.And crazy....don't forget crazy

Well now, that statement pretty much sums it up.

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You guys sure got brave when ya found out about my domestic situation here.Yep...class act I must say.Here's my promise to the both of ya...when time allows...I'll be PM'n ya both.I keep MY word.So don't worry....I won't be forgettin this deal here.Don't bother holdin yer breath either...I want both of you alive and kickin when this thing comes to pass.And it will...in time...it will .

And Dogo...yer gonna have to make up yer mind....you either are gonna ride with me...or not.None of this.."yer dangerous' crap.I aint makin a trip all the way there to have you back out with some excuse about MY riding ability.I'll get there...don't you fret yerself about that.

You and me...riding together.Side by side...scarey...yes...I am scarey.We aint doin any 'separate' track deals.BTW...I aint never been on a 'track',so your 'skills' ought to really outshine mine....no problem.How many laps we get per session?

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...I aint never been on a 'track',so your 'skills' ought to really outshine mine

I have not either... Will likely have a couple days at the Ridge under my belt by then... but still will be first times at ORP and T-Hill.

How many laps we get per session?

Have you even bothered to click the link?... NO SESSIONS... Riders can enter and leave the track at their own leisure.
But no... we cannot go out there and "battle" side by side... We will get sent home... Fastest lap wins.

Still waiting for PM.

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"Still waiting for PM".I already told you MY situation....you've gone from "I concede"...to "you're dangerous"...to...'c'mon down here on 'these' days".Any other excuses you need to make?I said...'I'll be there'...you said "not good'.NOW you want to set it all up?I'll tell ya when I can...as I already said.Don't worry.Just keep practicing.I can't ride worth a darn...you won't have any trouble beating my times.And yes...I did look on the link.

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Limited spots available...

Q. Why do you charge so much?

A. Our pricing is higher than other providers for 2 reasons; Exclusivity and Time on Track with a limited number of riders. We run an open event format, meaning no sessions. Enter and exit the track as much as you wish. The track will close for lunch, but other than that you can ride as much as you are physically & mentally able to.

While other providers cover their overhead by lowering the price and getting as many riders to an event as possible (don't get me wrong, we like money!), but sometimes there is as many as 60-70 riders squeezed into a 20 min session. We think less is better. We limit our riders to no more than 50 a day, ALL DAY.

FAQ's

Still waiting.

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...the idea of THIS worries you?This is what I'm talking about....NOT fastest lap times.I aint spendin NO cash on anything that won't allow me to do this.Period.THIS takes skill.It's okay Dogo if it's too much for ya to handle.I understand.One reason why I ride alone.

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This is starting to sound like a bad movie,with jack nicolson and john wayne,I would love to have the opportunity to ride with Kruz or Doggo.Two years ago I was on 180 near suches Ga.I let two bikes pass me.One was a black 14,so I followed. I kept up for a while,then backed off before I wrecked.Up here you have to go to a track for tight twists.Years ago in Ga.I was told to slow down on the sweepers and concentrate on the tight stuff.His reason was that if you wreck on high speed stuff you usually die.On the twists you live to ride again

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the idea of THIS worries you?

With you, yes.

I aint spendin NO cash on anything that won't allow me to do this.Period.

Then all you have to do is win.

Anyhoo... I've laid it out... can't make it any more simple for you... just will need some sorta notice so I bring my 14.

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One reason why I ride alone.

but not the main one.

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This is starting to sound like a bad movie,with jack nicolson and john wayne,I would love to have the opportunity to ride with Kruz or Doggo.Two years ago I was on 180 near suches Ga.I let two bikes pass me.One was a black 14,so I followed. I kept up for a while,then backed off before I wrecked.Up here you have to go to a track for tight twists.Years ago in Ga.I was told to slow down on the sweepers and concentrate on the tight stuff.His reason was that if you wreck on high speed stuff you usually die.On the twists you live to ride again

It'll happen Darryle... You, me, and Romans... Last one there pays the tab.

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Ya....everyone should ride their own ride...and NOT tell someone else "you're bragging and you think you're better than everyone else" because a guy talks about HIS OWN riding experiences.That's what started this deal to begin with.I don't think I'm the cat's meow or anything else concerning how I ride.I'm riding MY ride.NOT trying to impress someone else.These guys here turned it into some sort of 'putdown' towards my posting about my riding.I NEVER said "you guys can't ride cause you aint doin what I'm doin"...never did I imply that or think that way.I LOVE hearin about guys here talkin about their riding deals...fast...slow...cruising...whatever.There's not enough of that here.When someone DOES post up about somethin they're excited about(other than going to a track)..they get shot to shit.Told they're dangerous.Stupid.Foolish.Hey,whatever.If I roll through my sweeps at 140....that's MY fun.It's not a putdown to ANYONE here.If a guy doesn't like what I share...by all means..tell me I'm an idiot.I'm okay with that.But don't change my meaning of posting into something completely false and meant to get others thinkin badly about me personally.I'm NOT okay with that.I don't do that to other people here...and I kinda expect the same back...especially from guys who've been here long enough to know what kind of personality I have.I've NEVER critized ANYONE on this forum about riding their bike.EVER.And I've NEVER said..."I'm a better rider than so and so"....EVER.

Here's a perfect example.....I say..."I ride alone BECAUSE...."

Dogo throws a punch at me with..."but not the main one".That's what I'm talkin about.BS.Plain and simple.He knows what he's tryin to imply.And so do I.

The REASON I ride alone is NOT because no one will ride with me.
Everyone who has ridden with me ends up so far back...I have to cruise at 70 for 5 miles just to let em catch up.THAT's the truth of it.Who wants to spend their hard earned time off waiting around for someone to stay with em....And that's fine...I certainly don't expect em to ride how I'm riding.And that's why I DO ride alone.Right there.I've done the cruise thing plenty with guys...out of respect for em.But I would like to roll faster than 65 or 70 through the fast stuff that these bikes are made for.Does that make me a better rider?Hardly.Or make them an inferior rider....hardly.EVERYONE decides how they choose to ride.If you're not crashing...you're doing SOMETHING right.Yes or no?

So for you couple of guys here that think I'm a braggart or whatever...get over yerselves.You guys started this with your word twisting....now yer stuck tryin to clear the air.Whatever.I have a blast.I LOVE my bike.And I like to ride her as far to the edge as I can.Live with it.Or not...I don't care.

You see that pic above of those street riders rollin together...that's how me and my bud ride(used to until he started workin in N.Dakota)Him on his Busa...me on my 14.There aren't too many here that love riding so much that they can trust each other in whatever situation might come up.We never wrecked.And I miss these times.It wasn't about 'who's faster' or anything else...just two guys lovin the experience and havin fun together.HE didn't think I was 'too dangerous'...or whatever.And I didn't think he was either...no more than a couple of formation flyers doin their thing.Dangerous...ya....it IS dangerous.Why else are we ridin the baddest sportbike around.So we can stay safe and secure and never have the hair on yer neck stand up?

I mean..c'mon...look at the thread topic...how many have stated 'reasons' for NOT getting the new 14.I wanted something more powerful and updated...plain and simple.Nobody here that got the new bike(including me)said anything about 'rider skills'...except that anyone getting this new bike will probably need to readjust their riding habits somewhat.That's all.No putdowns...nothin.That came from the guys who said..."I don't want one".Fine...then DON'T get one.But leave the slanderin stuff at the door.This forum 'ought' to be a place where we can come together and share our ups and downs and experiences WITHOUT envy and jealousy gettin in the way(I understand someone sayin"I'm jealous"...I get it).I LOVE the 14...all years.PERIOD.I think she's the best sportbike out there.PERIOD.I don't care if anyone turbos their 14,...throws a 1550 kit into it.I'm all for it.New pipes...more hp...awesome.Riding skills is NOT the deal here.Enjoying the ride...sharing YOUR experiences,how you took that curve....all that...that's what this is about.Plain and simple...without the BS insinuations that get interjected in here with regularity.

I seriously doubt that Rossi and Spies and those guys sit around when they're talkin about how they ran a race and tell each other.."Oh,so now you think yer better than"....and what makes those guys any different from any of us here?...Timing.Being in the right place at the right time for them.There's most likely 'great' riders right here on this forum...if it weren't for timing.I give em their props..hell yeah.But in reality...they're the same as us.Guys who love to ride.And were fortunate enough to be at the right spot in time.This is our spot.Our time.Right here.Just as awesome as 'their spot'....I could never ever even approach the level of a Rossi or a Spies or whomever.I'm not supposed to.That's why they're there.I sure aint jealous if they get a Brand new Beemer to ride doin what they love.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 1/13/2012 @ 4:16 PM *

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My E-Penis is bigger than your E-penis!!!

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This is a wierd ass fucken thread. I was subscribed to see where this went. Fucken nowhere. An embarrassment. Dumb to post why not to buy a 14r in a fricken 14r forum. Dumb to have the forum. It's the longest thread here on 14r's. And it's basically a comparison to ss/track bikes. Like, don't buy a 14r cause a klr will kill it in the dirt. Oh, and don't forget, buy used! Cause the 14 is really mainly about pinching pennies. I was very patient to watch and maybe learn something or be entertained. Neither occured. Sad. Please let the title of this thread die. Most searching for info and enthusiasm on the 14r will be off'd by this. Why do that? On both sides....

Now, all kidding aside, I am struggling on the ape. Same speed, me no struggle on the 14.

Yeah I know what you mean but in a magazine some writer said that the busa and other hyper bikes were the weapon of choice for people who wanna go fast without changing speed. loool I don't know if it's an insult or a compliment.
Whatever bike I get next, I'm not trading my 06 in, we'll either crash together on some back roads or let age bring us to retirement.

I'm there to ride as fast as this bike will let me run thru a corner, or do I need to really scare myself and hang it out, get all busted up. The wife has all this on her for who knows how long until you recover.
The wife pulls you aside, says, why don't you be half a Stoner, half a pick a racer wannabee, come back to me

Hub! I thought you were "balls of steel" are you "cutting the grass".
My 06 can take me and the wife coast to coast. Does the 14R has more grunt? Sure, better suspension? I bet, however, 20 hp, more grunt and better suspension is not going to save me from those lunatic in cages. She looks sweet, I would love to have her and I will 5 years from now but now is the time to hone my skills. I used to play ball, I was top of the food chain in H-S and my two years in college so I need something competitive to do. I see Dogo registering for track, Kruz locked and loaded and others I can't help it. Hate to do stuff half way.
Any normal male I think should be like that. It's rooted in the DNA. At the beginning of time getting a meal, included long walks, probably some free climbing and fighting over leftovers with a Puma. Or more recently, you would go to a bar and after getting call a liar, you'd get asked for a pistol duel. Now you just grab the key of the camry and off you go. The more secure and the more easy life is going to be and the more extreme sports and other recreational activities are going to get. The occasional weekend at the track and the back roads adventures... it's not like I'm getting ready for the TT. I know you kinda watching out for the wify and I but don't worry she's a trooper, the only time she complains about me riding hard is when she's not on the bike. She rides with me rarely though. I wouldn't want to get somebody else addicted to this stuff. There has to 1 sane person.

So I went to the dealer today AND what I have to say is... the CBR 1000 is the real ninja. I mean this thing is so well balanced, you feel confident just sitting on it! Kawazaki can keep their top end. The CBR ergos work better for me too. She seems to be more compact but handle bars are higher. The seat feels higher too but I'm not sure. Again the way the weight is balanced on this thing is incredible.
The dealer had 2: an used 2010 with 500 miles. They told me an older guy traded it for a cruiser after finding out his wrists couldn't take it. They are asking 10k no way Jose.
The other one is the 2011 which is practically identical.
My suspension upgrade should be done by the end of the month, After that it's track day time (can't let Dogo get all that training in) and if I like it which I think is a given. I'm playing inception with Mrs Dragking.

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@ Kruz
How long is the College station track's straight? 1.5 miles? Thinking about taking the 14 over there.

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LOVE my bike.And I like to ride her as far to the edge as I can.

Just not to the edge of the tires apparently.

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@ Kruz
How long is the College station track's straight? 1.5 miles? Thinking about taking the 14 over there.

That I don't know Drag but man you've been bitten by the racing bug!

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So I went to the dealer today AND what I have to say is... the CBR 1000 is the real ninja. I mean this thing is so well balanced, you feel confident just sitting on it! Kawazaki can keep their top end. The CBR ergos work better for me too. She seems to be more compact but handle bars are higher. The seat feels higher too but I'm not sure. Again the way the weight is balanced on this thing is incredible.

I'm tellin you those CBR's are sweet and mine outgrunts my 14 down low! The ZX10R have similar midrange with the pipe though. What about the 10R ergos, how did it fit?
You cannot lose with either machine IMHO.

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This is starting to sound like a bad movie,with jack nicolson and john wayne,I would love to have the opportunity to ride with Kruz or Doggo.

When I read Green's last rant I was thinking of Alfred Hitchcock's "Pyscho".... lol! I sure hope Green don't own any motels!

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This is a wierd ass fucken thread. I was subscribed to see where this went. Fucken nowhere. An embarrassment. Dumb to post why not to buy a 14r in a fricken 14r forum. Dumb to have the forum.

C'mon, lighten up will ya, that's what I like about this forum, it can go almost anywhere and the entertainment value alone is worth the price of admission!

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Dumb to post why not to buy a 14r in a fricken 14r forum

Is this forum sponsored by Kaw. Are you? I see a thread like that on a busa forum, I'm pointing my finger and hollering "haters". Seriously though. I didn't know people were going to be so sensitive when it comes to the 14R. I own a 14 and am planning to get 1 in the future. This was just supposed to be "two reasons". Like look at what Beemer and Ducati are doing. You're right though, it should have been in "other bikes". I can see people searching for ZX-14R info and stumble upon this... not nice! Then again, after reading the first 3 replies one should be able to tell where this is going. NO?

It's the longest thread here on 14r's.

I agree. It's a shame 14R owners are not more talkative but come summer people will ride more and there will be more/longer threads.

Oh, and don't forget, buy used! Cause the 14 is really mainly about pinching pennies.

You lost me there! Most liters and hypers are around 14 grand. You can have a used 14 for 6 grand. That's a lot of pennie pinching, exhaust, suspension, some minor mods let's say $9000. This is an awesome deal.
Go to bikeland most of the guys who buy 14R are guys who wanted more power and they are still modding right away. Searching for even more power and trying to shed weight. If I have to spend 14 grand, I can be ok with either spending more money on a lighter, more agile bike or shedding weight but not both. My budget isn't yours though so...

Most searching for info and enthusiasm on the 14r will be off'd by this

We're talking about the 14R... it'll survive, especially if it's what it's supposed to be. I'm not in awe but will eventually get one. If you want a 14R and decide otherwise because of this thread, then it means that you were confused. Just like if you're "thinking" about upgrading, you probably don't need to. If you want more power by all means 14R baby! But when I see you show me you're getting all the 200hp worth. Don't make it a bike night conversation piece.

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I could never ever even approach the level of a Rossi or a Spies or whomever.

Nah, don't sell yourself short there Green.

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This thread is not about hatin on the 14R, everyone of us own a 14 and think they're awesome machines, 14R is more of the same but better in many ways. This thread has just kind of morphed and taken on a life of it's own. Hey it's great,everyone gets to air out there opinions in a public forum. If this was on the new 10R, I wouldn't take offense cause someone didn't think it was all that, even though I own one. It's just a motorcycle fer sobbin out loud!

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