have you taken a 600 to that or any track? Can you compare?

The smallest bike I have taken to the track was a VFR800 on my first day ever and my 2nd day was a 2006 ZX14 3 years ago. I jumped right into the deep end that also has sharks and piranhas in it. They do bite btw:
https://imgur.com/a/S5P2C

Great pics! Thx. Gotta get some riding lessons here.

Yeah, sub-par pics ... you need to go back!

I did try to spin up the rear tire here. I have been able to do it with absolutely every tire I have ever had but these Diablo Rosso Corsa would not slip at all. I was getting the front coming up instead of a spinning rear even leaned over :O

What hot pressures were you running at the track when you couldn't break the Pirelli's loose with that torque monster?

What hot pressures were you running at the track when you couldn't break the Pirelli's loose with that torque monster?

Unfortunately I did not check warm pressure as the tires behaved properly after I set it to 30/28 FR/RR cold. It was a sweltering day and that particular track has amazing levels of grip, unusual amounts for a track honestly.

* Last updated by: Fantastic on 7/5/2016 @ 9:04 PM *

Nice photos Fantastic. Had some great photographers at a track day I attended on the 4th. Well except they showed me that I have a long way to go. My rear tire looks just like yours after the day. Guess I will be trying a 200/55 next. Probably be able to get one or two more days out of my 190/55 Q3 before I have to decide. What track are you on?

* Last updated by: david5525 on 7/6/2016 @ 8:39 PM *

Hey, a track that doesn't require you to cover your lights.

Good pic ... you say you have a long way to go, but man that bike looks leaned over pretty darn far already

Fantastic, great pics. Have you considered dumping the heavy stock exhaust. I may know of an exhaust system that would save you close to 40 pounds and give you a few extra horses. Now that would be noticable on a track day!

Geeze Guys .... I was thinking at least take the mirrors off and make her look like a track whore for the day. Its like 5 screws each?

Geeze Guys .... I was thinking at least take the mirrors off and make her look like a track whore for the day. Its like 5 screws each?

Nah, this way you can watch the other bikes disappear in your mirrors.

What track are you on?

NCBike/NCCar, VIR, NJMP

Guess I will be trying a 200/55 next.

Believe me you will never go back! Though, the chickenstrips are hard as fuck to get rid of then.

you say you have a long way to go, but man that bike looks leaned over pretty darn far already

More than likely he is talking about his body position. Look at my helmet as it relates to my bike then look at his helmet related to his bike. His ass is moving off the bike a little but his helmet is staying centered above the gas tank and that is something every rider has to fight because our survival instincts tell us to move away from the fast moving pavement not towards it.

If a rider gets off the bike more in a turn the bike has to lean less and that means they can add more speed for the same lean angle.

* Last updated by: Fantastic on 7/6/2016 @ 10:08 PM *

You got that right Fantastic. Moving my but over only does so much. I need to get my whole upper body forward and over. I thought I was getting my knee a little closer until I saw the pics. Damn that pavement looks closer than it really is at speed in the corners.

Hey, a track that doesn't require you to cover your lights.

Geeze Guys .... I was thinking at least take the mirrors off and make her look like a track whore for the day. Its like 5 screws each?

* Last updated by: david5525 on 7/6/2016 @ 10:29 PM *

My mirrors stay on because after my track day is over I am riding the bike a few hours home.

Have you taken a 600 to that or any track? Can you compare?

I've ridden quite a few trackbikes. Some notable models include the Grom, Ninja 250/300, KTM 390, SXV550, SV650, all the Japanese 600s and 1000s, Panigale 1299, and of course our venerable ZX-14R.

The 14R is heavier and slower in transitions. It will require more effort and prudence when trail braking, as you're asking a LOT of that front tire and it will slide. You'll lose a fair bit of corner speed vs the smaller bikes due to the wheelbase and width. Drives off the apex can be sketchy, as you will spin up the rear if you hammer it hard enough. The brakes in stock form will warp and begin to fade after a hard session of riding in anything over intermediate classes.

With a decent drive, the straights are fun. You'll still get beat into the first turn by the modern 1000s, as they don't have to brake as soon.

Don't let any of that daunt those of you who want to track your 14(R)s, though. It's still an exceptionally capable motorcycle for track work. You just need to understand the limitations that are inherent to a bike its size.

You'll still get beat into the first turn by the modern 1000s, as they don't have to brake as soon.

According to this video that tested the H2, the ZX14R and the ZX10R they all had the same braking distance essentially so I really do not think the liter bikes have the advantage when slowing for a corner:
https://youtu.be/S4ep4uIxhtY?t=325

Gotta remember that all that extra weight will be shifted onto the front wheel which increases the strength of the friction force which will increase grip and allowable break force before losing the front and if you got ABS it will handle that for you.

I know I late braked a lot of 600s and 1000s on my trackdays but that could have very easily been down to a difference in rider skill and comfort levels.

The 14R is heavier and slower in transitions.

The weight is a very real hindrance to direction changes. Prepare to work for it and be sore the next day as a result. The bright side is at least it isn't as hard to turn as a Busa.

Don't let any of that daunt those of you who want to track your 14(R)s, though.

* Last updated by: Fantastic on 7/7/2016 @ 8:12 PM *

It's rider skill. Expertly ridden track bikes will not be outbraked by a 14R, regardless of the rider. I'm not saying you can't take guys on the brakes at a trackday with one of these pigs, but it's in spite of the braking and cornering prowess of the 14R.

While the straight line, single event braking might be close between the average 1000 and the 14R, repeated applications will quickly cause the OEM 14R components to falter. The extra weight of the bike equates to extra heat in the system which warps rotors and makes fluid boil, causing brake fade. The tires also only have a given amount of grip to offer. If you overload them they will slide, and all that weight isn't a purely vertical vector either. The inertia of the 14R is much greater than that of a 1000, and that force adds up when you're threshold braking. And again... this is only for vertical braking. Once you begin trail braking, the weight of the bike will make you lose the front much faster as it will more quickly overpower the maximum grip of the front tire.

These failures aren't easy to make happen if you're riding in intermediate or "B" groups (Every org has their own vernacular). Trackdays in general are relaxed pace, and most people are not riding at a pace that will overtax the stock brakes or a good set of tires.

Got more pictures from a different photographers! 2nd shot was quite a ways from the apex so of course I am not fully into the corner.

Looking good man!

Please tell me you have plans for those howitzer exhaust pipes.