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Created on: 07/20/13 08:48 PM

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dissidentdave


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MotoGP Style Shifter
07/20/13 8:48 PM

Hey guys, I repaired/modified a set of damaged Vortex Rearsets and reversed the Shift pattern, MotoGP Style! Anyone else out there done the reverse shift pattern on your 14? Post it.


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07 ZX-14: Yoshi slip-ons, zero gravity screen, GPR stabilizer, PC3, No Flies, BMC Filter, Vortex Lowering Links, Vortex Rearsets (Reversed Shift Pattern), magnetic oil plug.

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RE: MotoGP Style Shifter
07/20/13 11:59 PM

haven't done it yet. But and the Annotori quick shifter to that set up ane youll like it. Did it on the ZX10 looking for a mod to do it on the zx14



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RE: MotoGP Style Shifter
07/21/13 8:35 PM

Hey Blkcasper, I looked that shifter up. It says it only works on the up shift. Since I have mine reverse shifted, I wonder if it would work properly. Did you have your ZX10 in a reverse shift pattern with the Annitori Shifter?


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Rook


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RE: MotoGP Style Shifter
07/21/13 9:28 PM

The Annitori shifter is made by the same co that makes the HM quickshifter. They are the same technology but the Annitori is LESS precise in adjustment than the HM and less expensive. I am told you will never know the difference unless you are a pro racer. I believe it but for the $100 (or whatever difference it is), I like the precision options and the cool little module with digital display that comes with the HM.

I have the HM. It allows the option of regular or GP shift. IDK if the Annitori can do that. I will say this, I miss a shift once in a while and I think GP would vastly improve that. Also, GP shift allows greater cornering clearance than standard. I doubt that matters much if you have a kickstand. That will prolly drag before the shift lever does if you have rearsets that are raised all the way up.

Nice. How did you get the Vortex to convert to GP? I always heard you need to reposition the kickstand spring to the inside of the kickstand. You seem to have gotten away without doing that.



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RE: MotoGP Style Shifter
07/22/13 10:34 AM

RE: MotoGP Style Shifter
07/21/13 8:35 PM


Hey Blkcasper, I looked that shifter up. It says it only works on the up shift. Since I have mine reverse shifted, I wonder if it would work properly. Did you have your ZX10 in a reverse shift pattern with the Annitori Shifter?

My ZX10 is set up for reverse shift. It will work either was as it is a digital switch. Hub the same company makes both Quick shifters. This quick shifter is soooo smooth any time on the gass above 6K, almost like haveing an automatic trans. I do a lot of street riding and 5-10 track days a year with the ZX10. Another little know fact is that it also can be moved from bike to bike with only a harness swap. Found out that Kawasaki and Suzuki use the same harness.



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RE: MotoGP Style Shifter
07/22/13 10:57 AM

vortex can be changed to gp look up my post about it i have close up photos of the small mod you need to do to the bottom fairing. i have a bazzaz quick shifter and have just fitted factory pro shift star of witch has made shifting much more precise.



2009 zx14,racetec forks, ohlins rear, carbon hugger,intake covers ,grills , fairing lowers,Bazzaz qs/tc, orange tpms, Vortex rear sets gp shift ,akrapovic full system, hel brake lines, woolich ecu writer, healtec speedo healer, bridgestone bt003rs, 16 front spocket,ebc hh front pads,

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Rook


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RE: MotoGP Style Shifter
07/22/13 8:17 PM

Since I have mine reverse shifted, I wonder if it would work properly.

No probably not but the HM quickshifter will. ....and regarding my earlier post on this thread, I am pretty sure the HM is a lot more than just a hundred dollars more. Annitori sells the Hm and the Annitori shifter. Check with them. Great customer service and tech support.

vortex can be changed to gp look up my post about it i have close up photos of the small mod you need to do to the bottom fairing.
Remember seeing it, can't find it now.

You carve out the edge on the lower fairing and uase some sort of extended screw throgh the front Heim joint? I thoght the front heim joint was non-removable with Vortex....

i have a bazzaz quick shifter and have just fitted factory pro shift star of witch has made shifting much more precise.
The Bazzaz shifter is the SHIZZZ! lots of money but very nice

I have been thinking about going with the FP shift star for some time. Good to know it helps clutchless shifting.

What I notice with my HM is that you NEED to shift quite decisively at high rpm or a shift is likely to miss. All that power can be intimidating and I feel compelled to shift a bit softly. Then the foot action is too slow for the kill time. The ignition is cut faster than the foot shift. The shift doesn't make it to the next gear. Sometimes hits false neutral, sometimes just stays in the gear it was in.


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RE: MotoGP Style Shifter
07/22/13 9:50 PM

Rook, I had that problem at tmes, then I relaiaed that I wqs getting out of the gas just a little when trying to shift like I would wwithout quick shifter. It really does tahe some getting used to keeping the throttle pinned while shifting tho.



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RE: MotoGP Style Shifter
07/23/13 10:09 AM


i have just put the shift shaft on the out side so it clears sidestand , on my rearsets rook i can remove all parts from the rearsets



2009 zx14,racetec forks, ohlins rear, carbon hugger,intake covers ,grills , fairing lowers,Bazzaz qs/tc, orange tpms, Vortex rear sets gp shift ,akrapovic full system, hel brake lines, woolich ecu writer, healtec speedo healer, bridgestone bt003rs, 16 front spocket,ebc hh front pads,

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RE: MotoGP Style Shifter
07/23/13 12:47 PM

Thanks for showing us again Andy. I'm swiping that pic for my files. I have old lowers. They have gotten some minor scratches over the years. Some repaired pitting to the left lower from my garage tip over, too. I'm not the least bit reluctant to trim away some of that edge to enable GP shifting. I'd just fiberglass it back up and repaint if I felt I needed to. I see the kickstand spring peg in your pic clears the shift rod. All Andy did was turn the shift shaft knuckle so it points down and attach the heim joint so that it is located to the outside of the knuckle. The lower fairing interferes so a small piece needs to be cut away.

here is my Vortex rearset w/standard shift pattern setup for comparison.

yeah, I see my whole shift rod is detachable from the rearsets. I thought one end was permanently attached but I guess not


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RE: MotoGP Style Shifter
07/23/13 10:19 PM

Thannks guys. Rook, I was trying to link to your post to respond. I cannot seem to make it work. I did not have to cut my fairing. The arm barely touches it. I may shave a hair off to clear it better. I dont know about all the supre-expensive stuff, but maybe one day. I really want to set mine up to perform as well as possible on the curves.



07 ZX-14: Yoshi slip-ons, zero gravity screen, GPR stabilizer, PC3, No Flies, BMC Filter, Vortex Lowering Links, Vortex Rearsets (Reversed Shift Pattern), magnetic oil plug.

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Rook


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RE: MotoGP Style Shifter
07/24/13 2:02 PM

Rook, I was trying to link to your post to respond.

You mean quote? Just click and drag to highlight what you want to quote>
copy (command/C on my Mac...might be control?c on a PC)>
Click the third icon from right in the tool bar on top of the post box. That will make {qout] [/quote] tags.>

Press Command/V (or Control /Vto paste your copied quote in the quote tags.>

that's it.

I did not have to cut my fairing. The arm barely touches it. I may shave a hair off to clear it better.

Thanks. I will check that out.

I really want to set mine up to perform as well as possible on the curves.

QS is really cool but I only use mine for straighhtline opperation. A QS that is capable of clutchless downshifts might be of more benefit in setting up for a corner. ....even there, if you do not have a slipper clutch, you will want to do some clutch modulation by hand if you downshifting hard enough.

The QS is a neat mod but more a novelty for me and my riding. It will shave a few thousandths off your quarter mile. It's great for highly competative racing. Most would find it useful for drag racing. Road racing ....I think a guy would need to be a pro before a shifter made a lot of dif.



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RE: MotoGP Style Shifter
07/24/13 4:10 PM

My bike came with a Muzzy Air Shifter, but I took it off and sold it, to pay my wife back on my in-house (literally) loan to get the bike. The NOS tank and all that was bulky and I dont want to have to fill the tank every time just to shift a few times. An electric shifter, though, now that would be ok. I think for now I will keep an eye out for the most bang for my buck. I have been intersted in making my own carbon fiber stuff for a long time. That may be next. I already have a materials list together for atvcomposites.com.


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07 ZX-14: Yoshi slip-ons, zero gravity screen, GPR stabilizer, PC3, No Flies, BMC Filter, Vortex Lowering Links, Vortex Rearsets (Reversed Shift Pattern), magnetic oil plug.

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Rook


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RE: MotoGP Style Shifter
07/24/13 7:51 PM

An electric shifter, though, now that would be ok.

Pingle makes good ones. PM Scottjkyl and ask if he vcan tell how he is liking his....shifts with a button, I doubt if a shift would be missed ever as long as the thing is set up properly. Gonna cost some money though. Also a little more weight than a ignition cut shifter like the HM.

I think the Bazzaz is the shifter I would get. Actually pretty cheap when you consider the cost of separate fuel management and Traction Control systems. The Bazzaz with TC and QS has all of that for one price. About a grand, I think.

I have been intersted in making my own carbon fiber stuff for a long time.

Cool. You get it down then see if you can market the parts.


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