I sat on 1. I wouldn't make it down the block before my hams start cramping. I wish though, they are fun and relatively inexpensive.

OK Drag, it is what it is but I found a lot of that stuff eventually goes away. Biggest problem I've had is some residual neck pain, you're position is way lower than a 14, back flatter and I was getting some neck soreness.

Problem areas are wrists, neck, lower back, knees and the occasional thigh cramp you mentioned. All symptoms have gotten better with time on the bike, price of admission the way I see it. A 14 is like riding a chopper after getting off one of these, the sensation is really high and wide, never had a single issue on the 14.

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Good to see Bean07 Mate check in on this thread. We will see Bean on a liter in '12?

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I wish though, they are fun and relatively inexpensive.

You said a mouthful right there Drag, bang for the buck is off scale with a 600. Which brings me too a point, buddy just picked up an '11 750 GSXR. Best of both worlds really, almost as light and flicks like a 600 but the torque is there so less frantic on the shifter. I like frantic though, reminds me of racing a 125cc two smoke back in my motocross days.....PFF....Pure Freekin Fun!lool!

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Mickey D's 10R is a monster. It makes more than 200hp! In the vid I posted they're saying you can hear the difference between Dunlop's, Martin's bikes and the rest.

Mother K built a ton of potential into the new 10R, it is a screamer and better overall than the BMW but unfortunately got neutered in the US version.

I notice it's a Relentless Racing GSXR 10000 out in front in that video with Dunlop's 10R nipping his heels. No Beemer in sight lool! That Suzuki is an excellent racing platform even though it's been Ron Pauled by the media.
Beemer is Mitt Romney right now, media darling!

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Stay away from '04/'05 ZX10R, there's a reason they call it the "widowmaker", ask Dogo why...lol!

Don't like playin' human lawn darts? Wuss.

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Sorry Dogo, ultra short wheelbase, 600 size and weight,powerband like an on-off switch and no steering damper is way too scary for me. It did win the Masterbike twice but those guys are all pro level riders. For lesser mortals, my CBR is plenty!

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BTW, the new 10R is a pussycat by comparison, it's as easy to ride as a CBR, really no bad habits!

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Must of got too hot over here for Grn Dogo, looks like he moved on to his own thread and we're not welcome lool! He may just be waiting in the shadows, gettin ready to pounce! Without simple green there's no more entertainment over here....lool!

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buddy just picked up an '11 750 GSXR. Best of both worlds really, almost as light and flicks like a 600 but the torque is there so less frantic on the shifter.

Sat on 1 too, nice motor but same chassis, OUCH lool

Don't like playin' human lawn darts? Wuss

Noooo way, You should have gotten that on vid though!

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Hey, just read all 18 pages of this. Looks like I was late to the game. Missed most of this one. Does that mean I buy ?

Must of got too hot over here for Grn Dogo, looks like he moved on to his own thread and we're not welcome lool! He may just be waiting in the shadows, gettin ready to pounce! Without simple green there's no more entertainment over here....lool

I'm sure we're welcome there! loool I stopped by right after the first post. They have got a couple of good fellows over there who know what they are talking about! The problem with this thread is that people who had positive reviews about the 14R didn't feel at ease. They thought they were going to be yelled at or something. Check this out:

I do ride the twisties, and owned 2 other 14's ('06 & '08). I haven't really got on it yet, but can confirm that it feels a lot more agile. The suspension is still on stock settings, and feels well planted in long sweepers. It changes direction well in the tighter stuff and I was dragging toe sliders on my first spirited canyon ride.
It is easy to ride around town. Easy u turns, throttle is not twitchy down low, and haven't had a missed shift or had an off start stall yet. Once you twist the throttle and hit the mid range it comes alive. Grn14 has gone over all that so I won't beat it to death.
I pulled the throttle plates on my '06 and it made it a whole new bike. I can feel from the low end that pulling these would wake this motor up even more too, but it is such a smooth motor, I am hesitant to do it.
I sold my '08 about a year ago, so I didn't exactly "upgrade." I was in the market for a new bike, so the price was not a problem. All bikes that I would consider were in the same price range or more. Would I sell a 2010/11 just to have the new and improved? Probably not, especially if I still owed money, because you will take a hit. I do like the subtle styling improvements (I know that is subjective), improved comfort, improved suspension, solid motor, perfect clutch, seamless traction control (WAY better than my Ducati's), lighter feel, improved cam chain, etc., so if I still had my '06 with a lot of miles I probably would step up, but that is just me. Not putting down the '06 at all. By the time I sold my '06 and finished modding it, it felt as fast down low as the new one, but just for reliability, comfort, and that extra mid-top end punch I would step up.

I could have said the same thing but without a 14R is my garage, I'm just an asshole lol. With low mileage, good power mods and suspension work by the end of the month, I have got postpone my 14R or Busa (if they manage to top that 1).

You guys with the 14R enjoy,If I could afford the bike and a divorce I'd get one LOL!!! My wife would kill me!!! they're selling like wild fire around here SW Virginia. Really want one but priorities kid in college, mortgage, Staying married. Actually going to be taking my buddy to pick one up on Wed. He doesn't have a truck, So I volunteered for him. Think I'm gonna wait a few years, let all you guys figure out what works and what doesn't how to get the most power out of one which mods are good and sort out the traction control. My 08 still scares the heck out of me sometimes. I wanted an 06 but decided to wait and got an 08, good thing didn't have to remove the flies. Maybe they'll do another mid-cycle revamp like in 2014/15??? Then I'll be all in, buying a bike would you guys wives consider that divorce me material?

Yep 2014/15 sounds good. I want my bikes to be all they can be with bolt-on mods and I don't have the talent to try to fix bugs. By then most of the bugs will be worked out. The Guhl reflash will be operational etc and the 14R weakness identified.
Those quotes are from UKniker and silver14. Thank guys I hope you don't mind.

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Hey, just read all 18 pages of this. Looks like I was late to the game. Missed most of this one. Does that mean I buy ?

If you think this was entertaining, you should have read/see the posts that got deleted.

You are going to buy it and you're going to be the mod R&D guy for this forum. The only thing that makes me sad is the canadian price! That's bullshit!You got a turbo so I'm thinking you're pulling the flies on the 14R within a month. If you don't.... I'm kneeling in front of the closest kawazaki plant I find.

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If you think this was entertaining, you should have read/see the posts that got deleted.

Y would post be deleted ??

Does that mean I buy ?

The first round.

You got a turbo so I'm thinking you're pulling the flies on the 14R within a month.

Turbo in 2.

Y would post be deleted ??

BTW, the new 10R is a pussycat by comparison, it's as easy to ride as a CBR, really no bad habits!

But didn't you say you liked your '08 better???... Dat one was a squirter too. lol

Must of got too hot over here for Grn Dogo, looks like he moved on to his own thread and we're not welcome lool! He may just be waiting in the shadows, gettin ready to pounce! Without simple green there's no more entertainment over here....lool!

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Romans, welcome to the party, better late than never! Dragking poked a big stick in the hornets nest lol but it looks like it's all settling down now.

But didn't you say you liked your '08 better???... Dat one was a squirter too. lol

Well it had way more low and midrange with the Akra Evo and PC3 and with all the mods was just as light. New bike has better suspension and quicker turn in. I think I miss the hard hit from 5000 with the '08. It was a headshaker though which was part of the fun.

The new one is a better racing platform, the old bike was unstable and the more power you added the worse it got. I don't think anyone won a lot of races on one.

The new one is the best handling 10R ever but midrange is gutted. This is quite easily fixed though and the bike is
then one of the best ever to hit a track.

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I vote this most entertaining thread ever next to the Jeffo thread. We had Grn wound up like an old grandfather clock....lool!

It sounded like a delivery room with all the spankin that was goin on!

* Last updated by: Kruz on 1/15/2012 @ 6:13 PM *

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Dragking, that sounded like an objective review of the 14R.

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Hey Romes,Kahuna OTD 18500,Twowheels Guelph 400 to 500 less,NRC about 300 less.Not rushing as Kaw/Can gave Hindle a test bike.We gotta get it together,we can ride to brokeback mountain.I believe one of the 14r owners and his buddy do their reviews there

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http://youtu.be/3KU1QbomHfk

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I am going insane! How do you gather all these people to do stupid stuff? Grn? I see the neighbors playing one instrument. I she pee poles with heads between the meat and two sides, but why didn't they use a head prop for large marge?

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You do gravitate to the... Dogo!

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Dragking poked a big stick in the hornets nest lol but it looks like it's all settling down now.

yeah, watch when I post a pic of the next hayabusa!!!!
We're going to get more death threats than a new president lool

Dragking, that sounded like an objective review of the 14R.

Yeah most def. You know I saw a 14R vid made by a member of this forum. He did a few "spirited" but nothing extreme 0-45mph, 0-60mph. I didn't feel it was that different from a flies-less 06 with a good pipe and tune. Uknixer confirmed it. On 2008 you can leave the flies in but I'm thinking than the 06 without flies got an advantage. With the 14R you can leave the flies in and you have a bit more grunt than the flies-less 06. Not bad. The big advantage the 14R has is going to be the top end. I'd dissect everything that comes out of RG's mouth since he works for kaw but his top end numbers have been proven at the drag strip: Trap Speed doesn't lie. I bet you that just before redline the 14R weight doesn't matter but I know what you are going to tell me, you are not a drag racer. At least that's what I would say. lool Still count me in for 2015! My 06 should be at 60k miles and CBR/ZX-10R a complete track weapon.

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"With the 14R you can leave the flies in and you have a bit more grunt"....speaking of Hornet's nests....with all due respect...HOW do you come by this information?

"I didn't feel it was that different from a flies-less 06 with a good pipe and tune"...and just how would you know how the 14R 'feels'....uhmmmm.....okay....well...just thought I'd stir shit up atad....give you guys a bit of fodder for your next 'bash the 14R' go round....Flame on boys!

I can't speak for UK Nixter...but I'll tell ya right now....the thrust with this new baby is NOTHING like the 06,07 without flies.VEERRRYY different.

"The big advantage the 14R has is going to be the top end" Really?.Try doin a full throttle twist in 1st with the new bike.Go ahead...Ktrc off...I DARE ya.Get some vids of it while you're at it...we all need to see how lousy this new bike performs .Especially...ME....I must have gotten the freak of the production run.Something just isn't right with my 14....She wants to keep lifting at 2500 rpm.

You know,I also thought about Kruz and Dogo...with their 'offer'.You guys...you want to race....come on up here.Seriously.If you desire to prove how much better you are....c'mon up.It's all good.Ride your 14's here...or trailer em.There's miles and miles of open course roads here we can go on that'll give either one of ya plenty of opportunities to leave me in the dust as it were.You won't need to be concerned about some track guy tellin ya..."knock it off or yer outta here"....go as fast as ya want...for as long as ya want...and of course...the option to "leave the track at your leisure".Now there it is.You guys seem to want to have me "get there yesterday"...well,I can't.But YOU can come up here....anytime.Stay a week or so.Get some practice rides in.Then,we can get out on 'my' challengeless roads and you guys can kick my azz.I'm an old guy.Shouldn't be ANY problem.Really.I'm here....this is yer invite.You don't REALLY want the chance to show everyone here how awesome you are do you?Think of the fame you'll receive!...I'll even sweeten the pie...you can choose WHENEVER you want to be here...I won't be going anywhere...except for our ride days.I CAN work that out.

THAT's entertainment!I have the cameras....you can file the wins away for your kids to look at....or if ya just need to show all yer buds your road racin skills!Great opportunity.I wouldn't let this pass by.No track monitors...no taping headlights or safety wirin anything.Mirrors and such can stay on.What better deal than that!NO speed limit.Great roads...FUN FUN FUN!!!!NO worries about 'when" we can go.You show up...I'll make the time and day(s) of it.NO problem for me to do it that way at all.Lemmie know....you'll have a real blast I tell ya.

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Seriously.If you desire to prove how much better you are

Desire to prove?... Give me a break... Started as joke... you flipped out... You know when and where I will be... show up or drop it.

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