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Thread: Cblasted = Proven Results

Created on: 10/12/14 03:45 PM

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maverick1441


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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/26/14 9:47 AM

To Gunshow: I started with the Don Guhl flash and Brock's map and I ended up with the CBLAST. Your absolutely right about bang for your buck with the setup that your thinking about. Seb has the perfect fueling for that specific exhaust and you won't have to spend $400 on a power commander (plus installation if your not a hands on guy). The CBLAST flash is a plug and play deal that you wont regret. Give him a call and let him explain what exactly happens during a flash.

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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/26/14 9:55 PM

I'm sold on it Mav... Thank you. Once I pay off Santa's Amex bill for the six kids, it's dad's turn! It hit 45 degrees today and it felt awesome to get out for a few miles. I cannot wait to do these mods.

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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 1:45 AM

mav; "Thanks guys but I went 8s last year"
So were you running cblast's flash last year too?



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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 9:40 AM

ZX14BEAST - "3rd gear wheelies at 140 mph on a zx14r with a full exhaust......hmmmm I'd like to see that one."

I can attest to that, and I've got 60lbs on Maverick. If I'm hammering the throttle while riding hard, I'll get the front end up in the first three gears.

I have no idea how the other flashes perform. Perhaps they're great, but I have no reason to find out.

I've only run the Cblast flash, and I couldn't be happier. Sebastian's method, combined with the skill and experience that Nels has, are all the assurance I need to know that I'm riding with a fully optimized ECU. My dyno numbers are exactly what I was expecting and what I was told to expect. My full review is somewhere around here.


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2016 ZX-14R SE ABS (Harambike) - Brock's Ti Dual CT, 2WDW Flash, double bubble windscreen, Givi Tanklock 15L with 12v outlet, SW Motech Quick-Lock Evo Contour rack with Givi V35 bags, SW Motech tail mount with Coocase Wizard top box, KAOKO cruise control, fender eliminator, Vortex rearsets, Vortex V3 fuel cap, Vortex spools, Stompgrips, PSR SBK passenger pegs, Helibars risers, R&G radiator guard, frame plugs, Starrotors 55w 6K HIDs, Brembo MC/Rotors/Calipers, braided steel brake lines. 204hp/120tq

2013 ZX14R (Mjölnir)- Brock's Ti CT Meg, 2WDW Flash. 202hp 119tq. RIP

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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 11:22 AM

Thanks for the post TRAILBOSS. At least you didn't call me a liar. I'm 59, 5'8", weigh 145-150 (after Christmas dinner-150) been riding bikes since I was 12, used to drag race. I know what this bike can do going from slip-ons to full exhaust with a good flash and a lightweight rider. It doesn't bore me anymore. I could care less if Hub or ZX14BEAST or anyone else doesn't believe me. I have no reason whatsoever to lie. All I was doing was trying to help someone out that had a question. Me and my big mouth! Won't happen again.


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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 12:36 PM

Mo, I didn't say you lied. I said it can't be that huge of leap of power. Moving flies open is a change, 'but to change riding habits???'



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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 1:40 PM

Zxbeast I appreciated the response along with trailboss. Too much good feedback to ignore that flash. I got in some more miles today. I filled her up and put the stabilizer in. I'm not anticipating too many more 50 degree days up here in the northeast.

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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 4:54 PM

I don't know... all I know is what my bike can do. Stage 1 turbo kit with stock swingarm = 3rd gear power wheelies at 130 kph at will on the highway. Bike with Pipe, PCV and flash = not a chance in hell. Oh and for what it's worth, I was 173lbs when I was running the bike with Full exhaust, PCV and Flash - so by no means a fat ass. It would do 2nd gear power wheelies at 110 kph stab, but not in 3rd. There is no way in the world that bike would stand up full mast from stabbing the gas in 3rd... sorry.


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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 5:14 PM

I suppose you'll need to try a little harder, cowboy. Your inability to get or keep it up on your own ride has no bearing on anyone else's experience with theirs.

Perhaps that's the reason you felt the need for boost? A bit of compensation for some perceived inadequacy?


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2016 ZX-14R SE ABS (Harambike) - Brock's Ti Dual CT, 2WDW Flash, double bubble windscreen, Givi Tanklock 15L with 12v outlet, SW Motech Quick-Lock Evo Contour rack with Givi V35 bags, SW Motech tail mount with Coocase Wizard top box, KAOKO cruise control, fender eliminator, Vortex rearsets, Vortex V3 fuel cap, Vortex spools, Stompgrips, PSR SBK passenger pegs, Helibars risers, R&G radiator guard, frame plugs, Starrotors 55w 6K HIDs, Brembo MC/Rotors/Calipers, braided steel brake lines. 204hp/120tq

2013 ZX14R (Mjölnir)- Brock's Ti CT Meg, 2WDW Flash. 202hp 119tq. RIP

2008 Kawasaki ZX-10R trackfighter - Yoshimura R55, PCV, Servo Eliminator, Traxxion AK20 Cartridges, Penske Triple Clicker shock, EBC HH pads, Pirelli Superbike SC2 slicks, custom subframe, RSV4 tail, Ignition relocate, KX450F number plate, Apex adjustable clipons, CRG levers, Lever guards, Vortex rearsets, Stomp Grips, XT Lap Timer. 188hp, and not as much tq as the 14R!

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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 5:46 PM

ROFL..... Make some video of you pulling a power wheelie in 3rd for me to see.... then I'll eat my hat.
I put a turbo on my bike because it's stock power got old pretty fast. I like to climb off the bike and shake knowing that it scared me a little. That's what I call an adrenaline rush.

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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 6:04 PM

ROFL..... Make some video of you pulling a power wheelie in 3rd for me to see.... then I'll eat my hat.
I put a turbo on my bike because it's stock power got old pretty fast. I like to climb off the bike and shake knowing that it scared me a little. That's what I call an adrenaline rush.

Only if you promise to make a video of you eating the hat.

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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 6:07 PM

Just like all the other naysayers around here.

Your inability to perform a given action doesn't compel me to substantiate my abilities for you. I'm confident in my skills and have no reason to fabricate or lie.



2016 ZX-14R SE ABS (Harambike) - Brock's Ti Dual CT, 2WDW Flash, double bubble windscreen, Givi Tanklock 15L with 12v outlet, SW Motech Quick-Lock Evo Contour rack with Givi V35 bags, SW Motech tail mount with Coocase Wizard top box, KAOKO cruise control, fender eliminator, Vortex rearsets, Vortex V3 fuel cap, Vortex spools, Stompgrips, PSR SBK passenger pegs, Helibars risers, R&G radiator guard, frame plugs, Starrotors 55w 6K HIDs, Brembo MC/Rotors/Calipers, braided steel brake lines. 204hp/120tq

2013 ZX14R (Mjölnir)- Brock's Ti CT Meg, 2WDW Flash. 202hp 119tq. RIP

2008 Kawasaki ZX-10R trackfighter - Yoshimura R55, PCV, Servo Eliminator, Traxxion AK20 Cartridges, Penske Triple Clicker shock, EBC HH pads, Pirelli Superbike SC2 slicks, custom subframe, RSV4 tail, Ignition relocate, KX450F number plate, Apex adjustable clipons, CRG levers, Lever guards, Vortex rearsets, Stomp Grips, XT Lap Timer. 188hp, and not as much tq as the 14R!

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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 6:38 PM

Vic ... you made me laugh... Guys, it's just after Christmas, let's just agree to disagree, and leave it at that..... lol

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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 6:59 PM

Let's see. Change riding habits. With the slip-ons I could nail it in 1st and when the rpm's got up it would eventually flip over backwards if I wouldn't let off (this is with the flies removed) . With the full exhaust and CBlast flash if I nail it in 1st the tire starts smoking instantly, no lift off. 2nd gear about 60 - front wheel comes off the ground and the tire breaks loose (ask the 18 year old kid on the Harley Night Rod that was messing with me. Old guy on a Ninja = easy prey). 3rd gear at 100 mph - nail it (I don't remember saying anything about a stand up wheelie) the front wheel comes off the ground maybe a few inches. You can feel it when it touches down again after shifting to 4th. Let off, look at the speedometer and read 140. Then you tell yourself that this thing is absolutely unreal. It's a completely different bike. So, change riding habits? You bet. I have a lot of experience riding bikes. I had to get used to the power change so I wouldn't get caught unaware and find myself sliding down the pavement. Believe it? It doesn't matter. I did it many times and I know it's a fact.
Oh, and thanks ZX14BEAST. Merry Christmas to you, too


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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 6:59 PM

Just like all the other naysayers around here.

I am not about to discount Mo as if saying that all those years Ivan was receiving the same 'smiles for miles' comments and his results. If Smoke/Mav/Grn/Mo/who did I leave out has been giving props to Cblast, I'm not about to naysay there are smiles in those camps. Has a generation passed on from pc to flash I don't know? Only the summer time blues will show said results and find how their 'inadequacies' pan out.

Your inability to perform a given action doesn't compel me to substantiate my abilities for you. I'm confident in my skills and have no reason to fabricate or lie.

My inability to drift around a corner does not compel me to light up the camera and show that to you. I'm confident in my skills and have no reason to pull your leg and admit I'm not going there says all the residuals from the other antics of skilling ability is you go for it.

Perhaps that's the reason you felt the need for boost? A bit of compensation for some perceived inadequacy?

Perhaps that's why you felt the need to run to the mailbox and plug in that ball booster box? Am I to perceive you lack an inadequacy and needed to compensate for fill in the blank kit statement?


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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 7:07 PM

Perhaps that's why you felt the need to run to the mailbox and plug in that ball booster box? Am I to perceive you lack an inadequacy and needed to compensate for fill in the blank kit statement?

8hp with the booster box was nice, but I still couldn't power wheelie in 3rd and I've ridden the Cblast flash.

Enjoy your 8hp and have a nice day. ROFL.

After sampling the 8hp I added an additional 300hp and I thought that would make things interesting.... I figured that would cover all inadequacies.

Hubs you better play nice or these boys will have you kicked outta here again....


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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 7:19 PM

Mo, I'm going to give you an example of my swapping out pipes/gutting pipes/4-in-1/no flies/with flies/this hack/that hack... Same routine and one day remaining in some sort of tune and ignoring the setting, wow, I won't do that again.

So after routine after routine, one tune caught up with me. It's not that I had to change any riding habit, but be more aware of the setting or state of tune I had it in. Now, I'm not questioning your riding ability once you own one of these puppies. I'm saying you got caught out on too much on the same road, same routine, and then oops!

How close am I to thinking that of me thinking you had maybe a poor choice of words that are more of watt I am spitting out and all those tests I've gone thru.



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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 7:26 PM

Hubs you better play nice or these boys will have you kicked outta here again...

Come one... you can't be serious. Squeaky brakes and riding inadequacies? And don't forget the mailbox!



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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 7:30 PM

"Yeah, winter is going fast"...too fast...we're all just gettin warmed up here;) I never could quite understand why some don't make some videos of their stuff...not to be like.."ooooo...I'm so cool" like that I mean...but just to have something to 'study' from.A guy can see alot of things in a video he may not realize when riding.If that makes sense.

Even if they were to 'show off' so to speak...that'd still be okay.I'd like to see some 3rd gear wheelies on the 14 as well...I have a hard time getting my frontend to lift in second(it's NOT the flash holding me back)...but then again...I really DON'T know how to do that safely..I don't want to wreck my bike going overboard(the flash WOULD allow that easily).I have gotten my front up in 2nd...but not crazy high...I watch Ricky Gadson lift his 14R...ride down the road(track)(not racing I mean)..shifting...I don't have a clue how he's doing that..and his bike just stays up without even dropping or raising at all....Guess ya either got it,or ya don't?

There is something to be said about..."had to learn" ...I get that statement.But as Hub says...it wasn't like...OMG...I gotta REALLY watch my ass here(though it COULD be).Maybe IF I went out and just went crazy with the throttle an shit...tried as hard as possible to get twisted up...maybe.My flash however IS a nice departure from factory.It definitely made me think a bit more about what I can do when out there railing.And NOT do.I don't ride with the KTRC on 1...there are some circumstances I'm not willing to push to the very limit.Not with my flash.Actually...with this flash...I'm not even really hitting the limits as to what I KNOW it could really do....too many hospital stays for me...and replacing beautiful motorcycles...

With C's flash...she definitely WILL pop up much quicker...trying to gauge that lift for me isn't easy.Having the KTRC on 1 doesn't always help to stop her from climbing....out of control...that's how fast it happens.It's not like the factory setup...it doesn't always react quick enough when the front starts to loft.And I don't like relying on KTRC to 'help' me learn how to safely loft...


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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 8:24 PM

Happy holidays everyone!


And thanks for all the positive comments! Beast, puttering around at your old lady pace doesnt amount to 'riding', the flash. lol.



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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 8:29 PM

Thats swb. Congrats Mav! Absolutely awesome job man! Unparalleled fast!



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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 9:08 PM

ahem.



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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 9:40 PM

CBlast - you're right ... my puttering is your WOT..... lol

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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 10:48 PM

Well you guys know I have done no Flash testing lately .. I have been sick and not able to ride .. But I do have two friends that roll on race each other weekly ..For the most part the run neck and neck or whoever get the jump wins .. Bikes are set up the same but two different flashes and tunes .. One of these guys is a very close friend and reads these posts , he has asked me if there is anything in the cblast flash that may help him stay out in front of his friend ..I told him I believe so ..He asked why I wasn't going any faster with the cblast flash on the drag strip and I told him why .. But I felt strongly it would help him in everyday day riding and roll on type racing ..So I asked him to give it a try and he said ok ..I pulled my ECU out of my bike and put it in his ..I said keep it for a few weeks and run your friend as many times as you can and get back to me. I even asked him to do some 3rd 4th and 5th gear rolls from 60 MPH and see what happens and he agreed .. All but one time he beat his friend , the one time he lost he missed a gear ..Now keep in mind he didn't run away and hide from him but he did manage to pull out in front and slowly pull away just a bit.. The high gear roll on was telling also ..He would start pulling away slowly , again not driving away but slowly inching away from his friend . They repeated this over and over and the same thing happened over and over from speeds of 60 to about 180 .. This was just what I had figured would happen after I tested the flash at the drag strip myself .. I felt the bike in the low RPMs pull cleaner ( harder ) , top end pull was the same ..My back half numbers bare this out in testing . As stated before I use very very little of the mid range power at the drag strip so I saw no gain .. But I knew on the street it would be very useful ..My friends testing proved it worked even if it was just a small advantage it was still a advantage .. A win is a win even if it just a few feet or a bike length ..

I should put this out there , there are problems with some of the Bin files in woolichs programs .. Reports of codes being tossed after some time of the bike running just fine.. This codes are popping up out of the thin blue air with no reason ..It's hit or miss if you will have a problem .. It's kind of a roll of the dice with these flashes ..I believe the flashes themselves are ok and solid but the software or bin files have some bugs ..We are just finding out that Kawi used many many different ECUs Part numbers for each year model ZX14R ..Just a word of caution to those thinking of getting a flash.. 900.00 bucks for a replacement ECU is a big price to pay if things go wrong.. I know Rick Romans has spent hours and hours for free and a butt load of money to find what is going wrong with these ECUs flashes .. I'm not saying don't get your ECU flashed but just be warned there are some problems popping up..



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RE: Cblasted = Proven Results
12/27/14 11:40 PM

Any idea where these problems are rooted?


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