and obviously you are not as astute on islam, christianity or Judaism

No I'm not, was never my claim.

your post seems to be from ignorance and hate

No hate within me. Need only to read above to know who hates who. Tell me I'm wrong.

* Last updated by: Romans on 6/25/2012 @ 4:49 PM *

Oh ok! i get it when you created this topic CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS you where trying to promote peace love and tolerance, you said "Therefore after much study and deliberation, perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country.
They obviously cannot be both "good" Muslims and good Americans"
"Women are dirt to them"
then you mentioned the incident with your wife. Dude its a big world out there, with many religions and cultures, when your secure with your own, you dont knock others

you said "Therefore after much study and deliberation, perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country.
They obviously cannot be both "good" Muslims and good Americans"
"Women are dirt to them"

Highlighted in blue are Quotes from others, maybe you didn't know ?

then you mentioned the incident with your wife.

Yep, she is crushed, still. What did she do to deserve that, better yet would You have done the same????, do you think my wife did something wrong ? If so do tell your thoughts, I'm all ears. Educate me.

Dude its a big world out there, with many religions

What does religion have to do with being a Dick ? You don't treat women or anyone like that, Ever. If you do expect bad press.

when your secure with your own, you dont knock others

Security in Religion will never be my issue. Ignorance was bliss. The world is becoming more aware, as am I.

Soulshaker I was really hoping you would point out something positive.

* Last updated by: Romans on 6/24/2012 @ 6:06 AM *

you said "Therefore after much study and deliberation, perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country.
They obviously cannot be both "good" Muslims and good Americans"
"Women are dirt to them"
[*] this is in your post , you post it you own it!!
[*] sorry your wife was insulted, what was the point of pointing out they where muslim, was that the first time you and your wife every been insulted?

"The world is becoming more aware, as am I"
if you truly want to become more aware, i would advise you to visit a local mosque and ask questions

As far as me pointing out something positive,I was responding to your original post CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS, I was pointing out the misrepresentations in your post, you have yet to back up any of these things you have posted

another quote from your post CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS
"Intellectually - no. . . . Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles, and he believes the Bible to be corrupt"
no where in the Quran does it say the bible is corrupt,
SO to answer your question "CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS"there have been muslims in this country all most since its founding and present,they have contributed in many positive ways.

in closing i pray that ALLAH (the same GOD in the Bible and Jewish scripture)open your eyes heart and mind to truth

Is This Below Ok ?

True Story; About 2 years ago my wife was in Shoppers Drugmart and a Muslim women came around the corner and banged her cart into my wifes cart. No biggy right? Wrong, my wife says sorry even though it's not her fault. Just being polite of course..... This is where things go BAD. The women in her Garb turns in fear and speeds off around the next aisle as fast as she can. This is where it gets weird. My wife continues in the same direction only to feel the presence of a man behind her. She turns to find this nut bar Muslim Man in a Rage pressing in nose against hers but won't speak... We now understand what my wife did wrong was, get this, She spoke to the women. This is not aloud. You must address the Man FIRST, before you can speak to the women. Who knew? Now this is Canada, is this man not supposed to respect our ways? Well after a 6 min stare down my wife was terrified and left the store. When I got there, he was long gone. Lucky 4 us both, because I would have shoved that dagger that they are allowed to carry in their socks right up his ass. It's Ok , I'm not bitter. This was a long time ago, but what saddens me is the fact that we will soon be surrounded with kind of crap every day and there is nothing we can do about it. It's just not right. None of this hit home for me until I looked at the demographics thread. What did they say 25 years ? Italy 9 years. My kids will have to prepare to be treated like shit. Whatcha think ?

sorry your wife was insulted, what was the point of pointing out they where muslim, was that the first time you and your wife every been insulted?

I am in shock with your feelings, as I knew I would be. You are most certainly not sorry about anything. You believe what my wife did she should be punished. And to Answer your Question it was the fist time she was insulted for saying Excuse me in our country.

in closing i pray that ALLAH

I hope he can save you I really do. Cheers

shake your saber? Ever see that video of the office pulling over a muslim? Have a nice day and the 3 stepper rams it in reverse and up the officers ass? I mean the car with the video cam heard camelherpeaspeaking, the infidels how dare day and everyday gets closer your camelpoopay gain day is going to be know ass the shopping cart wars is wait for use is at the grocery stores and no more muzzy is where did day go?

You have these minute men is as soon as the minutes go bye is scarf them up? No more treason yeast IS? Dis is an act of war? The 3 pillars of taking over the dumb stupid infidels? Wink-Wink!

Who do I join? ass in the monkeys in the trees. Yelling at my shopping cart.

In the Quran it shows two different versions of the Prophet. First one is kind and merciful, second one is fire and brimstone.

First one exorts Muslims to be forgiving, to not hurt any living thing, and to forsake all for Allah.

It is the second version I and many non-Muslims are worried about. The one which distinctly calls forth the faithful to convert the Infidel, and when converted, to make a slave of him. And if he won't convert, to kill him. This is explicit.

I know this because I have studied the Quran, and I was member of a faith which was Islamic but not Muslim, and is rejected as heretics by all true Muslims. I left the sect when I realized that all organized religions, no matter what they believe, continue to put flawed men in positions of absolute power, which I am certain God, no matter what name you call him/her/it, does not approve of.

And oh yes, writings that predate both the Bible and the Quran call the unknowable, unnameable, Him/Her/It because, as they say, if He/She/It is unknowable, how could we put a human gender or title to Him/Her/It.

The Prophet chose not to deal with this fact, and the First Council of Nicaea (325AD) decided to consoldate God into a masculine Father image and modeled the Pope after it. Again, placing flawed men in positions of absolute power.

I believe in a power across an unknowable abyss which has an unknowable role in my life. Beyond that, I refuse to think anyone else should be beholden to what I believe. And I refuse to help any organized religion force their beliefs on any individual, by proxy or by direct action.

Just sic the blood or the cript on those that sold them. Why is the black man here so far away? Muzzy got their way. Same old shit will happen today... Unlessssssssssssssss LOLOLOL

Muzzy is your class sick 'runner uppers' Cry and stammer like children till they get their way. If you showed how they are dis sea peer ring is that ringtone? Call to arms is snap theirs is now bring that blade forward... You just had to swing your dick with that mow hammy shit.

Atheist have killed more religious fee gnat ticks than those crying camelpoopers with some ass on a white whore says ass you believe in that propaganda war book. It IS as simple to read war book. First two pages say it all. There rest say, and your mother, her mothers mother and me mothers toenail sales is mother of the toe jam it up your ass you have to be stupid not to see a written war book with rules to follow.

Mirror that following is OOPSEAS! Backacha! Fire is the fear is can't be burned is one fear. You have to leave with your cody attached and do you now get the prop pay gain day is try it! Until the dumb infidel sees it... Your cook is goosed!

* Last updated by: Hub on 6/25/2012 @ 9:08 AM *

Hub, sometimes you might as well not write anything, because your two posts above are absolute meaningless rubbish with no bearing on reality in any way.

Sorry, man, I like ya, but bullshit is bullshit.

PRIVATEEER. thanks for the dialogue, you seem to come from a position of a honest opinion, i think you can find contradictions in all religious writings, but God gives us all free will to chose your own path.
I think people should be able to have a intelligent discussion, without childishley knocking someones beliefs
if someone was to post nonsense about any religon CAN ---- BE AGOOD AMERICAN ,i would take the same stance,
Back up what you say!

Priv??? YOu walked away from the faith... It is man made and you walked away... Therefore, where is the word of your gods?

The brits are submitting to shithere laws. You are slowly being submitters >>> silence or no?

Islameansubmission. It was the crazyness of you thinking that your questions would be answered. To think any religion would help your mortal condition. What is your fear? YOu need to be "SAVED" or a place for sexual pleasures? Tell me I'm crazy is show you how violent your world is.

Give you what you want is moe lick it! Take that pea brain of the whold on to your ankles and wait for it. Not a thing you can do. No man's vision of his world is part of my world... Is that what pisses most off is I have to conform to your ways?

I see your ways is no way hose say is yours in the dirt come get some!

Where is Grn? I want to hear what he has to say on this topic! He can walk the tech butt can he talk the tech?

from a position of a honest opinion

My opinions are honest of that I assure you. I am currently surrounded by Muslims where I live. They have changed the street signs and are now building the area's biggest mosque.

Lol, I have to wait to wash my hands in the bathrooms, because, for some unknown reason to me, your people see the need to wash their feet in the sink Grrrrrrrrr. In our Country that is frowned upon by the way. Or was Lol

If you would have read the entire post you would would have found this quote(below)at the bottom and realized this is a E-Mail that is being passed around. I found it to be interesting due to my present situation so I posted it. So in your words, yes I now own it. I have no shame.

Wake up America ! PLEASE, please pass this to all in your address book.

I am learning lots about your religion, not that I wanted to. I for one still judge a person by his or actions not what book he has in his hand. So if your people are promoting hatred around the world all eyes will soon be watching. As am I. Cheers.

* Last updated by: Romans on 6/25/2012 @ 3:08 PM *

First one exorts Muslims to be forgiving, to not hurt any living thing, and to forsake all for Allah.

It is the second version I and many non-Muslims are worried about. The one which distinctly calls forth the faithful to convert the Infidel, and when converted, to make a slave of him. And if he won't convert, to kill him. This is explicit.

Private you are clearly well read on these matters. I on the other hand most certainly am not. Simple People with all this being forced upon us is all. So as you can guess Not Happy.

What is an infidel? Boys I had to look it up, this is how little I know on the subject. I just found out I'm Not One, phew lol

Good find Romes... thanx!

They are immigrating in massive numbers into Europe and creating parallel Muslim culture, no blending in. It is destroying the culture there that has evolved over centuries.
It is a disturbing phenomenon.

They are immigrating in massive numbers into Europe and creating parallel Muslim culture

Kruz when you say "they" what do you mean ? Infidels.

No!

http://usabig.com/iindv/articles_stand/islam_terr/maggots2.php

It's happening everywhere in the west.

Some ask "what can be done to save Europe", Answer nothing, it is already too late!

Answer? Waste the female war machines. Take out the scarfs. Be a minuteman. YOu stopped an act of treason. Make a law... "They looked treason yeast" is I shot her. It was too much of a western infection. LOLOL

Some ask "what can be done to save Europe", Answer nothing, it is already too late!

Yep, my boss is from England, left trying to out run it. Now it's happening here. I just sold my house in a effort to buy myself another 5 years of peace. Adds 20 minutes to my drive into work but we felt we had no choice. I'm not the only one running I can assure you. Most people are blind to how fast things can change until it happens all around them. Then like you said to late.

Good find Romes... thanx!

Hagrid, I thought a infidel was ANY person who did not pray to Allah. So, up till now I thought I was one Lol. What a relief. The quote below from Private disturbing to say the least.

It is the second version I and many non-Muslims are worried about. The one which distinctly calls forth the faithful to convert the Infidel, and when converted, to make a slave of him. And if he won't convert, to kill him. This is explicit.