And made me a custom TRE, and i made 500 rwhp on a completely stock motor.

Then I disappeared without a trace from the forums, without giving any real proof.

Aren't I cool?

Slow dont be mean,he did make 500 hp.If you take the total hp of 3 runs on the dyno

I made 532/472 n/a...all motor...ooops wait that was my 383 c5 vette

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAB1H4F5pvs&feature=related

The guy was claiming things that have never EVER been done.. By anyone.. Ever.

And couldn't understand why nobody believed him.

Ok, hacking the ecu.. I believe someone with some experience can do it.

Making 200+ hp on an untouched motor with junk pipes? NEVER going to happen. I dont care who tunes your bike, a stock motor bike, even with the best pipe and race fuel and no air filter.. is never going to make 200+ hp.

I agree Slow.

I called bull on his story right off the bat. Especially as he backpedaled to try to get out of it, but it was already in print.

I've seen this online so often I can't count the times some little punk not more than 15 years old claims something that fits the saying, "if its too good to be true, it isn't" to a T.

I doubt the dyno jpeg was legitimate, or even of his bike.

BG has never said if the two posting IDs were the same IP address or not. But I've seen that before, where someone clones themselves under a different ID to try to bolster what the original ID is claiming.

I'd almost drive down to Hunstville, or rather ride, just to force him to follow me to the drag strip and run.

And nobody can hack the ECU. You can replace the EPROM complete if you have the image and change parts of it, but that means you have to understand the structure of the ECU's memory image, and thats probably a closely held secret at Kawasaki.

You could hack the signals coming into it, and out of it with an external device, like a piggy. But not whats "inside" the ECU.

I knew the guys at Amdahl Corporation who reverse engineered the IBM cpu and microcode on the OS370 mainframe computer. Since IBM owns copyright and patent on the actual internals, they couldn't even "print it out" and use that to based a clone machine on. They had to try all possible inputs and see what the outputs were and then design hardware and microcode which would do the same thing. In the end, if it ran MVS (the operating system software) correctly, it was a success.

Those guys could hack a ZX14 ECU by developing an electronic device which was "plug-compatible" and replaced the OEM ECU. Which means they COULD add TC and ABS and all sorts of goodies because they wouldn't be contrained by the actual internal structure and microcode of the OEM ECU.

But there wouldn't be enough money in it to entice guys like that, who make a cool M$ on a bad year.

* Last updated by: privateer on 7/15/2011 @ 12:27 PM *

I must have missed the original posting, but funny without a doubt.

I wish I knew what color that bike was, so I could be sure to stay clear of it and it's whopping 500 horse.

You should have seen some of the bad-asses at Gettysburg Bike Week with their Screaming Eagle motors, claiming 300 rwhp. I got into a roll-on from about 15 mph with one, and he almost knocked me off my bike with his open pipes, but 2 seconds later I was so far ahead of him I couldn't even hear him anymore.

I went down to the first cross-road, and hung a U-turn, as he roared up. I didn't even look at him, just rode sedately back to to the parking lot, pulled in between two $35,000 Harley bling-boats, and laughed most of the rest of the day to myself watching the folks who wear ties and suits during the work week trying to look bad-ass and talking about how BAD their bikes are.

Talk is cheap.

BG has never said if the two posting IDs were the same IP address or not.

It would take quite some time to dig through the server logs to find the IPs of these two guys. I checked their registration data and two different email addresses were used, but that probably doesn't mean anything. -bg

On lots of forum software, the Admin can see the IP used for each and every individual post. Didn't know if this forum software could or not.

There are e-mail "programs" out there where a guy can use multiple addresses for ONE e-mail.I hope his massive motor didn't get him into the emergency room!Seriously.

That is different, blue. I am posting on this forum right now. My web browser looked at my machine's IP address when it started, and gives the forum software that address.

The only reason this forum software saves my post, or displays other posts, is when it tries to send to the IP address my web browser reports, the packets get back to my machine.

In the middle of a conversation, you can't change the IP address, or you will lose connectivity.

Email works differently, and you are talking about changing the FROM: address, which is easy to forge. But it is also impossible to hide the true source, because the same rules apply when one mail server tries to connect to another mail server.

I regularily get punks banned by their ISPs for sending spam. I run MailWasher which catches the inbound email, and stuff that is spam, it reports to SpamCop. I get very little spam these days because the spammers have learned my bite is worse than my bark.

It is a question and it hangs there. Its bait and you take it. No harm is answering a question. Its their abstract against yours. Either my dyno blew yours off the map (pun) and shit like that!

Like privy said, when i was a moderator on other forums it would show the IP address in the windows we're all looking at now. Its been a while, but i think it had the ip address underneith the username

"Slow this guy tuned my bike." Slow us what you did setting up your 14. Did you dyno the bike to make map or did you rely solely on a pre-made map?

And Priv, buy the needle type AFR meter. Those digital numbers run so fast up and down, you'll learn that patter sure, but the analog shows you a wider window so you do not have to rely on that one number for a few operations.

And have you noticed I have yet to leave my tune alone? I am now deeper into 15.5 to 16.1 AFR swings. I've been trying to tune this bike and no matter the combo, I keep telling myself no, this is the better tune. Go this way. No, you had it going on with this combo where are your notes?

Sick. This bike is so sick, I'm about ready for another 14. When is the dealer show? I have to detune this puppy before I sell it and it's all stock...

So, who tunes your bike? This is what I do when I get off my bike it'soooooooo well tuned! Gut bottom strong. The Vibe is on! The smooth is in!

Slow, your bike moves or is it the pilot? An IP for a tuneup!

i actually have not been tuned. Been dyno'd once, made some small adjustments but have not been back on to see the #s. I may be doing that this week actually.

hottest part of the year, bike ran 146 mph last weekend. Changed the gearing and it wouldn't even get out of its own way, got to change it back. Could only 60' in the low 1.70s (should be in the 1.50s)

I don't understand what is so magical about the Kaw ECU that more haven't broken the codes so they can re-flash. Can't be any more sophisticated than the GM and Ford ECU's, can it? My Grand National has a removable eprom, so it's easy. I've run both OBD1 and II ECU's in my Corvette, plenty of folks have the ability to reflash those. The piggyback/fool the computer thing was over for the cars by the 90's at least, and proved very unsatisfactory; not enough control for all the variables. Even my ancient Buick eprom can be reprogrammed to control the timing in 100 rpm increments, a miriad of injector sizes, converter lock-up, an on and on. I can make a camshaft change, injectors, etc, and plenty of peeps out there can accomdate those changes perfectly on either car.. Usually the tuners charge around $500 for the initial reflash, half that for subsequent changes. I guess it's just a supply and demand thing for the 14? Not enough potential market? Has to be close on the horizon. Do understand the hesitation for the first ones/being the guinny pig.. I am willing to wait it out tho. I really don't like the idea of stacking those ECU "foolers".