Rook? You take these two [4 total] meat slicer blades, stagger them, so the two blades meet in the middle. In other words, you lay your axle down on these two blades; one set on each end of the axle. They have these roller skate bearings off one of those inline skates. Each one is centered in the blade so when you spin the wheel, the blades have less static than the bearings inside this marc parnes setup mentioned. Kind of extra static that overrides the bearing cage drag in that balancer kit.

http://marcparnes.com/UNIV.JPG Check the tapers that are about to load the static to the wheel bearings. We want the bearings limp so the whole wheel rolls on the blades w/axle. So, Rook, you take your axle, run it thru the swing arm. You practice in the cheap seats [swing-a], having the rear wheel with nothing on it, meaning, the carrier or spacers dragging on the rubber seals or axle. Everything is bare off the wheel to balance. Nothing to drag the balls on either end.

Eventually, your will rest on a ball. You do not want marc's cones, pressing into the center collar, loading up on the wheel's bearing race [drag]. I've even balanced my sprocket carrier [swing-a] and that thing flops to one side >> No longer! That carrier is balanced in the static too.

The beads? The guys may have installed too many/too little beads in the GL scenario? The water bottle and a drop of beads in that container with drill applied? Did someone say, how many beads will eventually tumble over each other, it needs a smooth surface?

Okay, it does not balance as well as a tubeless, but a tube type has better results, are the factory's quote? Then, if we balanced in the static, it says, 'we don't need no stink'inn ribs to climb over to be balanced.' We are balanced not on a few spins, but one hair move is over one hair move, over and over till it rolls over your head, who out pee forums the old goats withe belly rolls, not beads of roll me another one. Just like the other one.

CheezeIS, you guys catch on to a fallacy and can't let go! Limp Wristwisters forum is a perfect example. There is no measured weight... Just throw in some beads and off she rolls. If I set the wheel in a static balancer, it says, my weight sits here? All the beads are down at the bottom. My tires are smooth because I keep up on the pressure? Yes or no?

GL-Vibe vs. So many beads I'm balanced better than static. I'm open. I have videos that show that tire is spent. If I bead up, can duplicate that vibe at the forks... Same shit someone is scrubbing brakes and the vibe comes back. So, it is either or. Either static out preforms the beads from day one or it does not.

Technically, I have a worn tire. If I it needs no rebalancing, I install beads, she stops vibrating on hard braking, I'm a believer the beads cleared the vibe on a worn tire.

Yes Dynabeads work well at high speeds in our tubeless tires on our high hp bikes:

Maybe you should tell Rossi, Hayden, Spies, Lorenzo, and Stoner about them.

No don't tell... They should not be run on the track, IMHO... Not because they do not work, but because of the risk of spreading them all over the track in the event of a crash. I will no longer be running them in my 10r for this reason and just purchased a static balancer.

Mystery Oil is the Best!!!

It does wonders for cleaning my chain!!!LOL...No Joke it really does a great job.

2nd... keeps my chain minty fresh.

LOL Had....Typical of the forum. Does make for some interesting reading though. Just have to have a thick skin sometimes, and not take it too seriously. Alot of good information, why I keep reading. Seem to be in a non-lurking mode again lately also. Haha

LOL, did you camera shoot my key fob, ping me to zero?:

1. Camera is too clean a shot at so many mph.
2. I want that pc screen, yeah, when it shows numbers if it was running at that speed.
3. But no, it was just a key fob swing my needles in N with the green lights all over the place. Yes, I understeerstand the correlation between bead and speed.

I want to know if that cop bike was filled with bead, could the bike balance with the beads at their lowest point?

Tough enough to breath at those speeds... let alone snap a pic, Hub.

Recall...? Where is the rpm recall? Why didn't that commander box recall there too, not all --- at the windows? Booooo! Breath? When you get near my age, try and see at that speed!!!

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RPM's?... At your age, you need only concern yourself with BPM's.

Actually Hub,
The WB2 and LCD-200 could be hooked up to log RPM's... I've just never used it for anything other than AFR's... Privateer posted a vid from a guy on the COG forum that had tapped into all kinds of sensors on his Connie... Was sweet!... I've just been too lazy to do it.

Tough enough to breath at those speeds... let alone snap a pic, Hub.

Yep, Not to mention how f..k.ng LOUD it is. Dog did you ever get over 200mph ???? My bike would never do it. Beads maybe ? Pesk-E Tings lol. Retry Please.

Dog did you ever get over 200mph ????

No... I'm addicted to low gearing. Cannot go back the other direction now w/o more power.

I'm addicted to low gearing.

Yep, we same people. To get those last two miles per hour takes to frigging long in my book. Someday

I will send Myth Busters some Dyna Beads so they can scientifically confirm its clamed results!
And Romans if you want to see your bike go 200+ bring your turbo ZX-14 down to FL and ill make it happen!

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I like to hear the sound of the wind change. You know what I'm talking about, right? And then I hear that rear chain whipping like a mother.

And Romans if you want to see your bike go 200+ bring your turbo ZX-14 down to FL and ill make it happen!

Great offer, if you get to Toronto your welcome to take it out any time. My word is Good.

I have never attempted 200 on the Turbo bike Cooter, during the build I went straight for the low gearing as it was all I had at the time for the Marchesini Rims, sprockets are diff. 17/45 is one hell of Rush in Boost Lol. 0-160 brings a hole new game. I'm sure that bike will do 200 with ease running 17/40. Won't need as much room either lol. All in good fun of course. Cheers.

I like to hear the sound of the wind change. You know what I'm talking about, right? And then I hear that rear chain whipping like a mother.

Yep, then it's the small dip in the road you did not know was there,,,, when your ass starts to leave the seat as your knees were not in tight enough the wind carries the smell of shit. Just Sayin lol

I bought my static balancer at,(you guessed it, ) Harbor Freight and I use it to balance all my tires, including my race tires when I used to race. Works excellent, no vibrations at race speeds.

Mad

Static balancing is not to hard and once you get it to stop in 3 different spots the heavy spot is gone. I have rebalanced wheels that were spun balanced and still get a heavy spot. The heavy spot would only be 3 or 4 grams and not enuf to make a difference.

Great offer, if you get to Toronto your welcome to take it out any time. My word is Good.

I have never attempted 200 on the Turbo bike Cooter, during the build I went straight for the low gearing as it was all I had at the time for the Marchesini Rims, sprockets are diff. 17/45 is one hell of Rush in Boost Lol. 0-160 brings a hole new game. I'm sure that bike will do 200 with ease running 17/40. Won't need as much room either lol. All in good fun of course. Cheers.

If that offer still stands in a year or so

It will. Going to boost the new 14R with a stage 2 set up so it will be diff bike but the offer will be the same. Cheers.

It will. Going to boost the new 14R with a stage 2 set up so it will be diff bike but the offer will be the same. Cheers.

Static vs Dynamic

Have done a little search to discover a good explanation for what the heck dynamic balancing is ....and how is it dif from the kind of balancing most of us think of when we look back to our days of HS auto maintenance class.

Remember the stand that you placed the wheel atop like a frisbee? ...the one with the bubble glass at the center? That was a vertical axis static balancer. Static balancing shows what part of the outer diameter of the wheel is the heaviest and needs to be counterbalanced. It works by gravity. The aim of static balancing is to prevent the wheel from tending to lobe or hop around its axis which would cause obvious problems for suspension, steering and general comfort and reliability of the whole vehicle.

or this one which seems to have some more sophisticated diagnostic equipment.

The balancers we buy with the cone rods that run through the axis and rest on bearings do the same job. The only dif is that they work with the wheel's axis in horizontal orientation. Otherwise, gravity performs the same trick. That is, it pulls the heaviest spot on the wheel to the lowest position. Very simple, very straightforward.

Works just fine for old fashioned wheels that typically were much narrower and closer to what was used in the horse and buggy days........or motorcycles.

With today's low profile wide tread tires that are used on cages, there is all kinds of opportunity for there to be not only a heavy spot at one point on of the outer diameter of the wheel, but anywhere across that 10-11 inch wide tread. Today's out of balance car wheel may not only have a tendency to lobe in a vertical fashion, but to wobble laterally.

This diagram shows what part of the tire is being identified in a balance test. The source of Static imbalance is considered to be the entire width of the wheel. The source of dynamic imbalance is shown very specifically to occur at one point on the width of the wheel. It requires some pretty sophisticated machinery to do this. Dynamic balancers pinpoint the heavy spot on the wheel's diameter and width by taking readings from the wheel in motion, at high speed. So it is the actual rotation of the wheel that reveals the sate of balance rather than simple gravity.

SO, dynamic balancing not only counters the vertical effect (lobing) of wheel imbalance but also the horizontal effect (wobbling).

Obviously I'm no expert but from what I have discovered about dynamic and static balancing, I can see why the advantages of dynamic balancing is not so great with motorcycle wheels that typically are very narrow and tall compared to car wheels that are getting ever wider and shorter.

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