"Bring it, can you get down here this weekend?"...nice timing bro.I've been to Texas. Know this...as soon as I CAN get free...whenever that is....you'll be the first to know...and EVERYONE on THIS forum will know as well.And I'll ride my big bird down there to your 'happy hunting grounds' and give ya a spankin within an inch of yer Pup life.ON VIDEO.I PROMISE THAT.

"And I'm about this close to taking a bath on both bikes as trade-ins"...guarantee ya Hub....you WON'T be sorry.This bike's made just for you,and me.

"We've been sitting here for what, 5/6 years? Add the other down site. Ass long ass mom can hit the can, you can pound miles down the road. Now, if we are talking, she walks out the house,"...she's approaching that....just a matter of time here.I aint goin anywhere that I can't get to her fast.Period.Her balance is going.Her hearing is almost gone.She gets confused over simple things.And scared.Kruz'll have to wait.

See,you guys realize that I didn't ask Hub for a join-in on the street race deal...you know why?Cause Hub's the only guy on this forum crazy enough to slip slide away from anything around him,and ride that broken yellow line around that curve.If it WAS Hub wantin to go for it....I'd have to think twice about it.(the rest of youse guys...yer all fine riders for sure.So don't take that last remark as a jab.The Rooks' and Romans' here...BG's...all you guys...I KNOW you got the balls to rock and roll.

Here's somethin else about this whole deal here...THE OTHER GUYS here didn't ask for a go round.That tells me a whole lot about their riding abilities.Mainly,that they actually KNOW how to roll.So the next time ya think ol Grn is an easy fish to land.....makin fun of somethin ya know nothin about....be careful...you just may get yer wish.I'll be waiting Kruz.One day.One day.

"Grn, your '07 was tired.
Tried to nicely tell ya before... but you got all huffy puffy.
Now don't you go deleteing more shit from that thread.".....where did ANYONE EVER tell me in any way that my bike was tired.And I got 'huffy puffy' about it?Show me that quote....c'mon.Show it.

Kruz?You know where that quote's at?This deal don't need a trip four states over to get THIS thing out in the open.Ball's in YOUR court again....

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 1/12/2012 @ 10:17 PM *

Was referring to the thread I linked a page or so back, Grn... You had mentioned something about your bike not feeling right in a sweeper... I asked when the last time you had you suspension serviced was and you got all pissy with me... Talked some shit... Then deleted it.

50k miles and you never serviced the suspension on your '07... It was tired... really tired... and so am I.

Are you looking at picking up an '11 or earlier version 10R?

I just realized I completely misunderstood you question, DK.

"I asked when the last time you had you suspension serviced was and you got all pissy with me... Talked some shit... Then deleted it".

How convenient

"Hey Mr.Wizard....watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat!" here EVER hear me get 'pissy' with someone's genuine advice towards me about any of my bike issues?

If I DO recall anything about a suspension thing....it was more along the lines of..."yeah,I SHOULD get the fork oil changed...haven't done that in 'so many' miles".In fact...I have mentioned my 'failings' about certain things pertaining to my previous bike and maintenance.Getting 'pissy'?...

Is anyone else's zx14 spaceship 'tired' at 50,000 miles?This I gotta hear for myself.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 1/12/2012 @ 11:10 PM *

Actually, no, Grn. My bike is about as pissy ass it gets. Has the trans improved? Did you sag the other bike? Have you sagged this bike? I hear it has a stiffer suspension. I like it stiff, and don't go there, I'm talking smooth, plush, sagullicious.

Did you go an get me buddy Dogo snapping at the yard fence you waking by? He already lost a toof, chewing on a blue thing that used to come around the neigbored, I bored, hood. Same height, same parts is parts dripping off your shoulders. YOu know anything about that?

That's posse pissy pushing poon tang talking, Grn! Now you did it. Someone said not to use the dil. Okay, I won't use the dil.

"I hear it has a stiffer suspension"....I'm not sure if they actually 'stiffened' the suspension parts.I do know...the rate and way and where it compresses in the fork tubes IS higher up.As for the rear?IDK.The plushness and all that you love is definitely there.Most definitely.But(at least with my rear settings)(which are "STD" in the manual),it felt a lot more 'even' when going through dips and bumps and such at speed...or at parking lot speed.They've done something to it.I think it rides better than a stock 14 for sure...the frame redesign has for sure improved the way she idles around...so it could be kinda of a 'several' things that are making the suspension feel...'improved'?.I only adjusted the front recently just to see how she would react.Minor adjustments.Just with those,the front end tracked more 'solidly' if you could say that.I mean....leaned in and cornering,the front didn't do any 'wiggling' or weaving.She stayed exactly where I put er....rollin pretty good(Over 120)..No drifting to the outside corner or anything.The compression rates are very nice.No diving .No clunking.Very steady and controlled.Even with moderate braking down from 100.She stayed very level and stable.They've also refined the brakes some way....it works very nicely.Nice smooth and strong brake lever feel.Nothing vibey or grabby.Hauled er down really smoothly and quickly.You add that slipper clutch action in those slowdowns(downshifts)...she's very nice.Not a trace of wheel hop...not once.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 1/13/2012 @ 12:42 AM *

And I'll ride my big bird down there to your 'happy hunting grounds' and give ya a spankin within an inch of yer Pup life.ON VIDEO.I PROMISE THAT

Yak, yak yak, when you're ready... bring it, otherwise I'm tired of hearing your gums flap.

* Last updated by: Kruz on 1/13/2012 @ 7:15 AM *

I want something I will be able to use on the back roads, do a little commute not much and go to the track.
A 2011 left over would make me real happy. Beemer has none. Honda deals aren't too good. So I'm left with hub first choice the ZX-10R
Do I need something new, Probably not but a warranty is nice to have. I would also like to know the history of my bike, break it in on a dyno etc, etc.

OK Drag, what kind of deals are you seeing on the 2011 ZX-10R? I paid $12,855 drive out last July for my '11 and at the time that was considered a good deal.

I think the 10R is going to have the most potential, Graves full system, reflash on the ECU and maybe a PC5 and you are going to be stomping Beemer butt and still be waaaay ahead on dollars! The bike is lightest in class, has a superb chassis and excellent suspension. Fix the midrange with the pipe and unleash the top end with the reflash and you have the machine Michael Dunlop won the IOM TT on last year.

The CBR1000RR is a favorite of mine because of the midrange hit but the '12s are up near BMW territory, no discounts around these parts.

Beemer , you're going to take the full hit, finger $18,000 OTD and the midrange ain't all that great either.

I've drunk the Koolaid plenty of times Drag, all of these bikes are excellent, each has it's areas of core competence but when modded their performance lines converge. There ain't a loser in the bunch IMHO!

If you go used, find one with no mods, low miles, garage kept and adult owner. Interview the owner, very important! You're looking for a middle aged dude who bought the bike to polish the fenders and relive his youth. The bike will be pristine and barely broken in, chicken strips will be a mile wide on the original tires. They're out there, check Craig's List San Antonio and Austin for great deals.

Also check Dallas/Fortworth Craig's list. If you need me to, I'll be glad to go by and take a look for you.

Here's somethin else about this whole deal here...THE OTHER GUYS here didn't ask for a go round.That tells me a whole lot about their riding abilities.Mainly,that they actually KNOW how to roll.

No, the other guys didn't ask for a go round because they didn't want to call BS on you....but I will. Here is a picture of your rear tire that you posted. It tells me everythng I need to know about you're riding ability, I could park a GreyHound Bus on your chicken strips.

* Last updated by: Kruz on 1/13/2012 @ 8:04 AM *

DragKing, I like this '08 CBR100RR, low miles and looks sharp, right in your area too. I'd be asking questions though about why the HRC plastics, was it laid over etc.?

http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/mcy/2784738314.html

He says never laid over, I'd ask to see the original plastics if he still has them. I'd go in with a lowball offer here, maybe $7500 and see if he balks.

Also take a look at the '06-'07 CBR1000RR, that's the one that James Toseland rode to the WSBK 2007 World Championship, last time Honda ever won the WSBK I believe. Also Mcguiness set an all time lap record on one back in '07 at the IOM TT, deceptively fast bike that's very easy to ride quickly in the turns. That's the one I have and I really like it. Mine's already got about 7500 miles on it though, gonna be hard to find one with super low mileage from that vintage.

* Last updated by: Kruz on 1/13/2012 @ 9:00 AM *

"Here's somethin else about this whole deal here...THE OTHER GUYS here didn't ask for a go round.That tells me a whole lot about their riding abilities."

No, you asked for the go round, what does that say about your riding abilities?

Anyone else wanna race for pinks? My Mom needs some new wall hangings

I've been on this forum for a longtime Green and you're the only one who talks crap about his riding abilities. Anyone I know that is really fast doesn't need to brag about it, they're riding speaks for them.

* Last updated by: Kruz on 1/13/2012 @ 10:52 AM *

"I've been on this forum for a longtime Green and you're the only one who talks crap about his riding abilities"...last time I checked...I was the one gettin shit talked about concerning 'riding abilities'

"No, you asked for the go round, what does that say about your riding abilities?"...that says I'm willing put mine up against any internet racer here.

Funny stuff!

What's that pic show?That pic shows a tire that didn't need to be leaned all the way over cause the guy ridin it knows how to get out of the saddle and use body positioning to make a faster turn.That's what it shows.Boy,where have YOU been?

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 1/13/2012 @ 11:08 AM *

Here ya go Drag, maybe $12,000 OTD for a brand new 2011 ZX-10R.

http://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2011-Kawasaki-Ninja-ZX-10R-99891657

that says I'm willing put mine up against any internet racer here.

You are the very epitome of an internet racer, like I said .....bring it!

Patience my man...patience.

"For we walk by faith and not by sight" II Corinthians 5:7...

Anyone else wanna race for pinks? My Mom needs some new wall hangings

"And I'll ride my big bird down there to your 'happy hunting grounds' and give ya a spankin within an inch of yer Pup life.ON VIDEO.I PROMISE THAT"

last time I checked...I was the one gettin shit talked about concerning 'riding abilities'

You must be confusing me with someone else, go back and reread my posts. I just said to "bring it" and let the riding do the talking.....and posted a picture of your rear tire. You're doing all the gum flapping about spankin people, read your own posts and draw your own conclusions.

I'm done!

Ummmm...you might want to take another glance at my 'chicken strip' tire there expert....that's...the FRONT tire

I'm not talking about spanking 'people'.I'm talking about spanking YOU.You gotta make this deal fair here Kruz...no riding your motorcycle BACKWARDS....that doesn't count

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 1/13/2012 @ 11:27 AM *

Ok, I can park a Grey Hound Bus on your front chicken strip... are you happy now? Front, rear, who cares, you're still not leaning that thing...straight line rider....yawn!

I'm not talking about spanking 'people'.I'm talking about spanking YOU

* Last updated by: Kruz on 1/13/2012 @ 12:28 PM *

"No, you asked for the go round, what does that say about your riding abilities?"
...that says I'm willing put mine up against any internet racer here.

OK, Grn... Now I am asking.

Click the link above, and show up at one of the days... I will be at all four.

Fastest lap (timed) wins. Loser pays for the winner's day. Since I'm getting a discounted rate, you would owe me $225... I think I would owe you $250 for a single day rate... Second thought, to make it even money... I win, you owe me $225 and a bottle of that high proof Everclear from Mantana... I'm almost out.

That org runs events differently than others... Participants are free to enter, and leave, the track at their own leisure... IE: we won't be stuck in a group together... At this point, I don't wanna ride with you... You feel that you have something to prove, whick makes you dangerous.

Just lemme know (in a PM) what day you can do, and I'll be sure to bring my 14... No need to drag this out in public any longer... Just makes us all look like we have small penises.

Drag,

Couple of other things. Like Kruz mentioned, I'd grab anyone. I think, more the companies demand nothing goes wrong with design. It's in the back of my mind, but I've gotta say, there were less flaws, year after year, rotation after rotation, I'm talking a mad passion about loving and leaving them, and this is going back as far as I could turn a wrench, and this is my fleet, my builds, my buys, new and used... Hold your octobeerfestofflaws... Need I say more, how the pile is as high as Kruz dragging his boots thru this stuff... I think it's a leak in the brew ear we stress'inn straw seen it used/new... Like, think... If me used 89 could not take the crankisspheel, nor the new 96 IS transmission took a shit... Y*Ou think I'm going to buy more shit or a bike?

Needless to say, that is one cat out of the bag, if time is time waste my time on a barf bag under the bike someplace. The next is strike two about the bike being overpriced to begin with. It plummets on the resell, and the cry on that used price the owner won't meet the book, so they can sit on it and wait for the egg to hatch. That little inside crap is why the bike is kraut with crap. Hand me something german, something japanese... I'm talking durable mile after mile, we hand out a check off sheet to the fleet.

The last thing is that counter shock. One shocks the other, but you have less travel time to chase something that takes a few weeks to something that takes a few days. I time a race bike like it takes a few weeks? Well, your piece of shit can't compete with this parts is parts, part for part, I'm losing points. There goes the race day, there goes the track day. There goes my weekend, you, you, piece of shit YOU!

Soooooo, you kind of give it that, check me bike off and what if? What if me bike crash is not my fault, I got tagged by Grn, he though he could handle it. Two days. Yep, like it takes two days, my pink slip bike is up and running again.

Now, all kidding aside, I am struggling on the ape. Same speed, me no struggle on the 14. And I'm talking, wrong gear, I'm out of there. If I'm on anything less, I'm slamming gear to find some torqueway. Since we have a problem withe wife, I'd drop the lower panels off a fresh leftover 14. I'm no racer about to beat every joe blow that shows up on trackday. I'm there to ride as fast as this bike will let me run thru a corner, or do I need to really scare myself and hang it out, get all busted up. The wife has all this on her for who knows how long until you recover.

The wife pulls you aside, says, why don't you be half a Stoner, half a pick a racer wannabee, come back to me. But really, she is thinking ahead. YOu bring back the big boy all tiny nicked up, you won't tag that side again. Lucky it hides when the lowers go back on, she gets on the back, it's all happy hathe Drags, you hatrick that idea at her.

Say honeydove, you know those... ... You like to have with cough-fee? Well, with tax and license, the R and your figure down the road, we could forgo a left over..... OH LOOK!

Leftover Pee SaY... Who's next?

Dogo, year the best! Lucky between you and Kruz this morning, I haven't had me cougHE, or I'd pee spitting it up at me screen.

Both the Honda and ZX-10 look really good.
Like you mentioned the ZX-10R platform has a lot of potential and is M Dunlop weapon of choice. His ZX-10R is supposedly well over 200hp and had the fastest trap speed at the S 100.
Did you say road racing?
martinv.sdunlop
Those guys make it hard to watch motogp.
If I decide to buy new, I'am going to go with a leftover from last year. If I buy used, I'm going to go back as far as 2005, unless I can find something like that Honda for 7 grand max and mileage well under 10k.
My "leftover strategy" is to wait pass the summer frenzy, which will be hard to do, find the best price on the net and bring it to the stealership and ask for $500 off that price, a helmet or some kinda discount.

That 10R at $10999 is a good deal but I'm sure comes fall we'll be seeing 10k maybe 9500 OTD. The dealer told me he could cut me a deal on the 11 CBR 1000 but it wouldn't be as good as the ZX-10R deal. It's only Jan but Kaw dealers are trying hard to push last year models off of the floor. I'm off to the dealer to try the CBR 1000 ergos. If it doesn't work I'm gna be locked and loaded for that ZX-10R.

"At this point, I don't wanna ride with you... You feel that you have something to prove, whick makes you dangerous".Yes....now you're beginning to understand .And crazy....don't forget crazy.

Ah..."out of the mouths of babes".....I don't need to say anything on my behalf...you guys are doin just fine!

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 1/13/2012 @ 1:13 PM *

And creepy....don't forget creepy.

Fixed for ya.

Anxiously awaiting your PM.