http://youtu.be/SBP37Sk1mgU

Vicious...

Silver frame, more flake? A 1-off for RG?

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Everyone thinks his bike is special but you can buy one. Just have to get the race model or wait to have special parts for your street version and pay for them. Could the cams be that different or is it just hype? Is it mostly more boost? I'm thinking pipe and re-tune the ecu will be enough for most. Which brings us to will these bikes continue to be sold? I have never seen a bike maker especially from japan decide not to sell a bike if there is demand. The deadline comes and goes but as time goes on more want it will they say no we are done go buy something else. But then the claim is all special built at this one factory will that be kept in place? What is the point of all this marketing hype for a one time offer. To keep price up I see them having future runs but perhaps not special production hand built models maybe cheaper paint and such. Why also give RG a special street one for showcase of potential when they could have handed him a race model? They obviously want to sell many street versions because how many race ones are really going to be sold. For sure the racing crowd which won't be buying a fancy paint job bike in a week by dec 19.

* Last updated by: kawnow on 12/11/2014 @ 8:44 PM *

Thanks Hub for the assist;)

Anyone notice his shift into first there?WHEEEEEEEE!

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 12/11/2014 @ 10:14 PM *

Grn

Okay... here we go...

2012 ZX14R Best ET 8.43 Best MPH 164.95 (165 call it) = "The Hand" Job
2015 H2 cold track first time out: 166.?? 8:12 = RG

Besides watching one shitty editing job, what a slow piecesayshit street bike. Someone tell Rickey to pull the intake scoop and see what blade they screwed on? Is it that detuned water pump blade or is it running the fulcrum flier?

Could the cams be that different or is it just hype?

Cams play a big nasty, crispy critter, get out the way, way of a change.

Is it mostly more boost?

Yes. Think of it like how much ass muscle you need to hold in the pressure. Crank down the ass, more boost... crank down pop-off spring in the valve = more boost.

But then the claim is all special built at this one factory will that be kept in place?

This puts out more power so better parts are not at this level for a cheaper made production run. Eventually the metallurgy will catch up with power and don't forget it's cheaper to make with the price of oil these days.

What is the point of all this marketing hype for a one time offer.

Again, it's an engineering exercise. The application was toward the street ride. It's just a matter of price to build. Like anything else, in time it will come down to an everyman bike like the 14 was.

Why also give RG a special street one for showcase of potential when they could have handed him a race model?

This might be the backdoor out the door price and RG may have paid out of pocket for one, who knows? 50k is a lot of [budget] money just to run part of the season, no? So 50k out of pocket may be too much even at the backdoor price?

They obviously want to sell many street versions because how many race ones are really going to be sold.

Ask the trackday boys and girls who are out there riding bikes? They are well off old farts with money. I have no clue if there was a huge order or they met their quota or surpassed it? But you'll see a few out there and about, if not the 1/4 mile, mile, and LSR'inn.

* Last updated by: Hub on 12/11/2014 @ 11:57 PM *

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Well...I guess I did buy a dog....oh well...live and learn...

Hold on Grn. 3/10 second isn't anything to sneeze at. That's a couple bike lengths in a race. We don't know what happens after the quarter mile yet. There will be mods. Engine parts, waste gates, that sort of thing. There has to be. Would Kaw go and make a street version just for posers? I can't believe that. They left some loopholes for us.

Notice Ricky is using an H2R pipe. Apparently there's more than that to getting the most out of this bike. Like I thought, no way Kaw would make a street version that would approach the potential of the race bike without H2 oners spending $$$. That would devalue the race bike.

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Drag times and 1/4 miles don't actually mean much to me...I'm a Joe A.I bought this bike just to have the SC and the size of a literbike...been wanting a literbike for some time...just didn't quite fit the 10R...this is supposed to be somewhat more relaxed than the 10.The weight is fine with me...I didn't really want a high powered 470 lb bike under me.It's only for fun...something different.Something high tech and quality...I know Kawasaki delivers..if for some reason I don't like it...I'll sell it...simple.Yeah...I'll take a loss...I can live with that...It'll never replace my 14R...NOTHING rides like the 14R;)

I do think however...I'll be making the 200MPH club...if only here and unknown...sa'll good.;)It really is a great sportbike IMO...but then...WTF do I know?Can't really go wrong with the trick components on it(in it).I really don't think this bike is gonna be just like the other new literbikes out there...with a bit more punch...I think it's gonna be very fun.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 12/12/2014 @ 8:23 AM *

I need to correct myself. Silver frame, 50k budget, 8.12, and oh look, an H2R pipe, no winkers, it's not a street H2, but an Rdee Har-Har the fuck?!?!?

It's a 300 hp bike and only 1 mph and 2 10ths of a second difference? I don't give a shit how hot the track is, that is one slow bike!

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"It makes 292 horsepower to the rear wheel on pump gas. KHI is very smart. They are never going to run anything on the edge. When we checked the air-fuel ratio, it was 11.3 to 11.4. That’s how rich they had it. They had to make sure it’s safe enough for anybody who gets their hands on it to not blow it up. We knew from racing my turbo bike that we can lean it out quite a bit more than that. So we took the air-fuel ratio to about 12.2 and picked up 30 horsepower. With the leaner mixture and improved airflow, we went from 269 horsepower to 292. If you equate that to crankshaft horsepower, that would be around 320 horsepower".

"For that test, I brought along my 2015 ZX-14R, set up the same exact way, with stock wheelbase and lowered, that’s it. Everything else was factory. Did the same thing to the H2. The ZX-14R ran a 9.16 at 149 mph. The H2, with H2R pipes and ECU tuning very similar to the H2R’s, went 9.16 at 160. That’s 11 mph better!

Most people will say that’s not enough difference given the extra cost of the bike. But let’s not forget this fact: With the 14, I can lock the throttle in first gear. On the H2, I can’t lock the throttle until fourth gear. If you were to do a side by side run, the ZX-14 would pull away from the H2 until the eighth mile, but in the second half of the run the H2 would catch the ZX-14R by the finish line".

"People keep commenting about how heavy the H2 is. They’re appalled that it’s listed as 530 lb. I will say this: I never believed the bike was that heavy, so I pulled it onto a scale. In completely stock trim (no carbon, except where the mirrors and wings are), my bike weighed 475 lb. stock, with a gallon of gas".

"People will say this bike isn’t all that fast. But I haven’t had the H2 long enough. For the bike to run a 9.16 in stock configuration, without being able to open the throttle until fourth gear, at beyond half track, this bike has so much potential. It’s much better than anything else I’ve ever ridden".

"When I first drag-tested the H2, I really felt like an amateur. It was pissing me off. The bike was so powerful it intimidated me".

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 12/12/2014 @ 8:53 AM *

Well...I guess I did buy a dog....oh well...live and learn...

The H will still be faster than the 14. You bought the quickest accelerating bike out there. Puffer is King! Ask the turboys about accelerating.

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LOL...."I don't give a shit how hot the track is, that is one slow bike!"...."People will say this bike isn’t all that fast. But I haven’t had the H2 long enough. For the bike to run a 9.16 in stock configuration, without being able to open the throttle until fourth gear, at beyond half track, this bike has so much potential. It’s much better than anything else I’ve ever ridden".
"When I first drag-tested the H2, I really felt like an amateur. It was pissing me off. The bike was so powerful it intimidated me".

"I don't think ANYBODY has the ability to build a bike with the potential of the H2R OR H2"...

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 12/12/2014 @ 9:27 AM *

Those times will be dropping fast once he gets use to it, he's was just playing with it, to run
9.16 stock wheelbase, 8.20 stretched, without even opening the throttle full until 4th gear, tells of the massive acceleration
This bike is capable of, he pretty much pegs the 14 in first, Grn you are going to LOVE this
Bike once you sort it out, cams boost or whatever it takes, Have Fun !!!

* Last updated by: carabuser on 12/12/2014 @ 9:43 AM *

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Thanks Cara...I think it will be a lot of fun to get out and run these roads here...great roads for a bike like this..or my 14;)

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 12/12/2014 @ 11:35 AM *

Well I'm glad a boardie is getting one right away so we can get some real world honest to god feedback.

"I don't think ANYBODY has the ability to build a bike with the potential of the H2R OR H2"... "

Hmmmm...I'm not so sure about that. Superchargers are old technology, over 100years old in fact. The supercharged MB W125's of 1937 are legendary. Kawasaki maybe the first to build a production road bike with a SC but that doesn't necessarily mean no one else has the ability/technology. It will be interesting to see if and how other manufacturers respond.

If the H2 Ricky Gadson rode is still standard then the times/speeds are about right IMO, given the power/torque/weight of the bike so I wouldn't be too disappointed personally if I was buying one.

* Last updated by: pegscraper on 12/12/2014 @ 12:23 PM *

Article here...on cycleworld:"On The Record: Rickey Gadson"

It will be faster than a 14R, like I been saying all along it would have been financial suicide if KHI launched a bike that was slower than the existing model and cost $10K more. Will it sell at that price point is another question that only the market can answer. I know I'm out, $25K is too much for me to spend but someone will buy it, that you can be sure of.

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I knew it would be faster too. Just not sure by how much. Judging by street estimates 225hp & 450lbs there was no doubt. Stock vs. stock, at 200 hp and 530 lbs the numbers are still in H2's favor overall.

It's a mute point anyway even if it was slower, it's still the new flagship. Still think it's ugly though.

You guys are missing something. Take a closer look at RG's bike. It's an H2R, not an H2. It should destroy a 14. Something is going on here.

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What's throwing me off is a british rag says H2R and Rickey says H2 in the cycleworld article and that designation. Then Rickey points out 290 hp so it turns out to be an R, not the H2.
I have a prototype without safety valves, can't pin the throttle until 5th gear? So is this a loaner bike without interventions?

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RG - "It's hard to ride!" I would hope so.

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OK... here we go. Paraphrase: 'I have non-carbon-fiber fairing parts. I have a 1-off bike from the factory [assume] and if these are plastic parts, I can pull a cover off, see the yr/production run these plastic parts will have as in lifespan there of' >>> Finds the ending year... HELLO!!!?? RG!??! You've got the answer!

So now I'm going to assume they use a headlight for the soon to be cheaper production puffer.

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You guys...It's a factory H2 with the H2R winglets.It also has the H2R internals...the cams,clutch and Head gasket...that's all.Nothing mysterious."One off"...yeah...the paint...and the motor factory mods that can be obtained(probably)from Kawasaki.The swingarm and all that are his doing(of course).The FIRST bike he rode in Japan was without electronic aids.Didn't ya'll read that review? He probably got the H2 model so he could ride the thing on the street if he wanted to.(headlamp,switch out the winglets for the factory Turn Signals).

This bike aint no different model wise(name wise) than the 14's...shit...they STILL call the pre-2012's a 14R....look on almost any non-kawasaki parts store...'14R,14R,14R'....no wonder guys get the wrong stuff...same with the H2.Sa'll ready all fucked up...even the rags can't get it right...

So...bottom line...it's an H2...that's what it is.With the H2R motor mods.

Love that weight test;)I gotta say...my 14R beat his on the weight dept though.Mine weighed in at 520 with half tank fuel;)

I predict...the H2 owners WILL be allowed to purchase the H2R internals....

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 12/13/2014 @ 8:48 AM *