Hi Folks, my new 2013 has a tendency to pull to the right hand side at around 60 - 80 km/hr when I take my hands off the bar.

Some preliminary research indicates that some other owners have experienced it with the 2012 also. Most guys have said when they raise it with their dealers or Kawasaki, the reply is "they all do it"

Has anyone here experienced the same issue? Should it be any cause for concern?

Either you are riding on crowned roads or your wheels are out of line. Whoever said "They all do it" really meant "I'm way too stupid and lazy to do anything about it" The hash marks on the swingarm aren't always accurate

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It's definitely no the roads, I've tested the theory on roads crowned left of right. When the road tapers to the left, admittedly the drift is less. But on flat, or right hand tapered roads the drift is noticable.

Have a look at this thread: http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?TID=68668&FID=27

There seems to be a guy that had dealt with this issue as far as it can go.

Not saying yours don't but my 2012 certainly does not im fairly confident it is not a common thing

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It's brand new. The only reason for it to pull to the right is the rear wheel is slightly cocked to the left. If the place you bought it can't make it right, call KHI's warranty department and demand a replacement. You'll be surprised at how quickly it gets fixed.

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Hi Folks, my new 2013 has a tendency to pull to the right hand side at around 60 - 80 km/hr when I take my hands off the bar.

Lumiera ... Did you ever resolve this issue at the dealers ? Below is my similar tale of woe.

At 500 miles I mentioned to the dealer that my 2012 was pulling right. I got the same "crowned road" response. They claimed they took the bike out on the road and couldn't feel the pull.

At 3000 miles I took it in to get new tires as the Metzelers were wearing excessively just left of the tires centerline. I told them it was still pulling right and I felt that the tire wear was a result of my compensating by pulling / pushing the bars to keep the bike tracking straight. Had they again claimed that all was ok, the bike would be on Craigslist today. I've been lusting recently for a KTM RC8 if you get my drift !

This time around they took me seriously and rode the bike for 30 minutes and surprise, surprise, they finally agreed with me that the bike was pulling decidely to the right. They could find no rear alignment problems however. The mechanic feels that the problem could possibly be in the forks. The bike goes in next week to find the problem.

The pulling right occurs no matter the road (crowned, flat, etc. ) or the speed of the bike. All I need to do is lighten up my grip, or release the bars, and it immediatly pulls right. Under the same road and test conditions my Triumph and Aprilia run straight with no tendency to pull right.

When cornering, the ZX14R has a quick turn in right, but I must use some effort to get it to go left. My other bikes quickly turn in right or left with the same amount of input to either side.

We shall see.

Tom

* Last updated by: Werks on 6/28/2013 @ 7:56 AM *

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Sounds like it has a case of yamadanishiki is the alleged. Then again, sometimes it pulls awamori style is too the alleged.

Withat'said, that's my guess? When the weld cooled, the frame AND?OR swingarm were set on the jig and now the jig is up!

Sounds like classic swing is my arm is my first guess. But me (((neck))) is twisted is I really steer well into a corner, but come around the other way, well, here I am withis complaint.

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A few years ago I pulled the rear wheel on my Hayabusa(traded for a ZX-14R) and had a new rear tire mounted. Installed the wheel, lined it up and went for a ride. First thing I noticed was it turned so easily to the right but turned so hard to the left. I went home and checked the rear wheel alignment. I was off by a whole line from one side to the other. Re-aligned the marks and everything was fine.

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Good one, street. So what needs to be done is do not touch the axle but to check where you guys are now? If that is lined up line for line... Jig was fine. Was it human error?

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My pulls to the right also sometimes. But I thought maybe because of the single sided exhaust. Doesnt really bother me since I really don't ride with my hands off that much. In fact I've notice this with my other bikes also. 09 14 and 06 gsxr 1000. Always thought it was the exhaust. They all seem to do it from time to time. My 14r does it coming to a stop sometimes and other times when slowing down and I take my hands off too stretch its fine........go figure.

* Last updated by: zx14racer on 6/28/2013 @ 8:51 AM *

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This issue is well past the check the alignment marks stage.

These have has been checked / adjusted several times. Once by the Kawi mechanic at 500 miles when the right pull was first reported. Then at 1500 miles by me when I saw a very slight variation between the left and right side narks. I adjusted the alignment to no avail ... it still pulled right. Then again this week at 2900 miles by the mechanic. The alignment marks are dead on per each side of the swingarm.

I surely wish it were something as simple as alignment marks, but it's not !

The end result of this is that the bike still pulls to the right. We're not talking a slight drift, it's quite pronounced. If it were slight, I'd likely not notice it.

Doesnt really bother me since I really don't ride with my hands off that much.

It doesn't bother you because your bike isn't pulling strongly to the right. I don't ride with my hands off the bars either .... except when I'm trying to test and understand the problem.

I've owned 27 bikes in the 50 years that I've been riding, and this is not normal.

Thanks, Tom

* Last updated by: Werks on 6/28/2013 @ 9:39 AM *

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Don't know how bad yours is pulling but I heard years ago when I asked my mechanic friend at a dealership about my gixxer doing it, he said his busa did it also because of the exhaust on the one side. Sorry but this isn't the first bike I've notice this on at all. And by no means is mine that bad. Just a slight pull when slowing down coming to a light I notice it sometimes when im streching my arms out. Again its happened before on other bikes. And I know for a fact it was an issue on the 3rd gen zx10r also. Check it out online. I remember years ago people with zx10 complained big time about that issue. They found the problem I just don't remember.

* Last updated by: zx14racer on 6/28/2013 @ 9:58 AM *

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Tire wear front?Front right caliper hanging?Maladjusted fork preload?Can you get the front up off the ground?See how the bars turn from side to side...maybe some binding going on at the steering stem?Forks are at equal height?Rear brake not binding is it?It should not be doing that....period.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/28/2013 @ 10:05 AM *

Both the '08 and the '013 were given the hands free because of arm numbness. So I shake the hands and both arms with hands off the bars. Have I ridden bent bike frames? Yep. Do they steer normal one way, the other way it's what is up with this shit?

Both times with hands off she points straight. That's two bikes that were/are straight as an arrow? So hands off, sans an induced wobble phenom, it should glide straight ahead. If you send body english to counter... Something is up.

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Tire wear front?

"Hi, this is my new bike, my new bike, not I have the original front but changed 3 rears so far, then we'd see a handling problem? Clown Point 1 For missing 'My NEW BIKE!"

Front right caliper hanging?

My new bike pulls to the whatever it is, I am not slowing down is some right to pull up the other point is, Clown Point 2.

Maladjusted fork preload?

MY NEW BIKE and any other bike is point of 3 is the triangle. Pointing out that one may use a 9.5 rated spring, and a 10 in the other. Bottom line, the front end is a one spring period is that 3-pointie'inn. That is now 3 Clown points. Looking at it at face value.

Can you get the front up off the ground?

He's getting warm.

See how the bars turn from side to side...maybe some binding going on at the steering stem?

Getting warmer. Oopseas! False alarm. If say the steering was hammered with a divot at the races, the ball sinks into that divot? There would be so much body english, the bike is heading straight as an arrow. Ever experience that? Guess not or you'd clear that away. Clown Cluelesstrikes again. Point 4 is where is that seat?

Forks are at equal height?

Are we at the 3-pointriangle again? Fork up or fork down, it is weight times triangle. Look at all that spring play you took out like how many mini millimeters we talking? It sure is not a half inch. Are we back to that can't move this fork from the bottom taper again?

Rear brake not binding is it?

Fuck! Here goes 3 pages of I really need to sit downow! How many clears do we need to clear is clear them before you open that trap, or we are trapped with your 3 pages of drag someone's eyes thru thishit is shit the fuck down! Clown!

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Tire pressures?

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Then YOU fix it fuckhead.....totally reinvented what I was was suggesting...as usual....yeah...tire pressure...uh huh...you tell em Hub...maybe he should be running 70 PSI...like you do.God you sound
stupid rephrasing what I've clearly said.Try sticking to your own assessments...your gift is NOT paraphrasing;). You'd be much better off doing what you normally do....plagerizing....at least you'd be getting things....'close'(maybe,hell,ya might fuck that up as well...who knows?;)

Just what the fuck ya think would happen to the bike's direction IF the right front pads were lightly rubbing(more than normal) on that rotor...geez.....sound too far fetched does it?Go get a donut or somethin....everyone's going now to put more air in their tires...except moi...you think Werks is some kind of fool?Geez...show some respect will ya?I said FORKS...not fuckin SPRINGS.You don't know the difference?If I meant springs...I'd say so jerk.Classic TROLL...has nothing but inflammatory remarks to say regardless of who's thread he fucks up...nice job.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/28/2013 @ 2:49 PM *

Just what the fuck ya think would happen to the bike's direction IF the right front pads were lightly rubbing(more than normal) on that rotor...geez.....sound too far fetched does it?

Look grn, your theories are mostly valid and for some other time. You are not zeroing down the time is the man is on the clock and you are pulling straws. It's either bent or something is not up to spec is the tire or the bend.

Everyone's going now to put more air in their tires...except moi...you think Werks is some kind of fool?

Only fool around here is probably you. You think real simple shit first like tire pressure. Has the owner ever checked the pressure since he received it from the dealer? There is a variable of neglect... Right up your alley.

Geez...show some respect will ya?

For you? No. For the tech, yes. Big difference.

I said FORKS...not fuckin SPRINGS.You don't know the difference?

That's what I'm asking you? I already explained it is a once piece unit. I don't care if you use one brake and disc on it or both forks. Is the bike stable with one and two style brakes on the front end being a one piece of work is you. So do you now see how it works? AS ONE! Call it like a battery cell. One cell is weak, the current brings the other one down so both run equal is nature also calling the ball on the springs. One is weak, one is strong = Evens out as one. All 3 points are tightened is what are they?

If I meant springs...I'd say so jerk.

See, I already cleared that runner upper kind of knowledge is waste a page of the runner uppers taking a shot at it.

Classic TROLL...has nothing but inflammatory remarks to say regardless of who's thread he fucks up...nice job.

You are way more inflamed than I. I'm just walking along and oh, something I know a little bit about. You come along and look at your post count. You are like some cackler that has to bark all night long and keep the neighbors up. You know that kind of dog? Keeps barking at everyone that walks by. Not some nice quiet pet that has some training. You are not even house broken is shit on some post.

You are being trained right now. Your abstract is whack to the situation. The owner has classic hand release at 30 to 50 mph it's so classic a wobble wave. Now, if you caught how the wobble begins at that low speed phenom, catch the 33 second mark on the 'clear coast canyon' vid. And speaking about vids, where is that sporadic sped up vid with lines all whack is my assumption? Prove me wrong, you closed low speed screwup my idle being all smooth is my bike?

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He aint got a classic wobble wave jerk...his bike's PULLING to the right...you can't fuckin read?I know you can't copy worth a shit.Nor speak straight,or virtually anything else here...you can't give 'fixable' answers...you take what others have said...and turn em into something either YOU came up with,or change em so much...NOBODY can get it.Yeah....troll...that's exactly what you are...with a bit of motorcycle savvy.Otherwise....you'd be a part of this deal here...instead of spending the OP's time tearing my comments to shreds.Get a fuckin life...you apparently don't have anything but this here...the way you put so much into rephrasing and quoting and changing things.I just got back from an awesome ride....how 'bout you?Sitting here trying to think up cute phrases to try and make someone 'look' stupid?Nice life there..hollywood.

"I already explained it is a once piece unit"...yeah...that's the problem nutter....it aint a one piece unit.Sheesh...some pro.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/28/2013 @ 3:27 PM *

He aint got a classic wobble wave jerk...his bike's PULLING to the right...you can't fuckin read?

Speaking about rides, guess what the who I'm riding? LOL

You do not have the comprehension reading. I said:

Is there a classic hands off? Yes. I laughed back in the 70's when Honda told the customer to keep the hands on the bars.

This has nothing to do with some bent frame or something simple like a low tire out of spec. What I showed at the 33 second mark is how one has his hands off the bars, the bike beings to shake at what I would guess as a phenom speed of the hinge. No other speed does that. So I related that speed window of those km/mph to said speed.

So with the tire low, or the swing bent, it is induced to something leaning or kinking that move? I am hands off, you are chasing a solid part no matter what angle the front end is, it's a one piece unit. And if you do not see it, sit down. You should know some of this black art on your own.

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Sitting here trying to think up cute phrases to try and make someone 'look' stupid?Nice life there..hollywood.

I don't think up shit. It comes naturally. I'm not making you look stupid. I am using your abstract as a plus to the situation or a minus is we are not even close to the problem.

So as hag would say, I am going at it in a round about way is filler, jabber, more shit shot at that abstract you bring in. Did I give kudos to rear wheel being off their settings? And that was empirical formula there = Experience.

You are guesswork. So for me to see how consistent you are with the approach, it can easily be cleared off the troubleshooting tree if theory [experience] says anything. What are the percentages of being wrong? I wanna be wrong. You are just flat out wrong.

Same with the back wheel not having that collar. That's a lot of tire changes and rim flipping one comes out in the garbage can, wheel goes back on.... I think I have formula? So, were you hunting at it or were you on the money with one post? That's the difference here. SHAD UP! Got take a ride and call your boss for me. I want to tell him how much you waste your time is his time is money...... Oh, like you have a job as you say? Are we back to being 'credible?'

Where are those smooth fast lines all sped up?

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" low tire out of spec"...then WHY suggest 'tire pressure' asshole...geez you're a piece of work....troll somewhere else....you got thrown out of every website you've been on(some more than once...)....wonder why that is?And just WHY are you here now?.Non of this is YOUR problem...so stay the fuck out of it.Or be part of...whichever.(I know asking the latter is just TOO much for ya...so be it).You'd rather try and see who you can make feel bad about their suggestions and whatnot.Go use your Delo...mcguyver.

"I am using your abstract as a plus to the situation or a minus is we are not even close to the problem"...gee..I'm starstruck.You don't even KNOW my 'abstract'If ya did...you wouldn't be tryin so hard to fuck it all up...I still say you're scared.Scared someone might actually understand something clearly without your BS twists and turns....and it aint 'we' aren't even close to the problem'.....you have a mouse in your pocket do ya?

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/28/2013 @ 4:17 PM *

And I'm done here. Piss off most of the members because I'm having too much fun????

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"Look grn, your theories are mostly valid and for some other time"...yeah?And just what time might that be...when a guy talks about having a knock in his motor?I'll leave the disconnected advice to you...and yeah it's all about YOU having fun....as usual...fuck everyone else...right?

Hi all!! Well seems there's a lot of passion in this thread, hope this settles any arguments.

Took the bike back to the dealer advising of the issue. One of the techs took it for a ride and agreed he felt it pulling, and slightly cocked to the right. They loosened off the triples and reset the forks inside the triples. He also said the rear wheel was slightly off, but not by much.

With all this stuff tended too, the bike feels much much better... Admittedly there is still a tiny bit of favoring the right, but I think that's more about how I sit on the bike, as most of my bikes have felt like that. Is also gets worse the more fatigued I get, so it's more about me than the bike. That being said, next service, I'll have them take one more look at it.

So yes, turns out the forks weren't set properly in the triples from the factory. So for anyone with these symptoms it would pay to get it back to a dealer, advise of the problem and get them to focus on the front end/triples.

Hope this settles any debate!

Peace.