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Created on: 03/10/11 06:05 PM

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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/10/12 11:11 PM

privateer; Part of the problem is also the media. There's a lot of great racing in other places than 1st - 3rd, but you don't see it much, unless first has a huge gap. When you start using computers and electronics for safer racing, and to even the field, you also play into the richest team's hand because they have the money to spend on R&D to get the most out of it. Is the ECU, electronics, and software part of the "motor" in the claiming rule?



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EPIC 500cc 2-stroke Racing
09/11/12 11:30 AM

Watch this. 500cc 2-stroke, Rainey versus Schwantz. EPIC.

No traction control. No electronics. All man over machine. Look at those wheelies, we used to love to sit trackside and watch those monsters wheelie coming off apexes and slide 3 feet.

The section for Assin 1991, I was there, sitting on a rain soaked grass berm that had turned to mostly mud. The rain stopped for the GP, the 250s had a clear track too.


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More....
09/11/12 11:46 AM

They went as fast then as the MotoGP bikes today, without anything but their balance, wrist control, and balls to control the fire breathing dragons they rode....


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USGP, Laguna Seca 1991
09/11/12 11:52 AM

I was there, sitting in at the bottom of the corkscrew....



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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/11/12 12:09 PM

@alg8er - I don't actually know if the ECU microcode and tables are part of the Claiming Rule bike platform, but I do know if you claim a bike, you get it all, so you get the microcode and tables in the ECU.

So my guess is, the platform is standard across the board, and the racing pretty much confirms that. CR bikes race each other in the second "half" section of every MotoGP race. They never race the factory bikes.



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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/11/12 11:10 PM

The FIM rules state:

“MSMA manufacturers have the right to purchase the engine of a motorcycle entered by a CRT immediately after a race, for a fixed price of:
“20,000€ (twenty thousands Euros) including gearbox/transmission, or
“15,000€ (fifteen thousands Euros) without gearbox/transmission.

“A maximum of four engine claims can be made against one CRT in any one racing season. An MSMA manufacturer may not claim more than one engine per year from the same CRT (i.e. a different claimant for every claimed engine of the same CRT).”

Once a claim is lodged, and to ensure that the engine 'bought' is the real deal and not a toned-down version, the following procedure will take place:

“To lodge a claim under the Claiming Rule, an MSMA manufacturer must inform Race Direction in writing after the start of the race. In the case of more than one claim lodged against the same team, the claim lodged first will be recognised, and other claims dismissed.

“Provided that the relevant CRT has not already been subjected to the Claiming Rule four times that season, Race Direction will request the Technical Director to securely identify the used engine immediately after the race.

“The CRT must make that engine available at Technical Control within two hours after the identification, to be handed over to the successful claimant by the Technical Director. Race Direction will inform IRTA of the successful claim, and IRTA will ensure payment and receipt of the claiming fees between the two involved Teams.”

The ability to 'claim' engines obviously clashes with the MotoGP engine-change limits mentioned previously [12 per season for a CRT]. Therefore...

“If a CRT loses an engine due to [the Claiming Rule], an additional engine will be allowed in the affected rider's allocation,” read the FIM rules.



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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/12/12 11:58 AM

So we really don't know if they include the ECU or not? Well, its a moot point, because like with my 2012 Concours 14 ABS, there are at least 3 companys (my choice is Guhl of course) who know what every table is for, and what every section of microcode is for.

So I doubt there is much mystery about what makes a CRT engine go fast.



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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/12/12 10:57 PM

I was thinking more traction control setups, than engine management.



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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/13/12 12:12 AM


Having already confirmed Nicky Hayden and announced Andrea Dovizioso for the Ducati Team, the Italian manufacturer now reaffirms its confidence in and commitment to the MotoGP World Championship, finalizing its line-up for next season with two riders who are fast and competitive, already protagonists in the MotoGP and Moto2™ World Championships.

At the same time, the partnership has been renewed between Ducati and Pramac Racing, which will continue to be entrusted with the management of the satellite team. The two riders, who have a direct link with the company, will be supplied with official equipment.

This agreement will enable additional important support in the development of the Desmosedici MotoGP project, offering a further opportunity in the process of improving the performance of the Italian bike.



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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/13/12 2:36 AM

@alg8er - traction control is easy, any team can make it as good as they want it to be. Even Guhl can make changes to traction control on our street bikes, but for legal reasons he won't, and he couldn't make it any better anyway.



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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/13/12 5:27 AM

@dragking - Second only to my wish to see Mother K return to winning ways in roadracing (hey Sykes, hows that tire-eating ZX10R working for ya?) is my hope to see Ducati return to winning ways.

I have been a fan of Ducati since my teens. In 1984 I got a beautiful 900 SS Hailwood Replica in Ducati Red.

But I kept going back to Big Green.



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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/14/12 2:08 AM

Kawasaki is looking good. BMW is just too focused right now and Aprilia has the best bike and the best riders (as a team). Other manufacturers are lucky Haslaam is not consistent. Tom Sykes may just be too heavy, his riding style is probably not helping either. He's consistent with the poles and if they manage to fix that issue, they'll be in good shape. They also have this other rider, it's a shame I can remember is name because he's a fellow french man. He looks promising, my only worry is his size. As for MotoGP, I'm not sure they'll be back anytime soon.
Ducati was too proud. They should have been nice to Stoner! Everybody including Rossi and Ducati underestimated his talent now they're paying dearly.



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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/14/12 4:22 PM

+1 @ dragking

Stoner is a big loss now that he as retired. His smoothness and consistant lines were machine-like.

In WSB, Kawasaki looks very good, but the 10R is eating tires. I don't think its Sykes weight or the that he pushes too hard, lord knows the top 5 all push as hard as they can.

That beemer could go two races on the same tires. So could the Aprilia.

At risk of going too far off topic, my dad owned an Aprilia for a while when I was like 3 or 4. I got to ride sitting on the tank in front of him a couple times. But he liked his Harleys better.

Anyway, I think the beemer and Aprilia bikes are easier on tires because they deliver the power more smoothly. Not talking about wrist control, talking about the timing of the crankshaft and pistons.

For a while, we thought the 2010 ZX10R would finally deliver the big-bang engine, but it never materialized. I suspect it would have eaten tires even faster.

I think Big Green is going to have to come up with a new inline 4 layout and theory and take the ZX10R into the future.



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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/14/12 5:53 PM

Yep, you're right it's probably the motor delivery. As for Aprilia... I'm not surprise it wasn't your Dad favorite, those bikes live for the track.
It's sad but the liters evolve so fast, I'm already thinking about WSBK next year. I'm wondering if Checa is going to jump on the Panigale. I heard he was testing it! Next year war could be focused on suspension... Ducati released the electronically adjustable forks and shock, BMW with the HP 4 and instantaneous suspension adjustments HP4...



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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/15/12 2:10 AM

Melling's opinion



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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/15/12 1:21 PM

I agree with that guy!

f you don’t ride at MotoGP speeds on the public roads God has already pre-installed very effective anti-wheelie and traction control devices: they’re called a right hand and a brain.



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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/19/12 9:10 AM

Which was true of all my bikes until my 2012 Concours 14 ABS.

Although I think I could get it to wheelie, the landing might be too hard, lol... she's a bit front heavy.

But the traction control won't let me slide her in a corner, no matter how hard I try.

I used to slide my ZX14, not WSB or MotoGP slide, but 6 inches or so, and back when I could actually ride my ZX10R, I slid that around a lot.

The more we go into the future, the more we won't be able to do that, unless we buy a homologated track bike like the ZX10R where you really turn it all off if you want.

Oh, and the 2014 Concours 14 will probably get the ZX14R engine and ECU and frame, so it get your style of traction control but I'm sure they will keep K-ACT and linked brakes and ABS.



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RE: MotoGP Fan
09/20/12 11:51 AM

Although I think I could get it to wheelie, the landing might be too hard, lol... she's a bit front heavy.

She definitely will. I have seen two guys do it and they were substantially heavier than you!



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RE: MotoGP Fan
02/10/13 1:43 AM

2013 season almost here!

Sepang MotoGP testing feb. 7th

Dani Pedrosa completed a clean sweep of fastest times on the final day of 2013's opening MotoGP test at Sepang.
While times had been extremely close on Tuesday and Wednesday, Pedrosa moved clear on day three.
The Honda rider set the best time of the week with a 2m00.100s lap, 0.329 seconds clear of Yamaha rival Jorge Lorenzo.
Valentino Rossi was only 0.113s behind Lorenzo on the second Yamaha in third place. The Italian felt on Wednesday that he was already up to speed and would have matched his team-mate but for a mistake on his best lap.
Rookie Marc Marquez had his first blip when he crashed at the final corner during the morning. He was unhurt and rejoined later to secure fourth.
Cal Crutchlow was best of the rest once again on the Tech 3 Yamaha, with his new team-mate Bradley Smith eighth behind Stefan Bradl and Alvaro Bautista.
The works Ducatis of Nicky Hayden and Andrea Dovizioso fell back to being two seconds off the pace in ninth and 10th, while Pramac's Andrea Iannone was outpaced by CRT leader Aleix Espargaro's Aprilia.
Iannone was the only Pramac rider in action as Ben Spies chose to skip the final day to rest his still-recovering shoulder.
One of the best performances of the test came from Paul Bird's rookie rider Michael Laverty, who was second-fastest among the CRTs, only 0.2s behind Espargaro.

Pos Rider Bike Time Laps
1. Dani Pedrosa Honda 2m00.100s 44
2. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 2m00.429s + 0.329s 60
3. Valentino Rossi Yamaha 2m00.542s + 0.442s 60
4. Marc Marquez Honda 2m00.636s + 0.536s 54
5. Cal Crutchlow Tech 3 Yamaha 2m00.734s + 0.634s 3
6. Stefan Bradl LCR Honda 2m01.003s + 0.903s 43
7. Alvaro Bautista Gresini Honda 2m01.502s + 1.402s 48
8. Bradley Smith Tech 3 Yamaha 2m02.093s + 1.993s 48
9. Nicky Hayden Ducati 2m02.184s + 2.084s 60
10. Andrea Dovizioso Ducati 2m02.277s + 2.177s 43
11. Katsayuki Nakasuga Yamaha 2m02.616s + 2.516s 21
12. Aleix Espargaro Aspar Aprilia 2m02.628s + 2.528s 47
13. Andrea Iannone Pramac Ducati 2m02.864s + 2.764s 35
14. Kosuke Akiyoshi Honda 2m03.082s + 2.982s 28
15. Michael Laverty Paul Bird Aprilia 2m03.874s + 3.774s 47
16. Randy de Puniet Aspar Aprilia 2m04.066s + 3.966s 39
17. Wataru Yoshikawa Yamaha 2m04.137s + 4.037s 8
18. Hector Barbera Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m04.211s + 4.111s 41
19. Takumi Takahashi Honda 2m04.288s + 4.188s 46
20. Danilo Petrucci Ioda Suter-BMW 2m04.531s + 4.431s 34
21. Karel Abraham Cardion Aprilia 2m04.766s + 4.666s 65
22. Hiroshi Aoyama Avintia FTR-Kawasaki 2m04.915s + 4.815s 51
23. Claudio Corti Forward FTR-Kawasaki 2m05.107s + 5.007s 41
24. Lukas Pesek Ioda Suter-BMW 2m05.321s + 5.221s 40
25. Yonny Hernandez Paul Bird Motorsport 2m05.407s + 5.307s 48
26. Colin Edwards Forward FTR-Kawasaki 2m05.913s + 5.813s 46
27. Bryan Staring Gresini FTR-Honda 2m05.970s + 5.870s 41


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RE: MotoGP Fan
03/26/13 4:45 PM

MotoGP Jerez Test Day 1 Results 2013:
1. Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha) 1’47.423
2. Dani Pedrosa (Honda) 1’48.474
3. Marc Marquez (Honda) 1’48.524
4. Andrea Iannone (Ducati) 1’48.984
5. Michele Pirro (Ducati) 1’49.292
6. Valentino Rossi (Yamaha) 1’49.443
7. Nicky Hayden (Ducati) 1’49.643
8. Cal Crutchlow (Yamaha) 1’49.692
9. Stefan Bradl (Honda) 1’49.790
10. Andrea Dovizioso (Ducati) 1’50.266
11. Ben Spies (Ducati) 1’50.957
12. Yonny Hernandez (ART) 1’51.269
13. Alvaro Bautista (Honda) 1’51.277
14. Karel Abraham (ART) 1’51.333
15. Claudio Corti (FTR-Kawasaki) 1’52.034
16. Bradley Smith (Yamaha) 1’52.047
17. Danilo Petrucci (Suter-BMW) 1’52.180
18. Hector Barbera (FTR-Kawasaki) 1’52.291
19. Hiroshi Aoyama (FTR-Kawasaki) 1’52.676
20. Colin Edwards (FTR-Kawasaki) 1’53.992
21. Bryan Staring (FTR-Honda) 1’56.119
22. Lukas Pesek (Suter-BMW) 1’56.413
23. Michael Laverty (ART) 1’56.931


MotoGP Jerez Test Day 2 Results 2013:
1. Valentino Rossi (Yamaha) 1’39.525
2. Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha) 1’39.540
3. Cal Crutchlow (Yamaha) 1’39.574
4. Dani Pedrosa (Honda) 1’39.630
5. Andrea Dovizioso (Ducati) 1’40.322
6. Alvaro Bautista (Honda) 1’40.686
7. Marc Marquez (Honda) 1’40.714
8. Stefan Bradl (Honda) 1’40.783
9. Andrea Iannone (Ducati) 1’41.088
10. Nicky Hayden (Ducati) 1’41.325
11. Hector Barbera (FTR-Kawasaki) 1’41.376
12. Bradley Smith (Yamaha) 1’41.398
13. Aleix Espargaro (ART) 1’41.444
14. Danilo Petrucci (Suter-BMW) 1’41.529
15. Michele Pirro (Ducati) 1’41.603
16. Randy de Puniet (ART) 1’41.686
17. Claudio Corti (FTR-Kawasaki) 1’41.701
18. Ben Spies (Ducati) 1’41.702
19. Karel Abraham (ART) 1’41.916
20. Yonny Hernandez (ART) 1’42.050
21. Bryan Staring (FTR-Honda) 1’42.107
22. Colin Edwards (FTR-Kawasaki) 1’42.154
23. Hiroshi Aoyama (FTR-Kawasaki) 1’43.959
24. Michael Laverty (ART) 1’44.185
25. Lukas Pesek (Suter-BMW) 1’44.874


MotoGP Jerez Test Day 3 Results 2013:
1. Cal Crutchlow (Yamaha) 1’39.511
2. Valentino Rossi (Yamaha) 1’39.735
3. Stefan Bradl (Honda) 1’39.975
4. Jorge Lorenzo (Yamaha) 1’40.105
5. Marc Marquez (Honda) 1’40.130
6. Andrea Iannone (Ducati) 1’40.331
7. Nicky Hayden (Ducati) 1’40.370
8. Andrea Dovizioso (Ducati) 1’40.516
9. Michele Pirro (Ducati) 1’40.881
10. Randy de Puniet (ART) 1’40.971
11. Bradley Smith (Yamaha) 1’41.134
12. Aleix Espargaro (ART) 1’41.218
13. Claudio Corti (FTR-Kawasaki) 1’41.443
14. Hiroshi Aoyama (FTR-Kawasaki) 1’41.772
15. Lukas Pesek (Suter-BMW) 1’41.791
16. Karel Abraham (ART) 1’41.864
17. Yonny Hernandez (ART) 1’42.363
18. Danilo Petrucci (Suter-BMW) 1’42.428
19. Michael Laverty (ART) 1’42.470
20. Bryan Staring (FTR-Honda) 1’43.525
21. Colin Edwards (FTR-Kawasaki) 1’56.281
22. Hector Barbera (FTR-Kawasaki) 1’56.897


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RE: MotoGP Fan
03/26/13 4:51 PM

Below is the statement by Kevin Schwantz provided by 3FourTexasMGP. - Bryan Harley March 20 2013

“I have read several reports regarding my attendance at the MotoGP test last week in Austin. I would like to make this statement:

"I had been in Switzerland over the weekend where I was the guest speaker at the St. Gallen University. I returned to Texas on Tuesday evening and on Thursday I was at CotA for the MotoGP test, with a proper credential supplied by the Attack team, to coach Blake Young. Additionally I was an invited guest of the LCR Honda team.

While there, CotA security informed me that CotA management requested I leave the track immediately and was not welcomed at the circuit. CotA's security force also accused me of criminal trespass and warned I would be arrested the next time I entered the track.

This comes as a tremendous disappointment to Honda, Blake Young, and myself. Especially because I am single-handedly responsible for bringing MotoGP to Texas and for the initial design of the facility to accommodate MotoGP racing."



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RE: MotoGP Fan
03/28/13 9:22 AM

And a follow-up posted yesterday:

The verbal war continues between former 500cc Grand Prix World Champion Kevin Schwantz and the Circuit of the Americas, after the Texan was escorted out of the CotA circuit by track security from the private Honda/Yamaha MotoGP test last week, despite having proper MotoGP credentials and being an invited guest of the LCR Honda team. Afterward, Schwantz issued a statement describing his experience, which included CotA track security informing him that he was "guilty of criminal trespass" and would be "arrested" if he ever set foot on the grounds again.

This resulted in CotA spokesperson Julie Koenig Loignon issuing a counter-statement that read in part, "It is well known that Kevin Schwantz filed suit against Circuit of The Americas last year, and that case is working its way through the legal system. The MotoGP test that was hosted by the Circuit last week was a private event, and open only to participating teams and invited media. Mr. Schwantz was not invited to attend the session by Circuit of The Americas, and as a private property owner, (CotA) determines who has access to its facility...Circuit of The Americas is the organization responsible for bringing MotoGP to Texas through its promotional agreement with the commercial rights holder Dorna."

Returning fire, Schwantz issued this statement looking to clarify the situation:

"Last week, Circuit of the Americas (CotA) issued a statement suggesting I had nothing to do with bringing MotoGP to Austin. Unlike others who have had disputes with CotA, I am free to speak my mind. So let me set the record straight: I am the reason MotoGP is coming to Texas and no one currently associated with CotA had anything to do with the design of the actual racetrack. There's no shortage of evidence to prove these facts.

The Schwantz statement then goes on to list various forms of proof in his side of the CotA dispute: "On February 2, 2011, Dorna CEO Carmelo Ezpeleta sent me a letter confirming that 3FourTexasMGP, my company, is the 'sole rights holder for MotoGP in the state of Texas for the years 2013-2022.' On February 3, 2011, Comptroller Susan Combs sent a letter to me and Mr. Ezpeleta confirming that the MotoGP U.S. Grand Prix would be included in the state's Event Trust Fund beginning in 2013. In that letter, the state comptroller explained that the annual funding would be sent to 3fourTexasMGP, 'the rights holder for all MotoGP events in Texas.' On April 12, 2011, at the request of the state comptroller, a press conference was held announcing that MotoGP was on its way to Texas. Finally, on July 22, 2011, Mr. Ezpeleta sent a letter to the state Comptroller saying that 'both Kevin (Schwantz) and I are positive that the measured success of our events in Texas will be fantastic for both the state of Texas and MotoGP.'

I have spent too much time and money the past five years on this project, including helping the Comptroller during the 2011 Legislative session and CotA in raising money, for me to sit by and allow this repeated misinformation to continue. CotA's attempt to downplay my involvement with Austin's MotoGP event is silly, but some of the group's other actions may verge on something far more serious. It is my belief that just like the F1 event, they are attempting to rewrite history in an effort to qualify for one of the Texas Event Trust Funds."

The last sentence in the Schwantz statement refers to the state of Texas' METF (Major Events Trust Fund), a huge tax slush fund that is earmarked for assisting with major sporting events (NFL Super Bowl, MLB World Series, etc.) that would result in local retail and sales tax windfalls. When Tavo Hellmund -- the person credited with the vision of the F1 race on an Austin circuit and helping to gather the money behind construction together -- was still involved with CotA, state comptroller Susan Combs was fervently behind the project, and had originally scheduled $25 million of METF money each year for the duraction of its F1 contract to be slated for the track to help with costs despite political pressure against the move. But when Hellmund was forced out and the future of the race became in doubt as construction was temporarily halted due to the circuit's futile attempts to negotiate with F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone, Combs quickly yanked away the METF money and made its disbursement contingent upon the event being "reviewed and analyzed for its economic impact, and only after the race occurs (will) any funds be disbursed."

According to Autoweek, CotA eventually did receive a reported $29.3 million of METF money in December after the November F1 event, although the reimbursement payment was said to be based on increased sales-tax revenue estimates submitted to the comptroller's office in August 2012, and not on the actual revenues themselves. While an initial report showed that Austin received a significant boost in hotel revenue compared to the same week the year before, the actual increase was well below what was forecast in the economic impact projection estimate in the application for the METF funds. The comptroller's office said it will conduct and complete a post-race study within the next 18 months in order to comply with the Texas METF statute.

The CotA PR battle with Schwantz may have some unintended negative consequences...

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RE: MotoGP Fan
03/29/13 12:55 AM

Why does everything in America have to be porked?



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03/29/13 1:05 PM

COTA is doing a major screw up by hassling with Schwantz. Laguna Seca just published an official invitation for Kevin for the MotoGP race there, kind of a "In your face COTA!"
I hope the egos at COTA pull their heads out of their collective asses soon.

Mad



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05/24/17 12:28 AM

Bored and ready to hubbish the rubbish... so anyway, sometime back on another website someone opened a gp thread and they started in with their predictions. I made mine and I said: 'yammie and either one of those guys, Jorge if can steer it, Zarco as the backup someone blows it up front.' It's been one wild ride for each one so far.



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