It's a bit disturbing to see all of these threads disappearing, maybe we could start an "Enter at Your Own Risk" Smackhouse Forum like Bikeland has for those who want to play rough (Hub....lol!).
You go in there and start talking smack you are on your own. We're all big boys here, censorship is not the way forward....JMHO.

In honor of Grn, we could call it "The Greenhouse".

Any threads that turn rough could be moved there, let 'em duke it out in their private playpen.

Just a thought.

Posted in Newb Forum:

I just suggested to BG to start a Smackhouse type Forum, move all the rough stuff over there and keep the rest of the forums clean.
You enter the "No Spin Zone" at your own risk.....no holds barred! If you can't take the heat, stay out....that simple! This won't be a place for the timid, weak of heart or mama's boyz.
If you talk the talk in the Smackhouse, you best be able to walk the walk or play somewhere else!

I'm on it... watch my shotgun for me.

;)

In honor of Grn, we could call it "The Greenhouse".

I doubt it will happen but that is a good one! Like the idea of a smackhouse but the problem is that many more threads would be getting moved there because they went smackward rather than threads being started there because they were smack from the get-go.

I just hate to post on a thread and then see the thread disappear like happened yesterday because somebody went off on someone else. I'm not going to lie to you though, I find the Grn-Hub exchanges higly entertaining, if they want to go at it, I'm all for it, just make it a special place so we don't scare off all the Newbs.

Kruz? You need to pop up a new Jeffo thread.

You gotta get up pretty early to pull a fast one on Kruz but Jeffco hoodwinked me out of that $50, fair enough. Tune your bike over the phone, I shoulda known better..lol! That's OK, I got my payback, I laughed so hard at that thread I nearly peed my pants. Well worth the price of admission.

Ivan's a different category, I have no bone to pick with him. He's a weird guy but he does his homework, his stuff has delivered more than I asked for everytime. I'm satisfied, nuff said!

Grn will be back and he will try to talk the tech, you know that Hub. You two clowns will go at each other and more threads will disappear. SmackHouse is the safe haven where malignant threads go to live out their natural lives.

Call it the GreenHouse, green house gasses, GRn=GAS'd!!

....the problem is that many more threads would be getting moved there because they went smackward rather than threads being started there because they were smack from the get-go.

I don't think most threads start out smack , they just end up going there when someones feathers get ruffled. It's a bad chemistry thing between Grn and Hub, lotsa ruffled feathers there. Grn used to rub me the wrong way but I figured out why he was triggering me and quit reacting to it.

good ol Samuel Beckett

good ol Samuel Beckett

Grn used to rub me the wrong way but I figured out why he was triggering me and quit reacting to it.

Do tell.

Honest question here Kruz, do you not find the present site and motorcycle theme of this site enough? The reason I ask is because of this last suggestion of a "Smackhouse" thread, and the fact that you won't let go of Grn14 (he had enough and moved on).

I do not know all that went on between Hub, and maybe others, and Grn14, be what I did see seemed like a bunch of kids rallying around their schoolyard pal beating up on the lone kid with the purple shirt. The "Audience" (group of kids) often promotes the event and places the two at the center on a kind of stage. Neither wants to be on the stage but does not know how to exit gracefully.

Hub appears to be extremely knowledgeable about our motorcycles and is very willing to offer help and assistance to others. I would like to think that someone this intelligent and experienced would rather put his future energies into more productive endeavors. I enjoy reading Hubs past helpful posts and look forward to what he can bring to the site. Hub has the ability to lead.

Kruz don't place gas next to fires. Don't delight in fiendish activity. Be a friend and supporter, not an instigator or promoter. I read your thread about leaning/angle where you offered a formula. I noticed that you mentioned you posted that same formula on several other sites and stirred up a lot of emotion. Was the goal to promote an idea that you had and thought useful to others? Or was it to stir the pot and shake the box and sit back and watch? Don't get me wrong I love a lively debate and discussion as long as it is productive and does not tip the objective/subjective scale too far to the subjective side.

I (in my humble opinion, for what one voice or vote is worth) feel that we should keep the site about the ZX-14 and everything Motorcycle. We can all be a little bit better tomorrow than we were today.

Spyglass

lol, i was thinking more along "Waiting for Godot"

Sorry if the place is boring you w/o Grn around, Kruz... but I say fuck 'em... The energy around here has been much better, IMO, this week with Grn gone. When the guy comes back (we all know he will), I hope he has gotten his hands on some good meds.

lol, i was thinking more along "Waiting for Godot"

Woulda been my second guess.

No Hub, no entertainment, keep it on tech, dry as a service manual.... X+Y=Z!

Honest question here Kruz, do you not find the present site and motorcycle theme of this site enough? The reason I ask is because of this last suggestion of a "Smackhouse" thread, and the fact that you won't let go of Grn14 (he had enough and moved on).

Grn hasn't gone anywhere, just lurking in the shadows and will make his grand re-entry soon enough.

There's nothing wrong with an entertaining forum, I come here for a chuckle now and then. Grn and Hub make this place interesting and fun to visit, there's only so many oil threads I can take before screaming uncle.

A lot of my threads are controversial and thought provoking, so what? I could start a thread like let's see, "You're Motor Will Last Longer if You Change The Oil Occasionally". Nothing controversial there but also boring and provokes no independent thought. The lean angle thread brought out a lot of good commentary and provoked people to examine their beliefs, nothing wrong there IMHO.

* Last updated by: Kruz on 6/29/2012 @ 10:47 AM *

its highly entertaining when its clever and bitingly sharp, and witty, but when nasty personal attacks are the best retort, its a bit sad

Dogo wrote:

Do tell.

OK Dogo, I was bustin on Grn as much as anyone here after some of his caustic comments but then something changed all that. He revealed some things about his past that gave me pause, think back to the "Two Reasons Not to Buy a 14R " thread a few months ago. Not defending him here or making excuses for bad behavior but it's pretty apparent he was raised in an emotionally and possibly, a physically abusive early environment.

You have to understand where Grn is coming from and pass everything he says through that mental filter. If you do, he won't hit your trigger points anymore and you can feel some empathy towards him.

When the guy comes back (we all know he will), I hope he has gotten his hands on some good meds.

The bi-polar aspect of Grn's persona is what makes him who he is. With meds he won't be Grn anymore but some chemical abstraction.

Ditto with the Hubster, if we medicated him he wouldn't be the same Hub we've all come to know and love....well at least most of us anyway...lol!

Hub(2Know), good to see you haven't lost your touch, looks like your makin new friends over on the Tuono Forum..lol! Keep up the good work!

i aint posted on this forum for ages ...
but i do lurk about , u you "2know" sir . u are the weirdest , plantpot i ever come across on ANY site not just this one .
Your posts make NO FUKKIN SENSE at all ! get a grip !
take yer magic mushrooms elsewhere u fukkin jumped up weirdo

* Last updated by: Kruz on 6/29/2012 @ 12:52 PM *

Come on, Spy, loosen up.

..... ok I will lose the tie and suit jacket, but the collared shirt and cufflinks stay. I agree that some aspects of the site can be a bit dry and the topics aren't headline grabbers (but often are purposeful and useful). Please don't banish me to the oil threads..... Ok I will lose the cufflinks and unbutton the top 3 buttons on the collared shirt.

I think Motero has summed it up perfectly.

Spyglass

You have to understand where Grn is coming from and pass everything he says through that mental filter. If you do, he won't hit your trigger points anymore and you can feel some empathy towards him.

... will not happen. I don't buy into his bullshit. , you bumped 'em.

Fair enough Dogo but let me try approaching this from a different angle. We can't choose what happens to us, either good or bad but we can choose how we react to it. I've just chosen not to react to Grn anymore.

@Motero:

Beckett's "Endgame" seems slightly more appropriate here.

Fair enough Dogo but let me try approaching this from a different angle. We can't choose what happens to us, either good or bad but we can choose how we react to it. I've just chosen not to react to Grn anymore.

Fair enough as well... I think I did pretty well in that regard starting about the same time as you... OK, maybe a little after... Though, looking back, I could have done better. Tonguing a canker sore, so to speak.

* Last updated by: DogoZX on 6/29/2012 @ 3:14 PM *

It's all good Dogo, but this statement got me to thinking:

Your posts make NO FUKKIN SENSE at all ! get a grip !
take yer magic mushrooms elsewhere u fukkin jumped up weirdo

Is it possible the OP is on to something here? Could the whole Hub phenomenon be explained by something as simple as a case of some bad shrooms...lol! It certainly would explain a lot!

J/K Hubster...