Okay I just picked up my bike from the shop today and I had about a 22mi ride home to get the feel of the new Galfer rotors frt & rr plus brake pads and new lines. My initial impression is not good the tech said I'll need about 100mi break in and to be carefull. Carefull is the word... they our at this point not givening me that instant stopping power. I remember just replacing the brake lines and pads with my Busa and man!!! it was instant stop power, I had to re learn my brake habit. I'm kinda worried about the lack of brake pressure I have with my new setup? Is this normal??

I wanna say it depends on the compound. I had Vesrah who are considered to be the best pads by many track days addicts and when I left the shop, my experience was similar to yours. I didn't bed them in but ended up being really pleased with them so much so that although I have Brembo Calipers, MC's and pads, I'm planning to switch back to Vesrah (if they make pads for those calipers). I bet you tried the brakes a lot on your way back which you shouldn't have. Manufacturers have different bed in process but overall they are pretty much the same. I would go on parking lot and drag the brakes for a little less than 10 minutes, then let rotors and pads cool down. After that go to a quiet long road and use the brake at 65%. Some manufacturers want you to do sets of 60mph-0 (4-5 times), park, and let them cool down. Final step: get back on that same road and give the brakes a hard work out i.e numerous hard deceleration. You should be kosher after that.

I'm assuming that you're far from a newbie and that the levers are plenty firm....

dragking
I went back to the shop that installed my pads and talked to the mechanic he advised maybe I need to go with EBC HH pads. We started talking about materails used into todays brake pads and we looked at the package my pads came in and what do you know! they sent me two different types of pads. I have the FD 371G1375 & FD371G1370. Now the rear pads are FD267G1054 (Organic). I'm really not happy with this setup. They are willing to order the correct pads and pay for the reinstall, but I have to wait till next week in which I'll be outta town till Late Friday. Is there any other brake pads compatible with the Galfer rotors? I really don't want to have to waste a good weekend not riding. If they would just refund the the cost of the brake pads I would be willing to order some different pads a pay for the install myself.

go with EBC HH pads

AFAIC, those are just like OEM pads (GOOD) except they do not squeal at low speed.

Rook
That's what I ordered. The tech guy said I would be happy. Unfortunately they didn't have the rear pads so I'm stuck with the Organic pads that I can't even intentionally lock-up!!!!

I went back to the shop that installed my pads and talked to the mechanic he advised maybe I need to go with EBC HH pads.

I don't recall where I ordered mine from but I think I had to do some looking to find the rear pads. I was advised to stay away from the organic pads. I think organic was more common for the rear pads.

If memory serves, I think i was told that Vesra pads were better for track riding where the brakes stayed hot all the time. I was goping to get those but chose EBC HH instead.

As far as locking the rear....SH!T...I have always had to stand on the bloody pedal to do that. I don't think mine will lock unless the load shifts way to the front such as when you brake hard with the front. I tried at low speed to lock the rear without touching the front and IDT it was doing it.

* Last updated by: Rook on 4/20/2013 @ 10:19 AM *

Punched in the part # at Dennis Kirk for the rear pads I have.. Looks to me like they got 'em. I am pretty sure that is where I ordered mine from.

https://www.denniskirk.com/ebc/double-h-sintered-metal-brake-pads.p194897.prd/194897.sku

* Last updated by: Rook on 4/20/2013 @ 10:15 AM *

Rook
That's what I have installed. I had to go to another town that had them in stock.
Here are some pic's of what I had installed. Galfer rotors front & rears, brake lines, EBC Pads,Vortox sprocket.
The brake line color is not dark enough for me, you know anybody that sales something that'll match my bikes color?

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* Last updated by: bankheadd on 4/20/2013 @ 6:14 PM *

Okay, for what I just spent to upgrade my whole brake systen the jury is still out. As of right now the OEM is much better. I know I still have to break-in the pads, I've only put about 60 mi on them in local traffic. I guess I was expecting same breaking pwr as I had with my Busa which only had the brakes lines and EBC HH pads, the initial bite was very noticeable out the door on my busa.

@Rook: Vesrah makes both Racing and street pads, but they don't make a rear.
Bankheadd the brakes on the 14 are superior to the Busa brakes, I have rode my buddy's and all the magazine tests concluded the same thing. This is probably why you're not seeing the big improvement! Give it some time though, you should see some. It took a while for the Vesrah to show me their true potential. Also, you may wanna zip tie the lever over night that'll firm up the lever some!

* Last updated by: dragking on 4/23/2013 @ 12:08 AM *

Galfer rotors front & rears, brake lines, EBC Pads,Vortox sprocket.
The brake line color is not dark enough for me, you know anybody that sales something that'll match my bikes color?

All the stuff I have! Good choices. I LOVE that yellow brake line. Is that yellow or orange?? Yeah, it may get darkened with break dust but the little accent is nice with the black and red fairings.

I agree with drag about the brakes. I too was underwhelmed. It is no better than stock but mine are quiet. I always say the brake lines are an appearance mod for a ZX-14. My busa has ONLY SS lines and that is no different than stock either. Looks cool. Maybe a new set of pads will help that bike but I feel even that one has enough brake for the street. I can lift the rear wheel up but I literally have to pull the lever to the grip.

Thanks Rook I just wished that brake line was a little more darker, and yes they are suppose to be orange. I do have all new EBC HH pads front & rear, and like I mentioned earlier so far the stock brakes feel better only time will tell.

There is also this thread going about pads and rotors bed in.

http://zx14ninjaforum.com/messages.cfm?threadid=300AE53B-1372-66AE-3B52F3CD6FC7B453&page=1

Rook I reading another post of yours and you mentioned you have a orange brake line, Where did you purchase it at and do you think it will match my paint scheme?

My orange brake lines are Galfers. I have not installed them yet. I have blue Goodridge kevlar brake lines now and a Spiegler ss orange clutch line. If you have orange Galfer lines, you know what they look like. I would call them extension cord orange. More yellow than your pumpkin orange 14. You r bike is similar to the color of my 08 busa. I have yellow lines on that and like it a lot.

Okay, that's what I have, the Galfers it's not matching well for me.

LOL I feel your pain bankhead! I was sure the blue lines were exactly what I wanted but not any more. You can't really see the fronts much. Most people won't notice what color mine are but I will.

* Last updated by: Rook on 4/22/2013 @ 8:13 PM *

Your organic pads will melt...onto the rotor...and expand....possibly seizing the rear brake on ya.I tried em once...only once..for about twenty minutes.

I agree with drag about the brakes. I too was underwhelmed. It is no better than stock but mine are quiet. I always say the brake lines are an appearance mod for a ZX-14. My busa has ONLY SS lines and that is no different than stock either. Looks cool. Maybe a new set of pads will help that bike but I feel even that one has enough brake for the street. I can lift the rear wheel up but I literally have to pull the lever to the grip.

Okay, that's what I have, the Galfers it's not matching well for me.

This is why I wish I could leave a bike a alone. Modifications bring both satisfaction and headaches.

* Last updated by: dragking on 4/23/2013 @ 12:50 AM *

Bankhead you wanna try the Spielger they look darker than what you have

Speigler Clutch line

I think bankhead's pics are a little overexposed for the orange lines making them seem a bit faded. They are probably the same orange. You want a more red orange, bankhead. I don't think you will find that in brake lines so best to go with something to accent.

* Last updated by: Rook on 4/23/2013 @ 7:41 AM *

....just did a sideXside comparo.

Drag is right. The Spiegler line is a nicer orange. A shade deeper, more saturated, and has a slight luster to it. Thank God I am not quite as picky as you are, bankhead....LOL iw ould have to put these up for sale and no one would buy them.....oh well, I will use them for a year or two. I wanted to go with gold anodized fittings, anyway. I guess that is my reason to switch to Spiegler if the orange color was not enough.

...but still, the Spiegler is not anywhere near as deep as the orange on your bike. You might have a look at some of the reds that are available if you want to come close to that.

dammit, now I have a complex about my brake line color.

....I have not even put these on the bike yet.

Rook, can you seen me that pic you used in your comparison?

Grn14, I had the organic pad replaced with the EBC HH pad.