So are we free to 'Ho this thread now?

Page 8, Bitches!

Wow, this is quite the shitstorm... I'm stuck on page 4 where Hub said "all you need is a front brake". I bought into that Keith Code theory years ago, but found that I'm faster with some rear brake when I need it, mostly when I'm charging hard out of a corner. A bit of rear brake settles the chassis and I get less wiggling. It's also my wheelie control, and helps when I'm stopped at a light and want to take my hands off the grips.

I have seen this scenario play out in the drag scene. Street racers are all "Bro you don't have what it takes out here, it's different on the streets". My response: "So how much are we doing this for?"

8's and i buy drinks, mav.

Which one of my 8 second tickets do you want to see?

all of them!

Mav, that is awesome.

Do you have a list of your mods anywhere? I'm not into drag racing, but I'd be interested to see the mod path that's helping you achieve these results.

I have seen this scenario play out in the drag scene. Street racers are all "Bro you don't have what it takes out here, it's different on the streets". My response: "So how much are we doing this for?"

EXACTLY!!! THANK YOU MAV!! Again my quote.

Seriously, I know a LOT of good STREET guys that get weak at the knees on their first track experience! It just takes you into a layer that riding on the street can't take you!

A great street rider doesn't necessarily equate to a good track rider. I've seen it too many times. It doesn't mean they won't be but it's not a guarantee. It's just a different environment that not everyone can make the adjustment to. However, I've never seen a really good track rider that had THAT much trouble making the adjustment over to the street. I'm sure there are those that will argue my thoughts on that so before THAT get's started I'm just saying, that's way I'VE always seen it.

Sic

* Last updated by: sickninja on 7/24/2014 @ 9:26 PM *

Here's one that I happen to have handy. I have been 8.97, 8.98, and 8.99. I can't tell you how many 9.00s - 9.05s I have in a pile.

Mods are lowered front and back, front end strap, Brock's Alien Head 2 full system, and an air shifter. I have been in the 9.0s without an air shifter and can't definitively say that it did or didn't help my times any, BUT I will say that it brings a higher level of the 1-2 shift consistency. Sometimes someone will stipulate that I have to foot shift the bike and I just grin and ask how much. I use OEM clutches and a Shinko Hook-Up drag radial. I recently had Seb flash my ECU and I picked up several top end mph since that 8.97 ticket. I feel confident that when the humidity passes I will be able to smash out a low 8.90 and beyond with the CBLAST flash.

So to sum it up TB... You take a bone stock 14R, lower it, strap it, slap an exhaust system on it, CBLAST it, and head to the track. It's all in the wrist. :)

That's some damned fine work, man. Definitely squeezing the potential out of your machine!

Not exactly apples to apples, but I was similarly impressed with the 14R's out-of-the-box performance on a road course. With some minor suspension tweaks, decent tires, pipe and flash it's a surprisingly handy machine out there with the repli-racers!

I can't wait to get some Vortex rearsets and gain a bit more cornering clearance. Not only do the stock rubber units hang up early, but they are SHIT for feedback and feel.

* Last updated by: TRAILBOSS on 7/25/2014 @ 9:36 AM *

A great street rider doesn't necessarily equate to a good track rider.

I've seen it too many times. It doesn't mean they won't be but it's not a guarantee.

It's just a different environment that not everyone can make the adjustment to.

However, I've never seen a really good track rider that had THAT much trouble making the adjustment over to the street. I'm sure there are those that will argue my thoughts on that so before THAT get's started I'm just saying, that's way I'VE always seen it.

Takes a certain breed to run up front. And once the lap or practice times close, the rest of the field knows where they stand. So there is more [a head game] to racing or going fast on a daytrack environment is my thought. Because if you have the bike that can run up front, more HP than the field has, add years of experience... Is it or isn't it... the fry is missing, yes or no?

Mav, It was only a matter of time when you flashed that 9.0 ticket. We get into the math, I'll screw up the formula. So, does a lower RT compute to a faster ET? My guess is no, but I'll find out soon enough.

Hub you can sit on the line for an hour and still run the same time. Timing doesn't start until you move.

Nasty,

We are on identical bikes, same hp, same setup, same body weight, we are so mirror in every way. When both tree lights are equal on the drop, my RT is going to count in inches, you run a .6000 and I run a .4000, where is that in feet ahead from the start we now bring it down to reaction time off the light?

I thought you were referring to ET only. Rt definitely maters in that scenario, given exact equal et as your opponent, a .200 spread isn't much but it will probably give you 5-10ft at the traps.

What is a good RT? What is a competitive RT?

Perfect for a pro tree is .400, if you leave sooner than that, you just lost the race by red light. A full tree or (sportsman tree) is .500 . As far as what is competitive? I guess that all depends on how good your opponent is. My track normally uses a sportsman tree, and if I cut anything slower than a .550, I consider myself sleeping.

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Sic I've seen really good riders who chose not ride on the street,lang Hindle was one.ive seen bad track riders who think they are good on the street,but actually they just take stupid chances to win.In the past dozen years my house has been the fix-it place for about 8 young riders of those 8 three were good on the track and slowed down on the street,one was good on the track and fast on the street.i believe the stupid street riders have stopped riding now

I know a good test for a rider, go to the Isle of Man TT and try it, I know of a few MOTOGP riders
that don't want to get near it ! I love GP, but I love TT almost as much .. ( . )( . )

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About twelve years ago they tried to get an Isle of Man type race in canada On the Cabot trail ,cape Breton island ,our bloody government stopped it. About 300 km a beautiful ride except for the Newfie speed bumps

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Yeah Nasty I agree. A .150 (.550) and slower RT is slow. For whatever reason I can't cut a decent light on a solo pass. I am much quicker while under the gun. Go figure.

To Cara...got my new tires on today....totally corrected the weaving issue(s)....she's riding on her rails again;)Me HAPPY!!!!!Thanks for the input...ride safe.

Which one of my 8 second tickets do you want to see?

SWB.

Glad to here it Grn, have fun ! be safe brother !