I don't know if I'm just getting old or these younger guys are just getting faster but it seems like a lot of these youngsters want to test themselves against me on my favorite road these days.

This youngster has a track only 2019 ZX-6R and rides a tuned MT-10 on the roads and he goes pretty good.

Won't be long before he'll be able to catch me, wasn't doing at all bad this day with exception of the near loop out at a buck twenty cresting a hill.

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* Last updated by: Kruz on 8/26/2023 @ 3:24 PM *

You smoked him, kruz. He's getting spooked at the sweepers. The ape is out handling him both handling and power. Some entries were not consistent, goes tight, others were better. If he's trackday toned up, he sure is not applying it.

I'm not worried he's going to catch up. At least you're dressed for the kill.

If I am doing them speeds it means I missed a turn and rode off a cliff that is a long way down ....

Appreciate that Hub, I noticed he did edit out a lot of the cornering action where I'd pull away and put a pretty good gap on him but I think he was actually closing on me a couple times on those long straights. I saw 137 mph on his speedometer a couple times, I don't think I was going anywhere near that on the straights. When we hit the big sweepers I pulled away pretty good though. Yea he does do a lot of track on his ZX-6R, he told me he did Road Atlanta back during the early summer. I was riding what I consider a normal pace, the big Ape wasn't even breathing hard. He told me later that he was riding at his limit the whole time. He's a good rider though, I told him next time I'll follow and he can lead out. If he had looped his bike out on that hill crest, I'd never get over it.

Here's my rear RS11 after that ride, getting those black booggers on there...

* Last updated by: Kruz on 8/16/2023 @ 8:54 PM *

If I am doing them speeds it means I missed a turn and rode off a cliff that is a long way down ....

lytnin, you're cracking me up....

Yeah Kruz, no chicken strips with this bike. Followed a trackdayer who played music as we were going thru some road he knew but new to me. Never gapped me on basically the same bike. Went to duc dealer, salesmen came out and mentioned the tires. I looked and didn't see a chicken stripe. Never noticed it.

But getting back to tire pressure and wear profile, that's pretty much shows the lake ripple result you want to have. Probably the second best handling bike I've put thru the paces. First one was a dealer sponsor getting a gray market T-140 Triumph with dual discs. Never saw a US model that offered the dual disc. The last bike before their demise, was the 4-valve model and they used the dual discs.

Went to duc dealer, salesmen came out and mentioned the tires. I looked and didn't see a chicken stripe. Never noticed it.

....

Nothing like endangering others lives on public roads. No way you're in control of everything. Idiots.

You assume, assume, assume something is going to happen. The most dangerous sport to be collected in, but Richard Petty collected 200 events, and the one's you can't count when he was leading those races he DNF'd.

I'm on that bike most everyday and still wick it up thinking I better keep having fun at it cause life is just too short to play it safe. I have better odds winning the lotto, dying on a plane, getting laid, taking a confidence in a fart and shit me pants.

* Last updated by: Hub on 8/24/2023 @ 6:22 PM *

Nothing like endangering others lives on public roads. No way you're in control of everything. Idiots.

I didn't watch the whole video, but a few seconds of it. I noticed there being some traffic in the few seconds I watched.

Yeah this is pretty stupid riding from what I saw. KAK there's the butt kissing crew on this site, and no matter what they're going to lick each other's asses. "You lick mine, and I'll lick yours." NO FUCKING THANKS. That's not a team I ever want to be on, but I'm also not going to disagree with anyone because it's them and not some reason behind it. I know...I know...WTF?! Not being political?

But I'm not of the mindset that just because someone is riding fast, even triple digit speeds, it's really any more dangerous riding the speed limit.

Seems like most motorcycle deaths where I live are one of 2 scenarios. #1 is people out tooling (cruising) around the country side getting killed from old people pulling out of their driveway in front of them. #2 SQUIDs

Now, there's probably a lot more tooling around deaths than SQUIDs, because far more people are just out riding their bikes than SQUIDs riding 130+ mph. And no doubt, SQUIDs out there passing cars and double yellows at 100+ probably increasing odss pretty dramatically.

I was out riding recently and I like to play around. But I will only play on roads with no traffic. And no, I can't get my tires hot enough to show off pics on a forum. I don't want to piss off people in an area and start having these areas cracked down on. IE, I hope by having some sense about things, maybe just doing a few minutes of *fun* in some area (NEVER in neighborhoods but easily in noise range) for a few minutes and going away I won't have ruined one of the very few spots in my area that I can have a little fun at.

At any rate, the last time I was at one of these spots, no traffic, no kids, area inspected for debris/spills, etc., no nothing except all the sudden, a couple deer... Scared one good enough that it jumped a 8' or so fence like nothing. And you never know when a deer, or a pile of stones, or an engine blew up and spit oil all over the road, and at 100+ mph maybe I won't have to read stupid posts from that idiot again.

You assume, assume, assume something is going to happen. The most dangerous sport to be collected in, but Richard Petty collected 200 events, and the one's you can't count when he was leading those races he DNF'd.

I'm on that bike most everyday and still wick it up thinking I better keep having fun at it cause life is just too short to play it safe. I have better odds winning the lotto, dying on a plane, getting laid, taking a confidence in a fart and shit me pants.

You tell 'em Hub.....

* Last updated by: Kruz on 8/24/2023 @ 9:08 PM *

Wow, didn't expect that kind of a sanctimonious reaction on a forum where everyone supposedly rides 200 HP motorcycles on the road that will top out at nearly 190 mph. I suppose everyone uses these machines to make "Starbuck Runs" at 45 mph....yea right, at least Hub is being honest! That is all I have to say...

KAK there's the butt kissing crew on this site, and no matter what they're going to lick each other's asses. "You lick mine, and I'll lick yours." NO FUCKING THANKS.

If you are referring to the fact that Hub is held in very high regard here on this forum, then yes, I am guilty as charged! Hub has probably forgotten more than most of you ever knew about motorcycles and ZX-14s in particular and has almost legendary status on this forum.

I was out riding recently and I like to play around. But I will only play on roads with no traffic. And no, I can't get my tires hot enough to show off pics on a forum. I don't want to piss off people in an area and start having these areas cracked down on. IE, I hope by having some sense about things, maybe just doing a few minutes of *fun* in some area (NEVER in neighborhoods but easily in noise range) for a few minutes and going away I won't have ruined one of the very few spots in my area that I can have a little fun at.

Agreed completely. We as a motorcycle community have enough problems with the general public without creating more. I understand that some of us are fortunate to have play areas but blowing by folks at dble their speed sure wont do anything to keep them available to us .

* Last updated by: chrly on 8/25/2023 @ 7:44 AM *

If you want to know what it's like to ride fast.... take it to the track/drag strip.

You'll learn how slow you really are. Especially when those pre-teen kids start passing
you in the corners on their 390's scraping their helmets on the pavement and
you can't catch'em on your liter bike.

Once you crawl your way out of novice, then intermediate and start enjoying a more advanced track pace,
you'll have no desire to try and ride fast on the road anymore because it's simply a fools game
and you can't come close to the speeds that you reach on a track.

Closed coarse is where the fun is at. Listening to people talk about how fast
a rider they are on the street is meaningless because the pace is so slow.

Gear up and hit the track. There's no reason not to, leathers and a roll of blue tape is all it takes
to get started.

* Last updated by: piken on 8/25/2023 @ 10:09 AM *

,' it's really any more dangerous'..mmmk.crash at 198.then crash at 60.see if'n ya think the damage is the same.Two identical wrecks .

Listening to people talk about how fast
a rider they are on the street is meaningless because the pace is so slow.

Really, we were going slow huh? If we were going so slow then what is all the fuss about? Hopefully you will make it out this way some day and bring your bike along and show us what real speed is, I'm looking forward to that day.

Piken is correct, Kruz. I got blown away once I got into racing. Street fast and closed course fast are two different speeds. You think you're the dog in your own backyard, but you didn't expect the big dogs in the other yard you walked into.

The aspect of a decreasing radius, the hairpin, the downhill, the blind turn, the straights. And now go even faster next lap than the last and so on. There is no letup and you enter a zone and have this mental tone to it. Then you have to keep doing it or you get rusty.

Street, it's a few turns a short straight, and a stop sign. Race, it's one continuous loop and no cars pulling out, etc. You walk away with a new perspective of speed, and an upgrade in skillsets. The street is more choking it where you'll never get there.

LOL, I'm more dangerous doing the speed limit these days. The walkaway from a few years of racing, gave me the fun of carving lines. So is it my fault I come out of a corner, have a smooth exit, driver deer-eyes me, follows my line. I knew to not come close to the painted line, but close I came. I look in the rear view mirror and the driver is past the painted line and has to correct or dirt was next. Was a big semi. Felt sorry for him, but I'm sure it woke him up.

I suppose the question to ask ones self is
"Have I ever broken the speed limit on my motorcycle while there was other traffic about, including when overtaking?"
Because if you have, sanctimonious comments are a little hypocritical.

And if you own a 14 you didn't purchase it to ride at CB250 speeds or you would have bought one of those.

I believe we have all had our moments where the "bug" has gotten us, including in traffic, bar none.

It doesn't make it right, but we are all as guilty as one another to some extent...

* Last updated by: yannih on 8/26/2023 @ 1:29 PM *

Thanks Yannih, based on the responses, I had to check to make sure I hadn't accidently posted the video on the Home Shoppers Network Forum or Basket Weaving Quarterly by mistake....

* Last updated by: Kruz on 8/27/2023 @ 10:18 AM *

Bravado, love it.

I think people just have different definitions of the meaning of what fast and slow are.

If I'm reading this right Kruz you have a brand new 3.1 mile track in
your back yard?, an organization that runs regular tracks days there and a corral full
of track capable bikes. You seem to enjoy riding fast, gear up,
hit the track and go have some fun legally and safer you'll have a gas.

Kruz: Wow, didn't expect that kind of a sanctimonious reaction on a forum where everyone supposedly rides 200 HP motorcycles on the road that will top out at nearly 190 mph. I suppose everyone uses these machines to make "Starbuck Runs" at 45 mph....yea right, at least Hub is being honest! That is all I have to say...
Sanctimonious definition:"making a show of being morally superior to other people". I don't know you, Kruz. So how could I say I'm morally superior? I figure I fall in right about average.
Speed is obviously important to you. If that's all there was to it, that's fine. Believe it or not, when I bought my new '07 ZX14, the first thing I thought was how I enjoyed just looking at it. It was, and will probably be the most bitchin' thing I'll ever own. Yes, just like those old guys you see cruising down the street in their new Corvette, I just liked OWNING the thing. The performance was secondary. My second thought was how I knew damn well that if I made it a routine to use that power, they would be scraping me off the road someday. In my own way, I enjoyed the bike just as much as you enjoy yours.
As for morals, I don't always go the speed limit either. I opened up my 14 just twice in 13 years, and then to about 160 and for only a moment. Once was on an open highway near Yosemite and there wasn't a car for a mile each way. The other was near Death Valley in a straight with no traffic and no crossroads. Both times I knew for a fact that if anything went wrong, it wouldn't involve others, except maybe a coyote. I've gone "too fast" several times, but you know how fast these bikes can hit 100 and go back down to 50, we're talking just seconds. That's my limit on having fun. Every time, I was aware of my surroundings and in control. I know a 14 was, to some, wasted on me, but only in terms of how I used the power.
I surprised myself when I replied to your post. I've never reacted that way, not outwardly. Getting old. I'm surprised I wasn't kicked around as much as I expected. I also didn't expect to change anyones mind about street racing. You think it's fine to place other peoples well being into your hands. You just want to have fun and mean them no harm. What could possibly happen? Years ago a friend of mine was "chased down" by a faster rider, a total stranger. My friend got uneasy and stopped at a stop sign to let the rider go by. Instead of going by, the rider rear ended my friend at about 70 mph. Two months later my friend was released from the hospital with the mental capacity of a 7 year old. He never recovered and went to a home for the disabled.
For 40 years, I lived at the opening of the Angeles Forest Highway, a road known throughout the world for street racing. I've seen countless riders air lifted after crashing due to high speeds. I witnessed one crash where the rider bled to death while I tried to do CPR. I also saw a Honda 750 reportedly T-bone a VW bug at 90 mph. The Honda was completely INSIDE the car. Both people died. I'll never forget. I was just going to work. It could've been me.
This isn't just about you, or other street racers. There are people out there that are just trying to go about their lives. No one really expects someone passing them at 140 mph. When they pull out from a driveway, they don't realize that headlight 500 feet away will be on them in the blink of an eye. Like anyone, they might have things on their mind, like getting their kids to school or getting to work on time. None of them expect to be involved in your "fun time". Got any kids of your own? A wife? Others that depend on you and love you? How would you feel if some street racer killed any of them?
Owning a fast bike doesn't give you the right or the privilege to play games with others safety or lives. Personally, I wouldn't want to live with something tragic like that for the rest of my life. I don't think you "pick your spots" here and there to have fun. I think it's a routine with you and you do it for miles and miles. That's the real problem here.

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* Last updated by: Kruz on 8/27/2023 @ 8:36 PM *

Wow, didn't expect that kind of a sanctimonious reaction on a forum where everyone supposedly rides 200 HP motorcycles

WELCOME to 2023 you dumb fycker

My God, you're still alive 1Bad!!!!

I hadn't heard anything from you since 2018, figured you'd augured in to the back of a semi-trailer at 160 mph or something, I know how you ride the roads you crazy MF'er....

I did my first road ride with you on Bandera Highway 17 years ago, not sure how I ever survived that ride, you were not going slow...

* Last updated by: Kruz on 8/29/2023 @ 4:22 PM *