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Thread: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU

Created on: 01/19/15 08:28 PM

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WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/19/15 8:28 PM

0084 IS THE LAST 4 DIGITS ON THE ECU



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/19/15 10:06 PM

I have an 0084. This is ninja's old ECU with a 3,200 rpm miss. Cruise in 6th and about that combo and it's a little annoying. Other than that, nada thing wrong with it. Can't come across a clean one, this is doing nothing but holding a spot on my bench.



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/20/15 5:39 AM

This is ninja's old ECU with a 3,200 rpm miss.


DID YOU DO A ECU HACK OR IT CAME DEFECTIVE FROM KHI.

I did the 08 ecu on 06 injectors and talk about a mess of a fuel map not 1 positive number on the whole fuel map on a turbo bike that's just not right .



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/20/15 8:15 AM

I did the 08 ecu on 06 injectors and talk about a mess of a fuel map

Bad I have converted 06/07 ECU's to Run on 08/11s 330cc injectors. As well as 08/11 to run on the larger 440cc injectors. What do you mean "Mess Of Fuel Map".

not 1 positive number on the whole fuel map on a turbo bike that's just not right .

Not one positive # ???? What does this mean ? Are you talking over and above stock ? ECU or power commander. Stock fuel pressure 43psi or RRFPR 43 to 95 psi ???

I have dozens of Turbo Maps that will get you started enough to get you to the DYNO for AFR testing. Not sure what your trying to do.

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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/20/15 8:16 AM

No hack, just swap. I was more curious to see what an OE does when defective from KHI? And now I know. I made a pass with '06 injectors and an '08 ECU. Way too rich. 158hp stock on a dyno and it was loading up with the bigger injectors.



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/20/15 2:47 PM

Not one positive # ???? What does this mean ?

yes the whole map is negative numbers like -10 to -30 on a pc3 usb over the stock map


get you to the DYNO for AFR testing

I build my own maps with a wideband datalogger ... dynos are for women



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/20/15 2:49 PM

I made a pass with '06 injectors and an '08 ECU. Way too rich. 158hp stock on a dyno and it was loading up with the bigger injectors.

hub knows what I'm talking about 08 ecu mated to 07 injectors is wacko



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/20/15 4:31 PM

yes the whole map is negative numbers like -10 to -30 on a pc3 usb over the stock map

Ok, pc3, that helps.

I build my own maps with a wideband datalogger ... dynos are for women

Ok you build your own fuel maps in the PC3,,,,,, Got it. "Dyno for women", shhhh secret.

hub knows what I'm talking about 08 ecu mated to 07 injectors is wacko

Will be same in PCV

Badzx14r if this is truly what your doing or should I say how you are doing then you also know that AFR rules the roost in these parts when it comes to Boost, Not the Numbers in the PC3 map. They mean nothing. Switch to 525cc injectors and you will see the numbers continue In the Negative.

For what your doing the 2008 to 2011 ECU has benefits the 2006/07 does not. Your going the wrong direction for a boosted bike.


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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/20/15 5:21 PM

For what your doing the 2008 to 2011 ECU has benefits the 2006/07 does not.

name them . I can name 1 huge one the 06 07 ecu has over the 08-11 ecu . the map I used is a copy paste from a PC5 to the pc3 . when you make 100 passes and average run is 8.30's at 175mph at 840lbs combo I listen to what your saying until then nobody going to convince me I'm doing it wrong. want to race .

I've got 4 years of testing and support on the 06 ecu with stock injectors or with 650cc injectors and pc3 to use.
if I had a pc5 I've got 2 years of testing on it with 06 ecu. its easier to use what I got than purchase alot of new crap and start fresh .


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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/20/15 5:44 PM

I found a 06 ecu and purchase it



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/20/15 6:50 PM

Yeah, whack it was... when I didn't have an AFR to read off of. Well, here is more wacko... I have the ability of plugging in or toggling 8 individual tunes. I tied-in my TFI and ran that accel mode today. I'll try and see if I can run both TFI and the pc5 together? Don't ask me why I just can and that means 9 tunes. Imagine the combinations.

Good move. Better off with a working one.



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/20/15 6:58 PM

Don't ask me why

Don't worry I won't . 2 TUNES IS PLENTY WACKO FOR ME



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/21/15 4:07 AM

I can name 1 huge one the 06 07 ecu has over the 08-11 ecu . the map I used is a copy paste from a PC5 to the pc3 . when you make 100 passes and average run is 8.30's at 175mph at 840lbs combo I listen to what your saying until then nobody going to convince me I'm doing it wrong. want to race .
I've got 4 years of testing and support on the 06 ecu with stock injectors or with 650cc injectors and pc3 to use.
if I had a pc5 I've got 2 years of testing on it with 06 ecu. its easier to use what I got than purchase alot of new crap and start fresh .

Badzx14r you talk as if all should know the info you just posted above. So sorry I have never heard of you and all of your amazing accomplishments. I Was only going to offer some help that I know from your post would have helped you greatly. Won't do that again Lol.

Once again,

For what your doing the 2008 to 2011 ECU has benefits the 2006/07 does not.

name them

I could list them in great detail to help you but clearly that would be a Huge mistake on my part. Carry On,

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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/21/15 5:08 AM

So sorry I have never heard of you and all of your amazing accomplishments

NOTHIN AMAZING I just don't make my accomplishments common knowledge but i learnt a long time ago its my dime and my time and internet info is just that. .

If you was really smart and knew turbos for all the money you spent for all that junk under your seat you would bought this turbo efi 101 and got rid of all that crap under that seat . questions ask them


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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/21/15 12:12 PM

I just don't make my accomplishments common knowledge but i learnt a long time ago its my dime and my time and internet info is just that.

You don't ???? could swear you just posted them lol. Whatever, keep your mind closed and Never move forward Bad. Hey, I was only offering to help and give you a map but now I'm really glad you're enjoying your dime instead. You have fun with that dime. Everybody likes Dimes.

If you was really smart and knew turbos for all the money you spent for all that junk under your seat you would bought this turbo efi 101 and got rid of all that crap under that seat

LMAO, insults Ok I'll give you this one, my "Junk" now is junk compared to the EFI Series Link you have now shown but most certainly wasn't when I bought it. Keeping up with the tech is not Easy on the wallet. Free cash to keep up with the Jones is Not something I will ever be interested in. You can have that one.

Also, this old tech of mine when moved to my 14R still does All I need it to do. The Rest we can Now do inside the ECU. This being said spending huge doe on holly system is Not Needed. Cheaper my way with fantastic results.

Enough Talk Bad, Now show uncle Rick a picture of your bike with Holly set up or is this just more internet talk from a guy playing with a old ECU he can't figure out LMAO. Hopefully you're not bragging up Tech you don't own while shitting on me. That would just be sad.

If you was really smart and knew turbos

"If you was",,,, Really ? i'm not touching this one. To Funny.

I may not be the smartest guy Bad But I'm always willing to learn. Which is why This not so smart guy clearly knows something you don't.

Thanks for teaching me that some people are just not worth the trouble. Cheers

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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/21/15 12:16 PM

Romes, you have to understand the guy's wit. Don't take it personal. This sounds like pit pootea prose. Tree talking the head game. Nice chain and all that kind of... When I see those trophies next to that bike, you figure someone spent a lot of money on trophies and the only way that happens is a lot of racers show up and enter an event and part of that money goes towards trophies, track rental, ambulance, etc.

Or, you can look at those trophies, see the entry sheet shows only three turbo bikes entered and those are third place trophies next to that bike.



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/21/15 12:59 PM

Romes, you have to understand the guy's wit. Don't take it personal.

Hub I was just trying to help the guy. What is very simple to me is Also something he clearly does Not understand. You know I love to help when I can. In return my only hope is others will help me when they can. Being nice to people earns Respect. Where is his trophy for that ?

This time my help was clearly not wanted and what my offer returned was insult. His wit I guess. No biggy, there is humor in it

Last time I offered to help a Turbo Guy with that ECU he was also in disbelief. Could not get his head around the fact that it is possible to fix his bike while making it run better with Boost. He took my offer for Help and what was years of struggle got solved. Bonus was a new friend was made. Sort of the exact opposite of what happened here.

Here is what he had to say.

I usually don't spend much time on the forums these days, but I feel it necessary to come on here and speak about my experiences with the Romans flash.

A little info first: I own a 2009 ZX14 which has been modified to add a Cycle logic turbo kit. The turbo is an IHI VF22 with an 8 PSI spring in the wastegate actuator. The fuel is being managed using a DJ PCV, DJ wideband 2 and the LCD 200 for recording. The bike has been built as a fast daily driver not a drag bike

The turbo kit has been on the bike for ~3.5 years and a little over 11k miles. Since the beginning I have been annoyed (that's putting it lightly) by the motor's inability to pull smoothly when throttle was applied. Every time I would increase throttle, sometimes by as little as 10% the bike would "cough", "cough" and then go. I went thru hundreds of maps and different accel pump settings. I changed all kind of hardware on the bike to try and fix this problem.

Another issue was that I could not take a corner in a higher gear and kind of "chug" through it with the infamous "cough", "cough" then go. It got to the point where I turned my back on the ole girl and started dabbling in Yamaha VMAX's.

They are not a ZX14 but I was having fun with them. I started thinking about selling the 14 but new I needed to sell some of my high dollar parts to recoup some $$$. I sold my Ohlins suspension to a forum member and then sold my carbon fiber wheels to Romans.

It was this sell that opened the door to discussions with Romes about the problems I was having with the turbo bike. He said he could help, he said he could get rid of the issues I was having, my response "yeah, yeah" whatever.
After a couple of discussions I decided to send my ECU and have it flashed, if it worked it would help me sell the bike.

Last Sunday, beautiful day in North Texas I decided to take her out for a flogging. WOW, I could not believe the results, the bike was sooooo smoooooth. The "choughing" was gone, unbelieveable, I spent years chasing this issue and now its gone. I felt like I was on a different bike, the acceleration from bottom to top was just seemless. I had so much fun that I have decided to keep the bike, can I have my suspension and wheels back now?

If you own a turbo ZX14 this is the best money you could ever spend on your bike, $250 USD and you can send it back for changes as many times as you like. The other good part, Rick is a good guy, easy to get along with and very knowledgeable.
sorry so long but wanted to get the good word out!

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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/21/15 1:38 PM

You do know this is 1bad, yes? You both signed on the same day. Nice compliment there, Romes. I think 1bad went thru an engine and began trusting himself rather than others. Schooled at a late age you might say.



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/21/15 1:53 PM

You do know this is 1bad, yes?

Ahhhh, No I Most Certainly Did Not ROFL Rob ???? You're killing me here. I was thinking this is some new douche bag giving me a hard time for trying to help. lol Just about fell off my chair here. what happened to the # 1 in front of the name, diff avatar too. Green Bike wtf. Thanks for the Gut wrencher boys. Going to my Room now.

So Bad this is No Busa ECU, have you come back to kawi. Last I heard you were done and gone suzuki full time.

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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/21/15 5:12 PM

Last I heard you were done and gone suzuki full time.

I got both and a vn1600 so don't believe everything you hear. my zx14 is getting ready for a new year as my new race bike . I retired the busa from racing for now and almost turbo the vn1600. I only have a pc3 and a wideband under my seat and 10lbs of boost stock motor . less is better !!!!!!!!!!!

hub those trophies gonna cost you $500.00 and get a lane to find out how I got them .

PS I always had this zx14 but it was in 10,000 pieces I call it Johnny Cash Your text to link here...
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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/22/15 2:02 AM

cheaper trophies



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/22/15 5:58 AM

shipping make those expensive cheaper to just go to the race track and win them



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/23/15 1:59 AM

Bad; that would take skills.



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/23/15 5:27 AM

Bad; that would take skills.

or luck . but you can't win if you don't enter



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RE: WTB 06 ZX14 ECU
01/23/15 8:25 AM

I only have a pc3 and a wideband under my seat and 10lbs of boost stock motor . less is better !!!!!!!!!!!

Cometic Head Gaskets

Bad are you still using OEM Stock head gaskets when you do the rebuilds. Compression 12 to 1 ? Reason I'm asking is I have heard reports of the cometic gasket leeching antifreeze. To make matters worse, Only two I know that have used Cometic on the zx14 Both Blew up. One of the bikes blew up Racing me first hard run after install. I too had purchased gaskets and springs but did not have the time to do the install. Thinking I may have dodged a bullet. Your Thoughts as I know you have built your fair share of ZX14 Motors.

10 lbs pump fuel ?

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