Wish I had a black helmet on when I took that shot to match my leathers...Rook to the photoshop...LOL!

I'm not sure but I think you're right about the race position. I have my heel on the peg and you're on the ball of your foot. See how your heel is close to the passenger pegs... One more thing could be that you have longer feet and therefore can afford to go further back. I'm a 12 and I don't think I could get that close to the passenger pegs if I were to put the ball of my foot on the pegs.
Also, it looks like I have a really longer tibia...

That's it, I have the ball of my foot on the peg and a size 13 boot. I have to keep my foot way back or I drag my toes in the corners when I get a lean on.

Looks good in the video and the girl isn't have bad either. It goes back to the mission though, at least for me. My current 14 is a great highway cruiser but already way too fast for the roads I ride. I just can't use anymore speed than I already have. My biggest thrills are on my 600 believe it or not!

Looks good in the video and the girl isn't have bad either.

* Last updated by: Rook on 1/10/2012 @ 10:06 PM *

which bring us to this....

CBR1000

Yam R1

I sat on a R1, felt pretty good!!! It doesn't have tons of power and doesn't corner like a CBR. Also the TC is in its infant stage.

The Beemer is still my favorite. Plus it's not a bike that's going to be everywhere. The dealership says that for an extra $500 I can get it with a quick shifter!!!!! Aaaaah Choices.

* Last updated by: dragking on 1/10/2012 @ 10:28 PM *

My thoughts on those three bikes. The R1 is the porky pig of the liter world and down on power. However it's probably the best street bike and the most comfortable of the three and has enormous potential, see Ben Spies.

The CBR 1000RR is a real world match for the BMW everywhere except on the dyno. It is arguably quicker around most tracks under most riders than the BMW and within a hair in the quarter mile while throroughly trouncing the S1000RR in a 80-100 mph rollon. I'd say the Honda has better suspension, gearing, handling, brakes and is 20 lbs lighter.

The BMW is the HP King of The Dyno. If that means a lot to you to swing the biggest stick then this bad boy is for you! More expensive to buy initially and I'm sure parts are going to be off the charts. Neat looking bike and probably not a bike you're going to see someone else riding... so kind of like a Ducati, exclusive.

I'm going to be honest with you, I really like my '07 CBR 1000RR, Honda just has a very balanced package that breeds confidence when you're pushing the pace. Without resorting to fly by wire throttles, traction control or other gimcrackery they make a bike that just flat works. If I'm on a road I don't know, I want to be on my CBR or my ZX-6R.

For me it would be a tossup between the BMW and the CBR1000RR. The new 10R is a great bike and lighter than the Honda but you're going to have to drop some bucks on a pipe and flash to unleash the power of this beast. They really clipped it's nads out of the chute, although 165 HP at the tire is nothing to sneeze at. It's where the power comes in, i.e high rpm, that is the issue. The Graves full system and a PC5 will give you mega midrange and the ECU flash will put you within a few HP of the BMW on top with better suspension,traction control, brakes handling and much lighter! You can pick up the 10R for about $3000 less than the BMW and that will easily give you enough extra cash to play with to build a BMW Buster.The 2011 10r would have dethroned the BMW but for the fact KHI killed the midrange. They built a better bike than the Beemer but lost out in the HP wars.

With the CBR 1000 I would get the most bang for my buck! The midrange and the agility make it really appealing. I'm sure I would also be able to get a good deal on it which would allow me to get some goodies with it. The R1 look is growing on me but the price/performance ratio isn't good. The ZX-10 is a solid bike but a full system, ecu reflash and custom map can get pricy. Money I'd rather spend going to the track. The CBR should be numero uno on my list, it's cheaper, they make lots of A M parts for it... etc. My main concern is how I'll feel seating on the bike. I really hate the ZX-10 lack of midrange so if it comes down to that and the Beemer, it's going to be the beemer. The main drawback like you said is the parts being expensive, especially when you are planning to crash at the track
Thanks for the info Kruz, it really is going to help me decide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=UUzrKTE2DW55HkfvD9EsX0Kw&v=GHkgWgEDbUU

I've owned a few Como's and Roland figured out who has the design nailed.

King can slap them together is the engine. The rest says, see our new center steering nut shavedandshit? See we added more weight to the top crown so the flow is... We'll shut up now and stick our engines in it, who cares what it looks like, it's going to beat yours.

Honda is plain old sharpointshoothegg. It is waddle it is. All that stingy hp for gp only. Trickle down shit to you and sort of gets around it, you don't see it. Can't explain it. Warm it up and it eats anything around... Down the road a piece. CB450 was dominating someone brought one to life. An old works rider, hired gun won and won on a CB350 and that was a few years ago. Byron rolls down a Honda, beats butt looking for Honda to pick them up. That 4 year old Honda 1000 won this year's TT.

I've owned the low esteemotorcyle of the constant. Suzuki is kind of in the cheap seats of the nagging kind of thrown down the road are those that didn't make the upper crust... Alleged. Here, try again and if you want to grade the way a bike is assembled, it's the electronics or just the electrical pieces, we start dissecting some j-boxing.

You see it your way, I'll see it my way.

Yam = No, I'm not into something all well assembled. My heart is in it, but talk to the wrist.
Kaw = I buy engine only... I think accessories come with it if I recall?
Hon = Yeah, butt... My ass is allergic to slow production bikes.
Suz = No thanks... Same ol' has-been there, done that.

CASH WAITING! Is where I am stuck... No place to go... Fender fleeing farking flying flapping my lips enough... Here is a period

Drag, consider a used machine. If you're going to go racing, a $17,000 BMW doesn't make a lot of sense when your lap times might be quicker on an older literbike with some decent midrange punch.....for half the bucks! Only the fastest of the fast can utilize the BMWs topend hit, the less talented among us are going to be faster on a whole slew of less costly machines that have real world power. The 2012 Honda CBR1000RR would definitely be near the the top of my short list but they ain't cheap either! If I had an unlimited budget I'd be more tempted to look at a Beemer...but I don't!
Know this, if you go fast enough, you will drop it, not a matter of if but when. If you pose and never push the limits, you might be able to ride a long time and never touch pavement but what's the fun of not pushing your limits?

I can go faster on my 5 year old Honda 1000RR than on my new ZX-10R most of the time, comes down to where the power is. The old CBR will handle the new 10 up to about 11,000 rpm and has a more stable front end feel when approaching the cornering limit due to a superior HESD steering damper.

This is why I'm not keen to jump on the new bike bandwagon again any time soon. Truth be told I can't really tell that much difference between my 1000RR, 10R or 6R. Well... 6R is definitely short on low end but with the shorter overall gearing from the factory it still pulls out from a stop pretty decent. They are all really, really good IMHO.

So Hub what about the Beemer?
According to MCN:
1. S 1000 RR
2. CBR 1000
3. ZX-10 R
liter shootout

Drag, consider a used machine. If you're going to go racing, a $17,000 BMW doesn't make a lot of sense when your lap times might be quicker on an older literbike with some decent midrange punch.....for half the bucks!

* Last updated by: dragking on 1/11/2012 @ 1:40 PM *

I like the way my 1000RR feels, Honda has a way of getting the ergos just right, a little wide between the legs perhaps and that's about it. The 10R, I feel like the footpeg placement is a bit high. It's amazing what a difference in your confidence levels little things like the bike layout can make. I don't think you're going to get bored with the CBR, it's restricted on topend just like the 10R and lays down about 10HP less stock but the midrange is simply awesome, nothing this side of a Ducati has this much crazy torque right in the middle. The 2012 CBR 1000RR will make the BMW look weak until you get past 10,000 rpm where the BMW really takes off. Most tracks in the Dallas area, midrange is more important than topend. You can derestrict the Honda pretty easily with a reflash to pick up a lot more topend hit if you need it.

Have you had a chance to sit on all four of these bikes yet to see which one suits you best? I think the key is to pick one you can live with, set it up so that it works for you and ride the heck out of it. You'll probably never be able to extract 100% of what any of these bikes has to offer. That's good though, I want the machine to have higher limits than I do.

* Last updated by: Kruz on 1/11/2012 @ 1:41 PM *

"Though I'm worried that I will get bored on the CBR power"

"That's good though, I want the machine to have higher limits than I do".

Kinda lays to rest the idea of not wanting a more powerful bike because 'I'll never use all that' ....hmmmmmm? You guys are TOO FUNNY!Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!14R baby....friggin rocketship!!!!!

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 1/11/2012 @ 1:57 PM *

Have you had a chance to sit on all four of these bikes yet to see which one suits you best? I think the key is to pick one you can live with, set it up so that it works for you and ride the heck out of it. You'll probably never be able to extract 100% of what any of these bikes has to offer. That's good though, I want the machine to have higher limits than I do.

I want something new and don't wanna spend 15k so the only solution is to buy a leftover. The new suspensions, wheels and improved chassis are something I would love to have but I would be getting off a ZX-14 so any liter is going to feel nimble. I may have to upgrade to ohlins down the line.

Talked to the dealer and he has both a leftover 10R and a CBR 1000! The S 1000RR is the best selling liter and there is no leftover so...
How much would you pay for a leftover 10R and CBR1000?

* Last updated by: dragking on 1/11/2012 @ 2:14 PM *

14R baby....friggin rocketship!!!!!

Race for pinks?

Dogo?I traded UP my man.What the heck would I do with your 14?Those 'two reasons NOT to buy a 14R" have just been answered.With your mods and all....are you hitting 197 HP at 10,000?120 Ft/lbs at 7500?(that's a stock 14R) Factory mapping.Stock Pipes.582 lbs wet.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 1/11/2012 @ 2:09 PM *

With your mods and all....are you hitting 197 HP at 10,000?120 Ft/lbs at 7500?

Nope... that's not where my $$$ went and ya know it... I got your number regardless...

my bike: 2.69lbs per hp

14r (stock): 2.95lbs per hp

Bring it!

Green do you have your taller gearing so you don't wheelie and end up in a ditch! lool I'm just saying but if RG had to change it....
I was on the phone with the dealer that's why your message came before mine. But read what I'm saying about McGuiness. You probably have more Hp than he does. Again don't quote me as saying upgrading to the R is stupid. I'm just saying the main selling point of the bike is more HP and I am not buying.

It's (hopefully) all in fun here...all these bikes a friggin great.

Except for the new owners...can anyone EXPLAIN WHY Kawasaki thought it might be a nice add-on to install KTRC on this new bike?

"I'm just saying but if RG had to change it".well...I don't think RG HAD to change it...I think he CHOSE to do that for some R&D on the strip.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 1/11/2012 @ 2:27 PM *

my bike: 2.69lbs per hp
14r (stock): 2.95lbs per hp

Look at you go Dogo. Looks like Green made you get on the calculator. lol
From RG down to the bottom of the list. It amazes, everybody talks about the increase in hp but forget to mention the weight. To get a 14R to trash a 14 you'd have to spend "Ducati kinda money" and that's sad.

* Last updated by: dragking on 1/11/2012 @ 2:26 PM *

It's (hopefully) all in fun here.

I think he CHOSE to do that for some R&D on the strip.

It's (hopefully) all in fun here

Yes, all in fun.