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Thread: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc

Created on: 08/26/11 12:00 AM

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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 12:55 PM

Thanks. It must be somebody else on the forum. Don't remember who. I wish they came up with more colors though! 3? If the Busa guys make the switch everybody is going to look the same.


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2006 Ebony Black ZX14, Flies gone, Power Commander V, Brock's CT-Single, Brock's Street/Race Map, Schintz Racing Flash, Brisk Racing Spark Plugs, BST Wheels with World Bearing Ceramic Bearings, Scott Rotary Steering damper, Ohlins KA544 shock, FPK Ohlins kit, Brembo GP4 RX Calipers, Brembo RCS 16, Brembo RCS 19 with no Drag Half Lever, Spielger Front and Rear Brake Lines, Braketech Axis Cobra Front Rotors, Galfer Rear Wave Rotor, Shorai LFX21A6 battery, Sato Racing frame sliders, Zero Gravity Racing Screen/MRA double bubble Racing Screen, Rizoma universal lux billet grip, Rizoma Next Fluid tanks, Rizoma Swing Arm Spools, Pro-Bolt tasty Nuts, Gilles rearsets, Sargeant seat, Geelong small tank protector, Geelong Hugger, Bike master magnetic oil drain plug, vortex gas cap, cox radiator guard, Xenon HI's and Low's.

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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 1:02 PM

Working up my speech to the wife abot how I need to get a new bike... be practicing in a mirror will start soon, have to get the sad puppy dog eyes down before I pitch it to her...

looooool

Brock's better lock himself in that dyno room and not come out until it reads north of 200 hp



2006 Ebony Black ZX14, Flies gone, Power Commander V, Brock's CT-Single, Brock's Street/Race Map, Schintz Racing Flash, Brisk Racing Spark Plugs, BST Wheels with World Bearing Ceramic Bearings, Scott Rotary Steering damper, Ohlins KA544 shock, FPK Ohlins kit, Brembo GP4 RX Calipers, Brembo RCS 16, Brembo RCS 19 with no Drag Half Lever, Spielger Front and Rear Brake Lines, Braketech Axis Cobra Front Rotors, Galfer Rear Wave Rotor, Shorai LFX21A6 battery, Sato Racing frame sliders, Zero Gravity Racing Screen/MRA double bubble Racing Screen, Rizoma universal lux billet grip, Rizoma Next Fluid tanks, Rizoma Swing Arm Spools, Pro-Bolt tasty Nuts, Gilles rearsets, Sargeant seat, Geelong small tank protector, Geelong Hugger, Bike master magnetic oil drain plug, vortex gas cap, cox radiator guard, Xenon HI's and Low's.

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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 1:20 PM

Brocks has most if not ALL of their current 14 systems listed to fit the 12 also! Yippee!

BST's are listed as fitting '06-'12 also.


I think that most current 14 parts will still fit the new bike as well!!

That is a bonus... Saves big bucks on mods if/when we make the switch.



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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 3:49 PM

Looks good, performance is on point to named King again (against the beemer) but will keep my 09SE... Got to hear the reviews on her first before even considering an upgrade...


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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 4:45 PM

You guys see the secondaries in that one shot?.....REMOVABLE!!!!!

IDK - but wouldn't removing the secondaries disable the KTRC and Ride Modes? I'm pretty sure that's one of the mechanisms that the ECU uses to apply what the wheel sensors tell it to the engine??? Again, IDK and I am by no means an expert, but it makes sense. Just don't think with all the elecs that pulling the flies is gonna net any gains on this one.



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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 4:50 PM

IDK - but wouldn't removing the secondaries disable the KTRC and Ride Modes?
That would make th eride modes irrelevant but AFAIC it already is. The busa is always on full full power. that switch might be a nice turbo button.



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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 5:01 PM

IDK - but wouldn't removing the secondaries disable the KTRC and Ride Modes? I'm pretty sure that's one of the mechanisms that the ECU uses to apply what the wheel sensors tell it to the engine??? Again, IDK and I am by no means an expert, but it makes sense. Just don't think with all the elecs that pulling the flies is gonna net any gains on this one.

That's what I'm thinking... No matter anyhow... With that head and cams, 44mm TB's have gotta be restricting a bunch of power... Me thinks bigger TB's are gonna be a must for those wanting to unleash the beast within... Exhaust system, 47mm TB's, and a PCV or ECU flash and 200-210rwhp dyno #'s will be common.



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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 5:15 PM

I think that this new bike is gonna open up a whole new can of worms where mods are concerned! ECU Flashes, big throttle bodies... This is gonna be nice!



Life may begin at 30, but it doesn't get real interesting until about 150... Ride or die!

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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 5:16 PM

We're fucked! Buying the Aprilia and being stuck with that. And now reading what this bike is now? We are fucked! YOu have no clue where the tuning just went! It was ripped away as was the carb and ignition. The more the bike is refined electrically, we are handcuffed buy the idle-less cable.

That black color? "Adjusts me nuts in me undies" has my hands all over that selection!


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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 5:27 PM

Fucking A! You motherfuckers get all the rear tire traction you slam on the brakes like in a panic and I do not use the rear brake >>> Load a look at that shit they are doing for you foot and fancy freeloaders! You fucking average JOE BLOW it out the ass!

FUKINNFUN gimme a brake!



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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 5:29 PM

We're fucked!

Somehow, I knew Hub would say that...



Life may begin at 30, but it doesn't get real interesting until about 150... Ride or die!

2010 SE(Black/Titanium) - PCV,Piper X Filter,Dual Rad Fans,Muzzy Rr Fndr elim,Pro Tek Frm Sldrs,PM Heathen Wheels,PM Chrome sprocket,Corbin Canyon Dual Sport seat,Brocks CT Duals,Shorai LFX18A1-BS12,CRG Roll-a-Click levers,Cox Radiator Guard, GP Thunder 8500k 65W Hi/Lo-Beam Xenon blbs,Engine Ice,Flush mount front turn signals,MRA Spoiler Screen,HeliBars 1" bar risers,Goodridge Stainless Steel Brake Lines (F/R) and a Powerbronze Hugger fender - More coming!

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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 5:46 PM

Did I tell you about that idle screw- ING you just got, TOE BREATH! Yeah, you, the marketing buy boy of the toe steppers. They listened to you joe average and not the turtle. Slow WATT?

The more I read about this and no, she is new engine family, not much in or out of her parameters are going to work with the ol 1352cc. Too much change had to occur, you being the expansion of X and Y. Think about it. Now, at a farther distance shot, I like the 'spider dash' look at the corners. Must be a shit load of warning lights for most of those blocks. It's about time this looks like a cockpit. I'd bring in hatrick gear select photo, but the more I read about this bike, the more I'm getting happy to see the mods and then... Run me the fluclover with the bus. Idle can't stand it!

I'm going to have to buy this and be stuck with the ape and spideR, both without an idle cable. Welcome to the new tune her up her... I guess I have to go with the flow. Anyone wanna buy mule2? Only needs a battery. Is cable ready. Well maintained. Has service records written all over it.



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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 6:09 PM

^^^They gonna sell a lot of those^^^
Would look even better with the wheels from the green SE that have the little bit of polish, IMO.

No more bt014's... Nobody will complain about that.


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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 6:12 PM

I knew the new electro were going to keep hub busy!

I wonder how Suzuki going to answer that?

I wish I could put they new dash on my 14 but will all the apps... there is no hope!



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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 6:31 PM

Look at curb weight


2012 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14R Specs:

Engine: Four-stroke, liquid-cooled, DOHC, four valve per cylinder, inline-four
Displacement: 1,441cc
Bore x stroke: 84.0 x 65.0mm
Compression ratio: 12.3:1
Fuel system: DFI with four 44mm Mikuni throttle bodies
Ignition: TCBI with Digital Advance
Transmission: Six-speed
Final drive: X-Ring chain
Rake / trail: 23 degrees / 3.7 in.
Front tire: 120/70 ZR17
Rear tire: 190/50 ZR17
Wheelbase: 58.3 in.
Front suspension / wheel travel: 43mm inverted cartridge fork with adjustable preload, 18-way compression and 15-way rebound damping adjustment / 4.6 in.
Rear suspension / wheel travel: Bottom-link Uni-Trak® and gas-charged shock with adjustable preload, stepless rebound and compression damping adjustments, adjustable ride height / 4.9 in.
Front brakes: Dual semi-floating 310 mm petal discs with dual radial-mounted four-piston calipers
Rear brakes: Single 250mm petal disc with twin-piston caliper
Overall length: 85.4 in.
Overall width: 30.3 in.
Overall height: 46.1 in.
Ground clearance: 4.9 in.
Seat height: 31.5 in.
Curb weight: 584.3 lbs.
Fuel capacity: 5.8 gal.
Color: Metallic Spark Black, Candy Surf Blue,
Golden Blazed Green with special graphics (SE)
MSRP standard / special edition: $14.699
Warranty: 12 Months
2012 Kawasaki Color Options/MSRP:

Metallic Spark Black / $14,699
Candy Surf Blue / $14,699
SE Golden Blaed Green with graphics / $14,899

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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 6:32 PM

I'm doing exactly that. Running around for bungs and sniffer parts. "Design me out of the picture, hawlie." Here is my eurostanding. Short of having a hand held to click the rpm's down in 25 rpm increments, how can you save fuel with that many rpms at idle? How can you brake without all that anit-chatter engineering kicking in.

We are talking deep diving and it chunk-Chunk-CHUnk-CHUNKS the front end, washes out or plows the front end = Stupidesign!

Fucough Kawi! This is not Euro! Round the 2nd gen back with a fucking idle cable! Peeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzz!


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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 6:36 PM

You touch a fucking idle screw....... You are fucking screwed! The idle screws have you lockedown! One tuning mod the fucking A! I hate bikes now!

I'm buying up every leftover! No one listens to turtle so chunkayway baby!



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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 6:51 PM

One tuning mod the fucking A! I hate bikes now!

We will adapt and over come

I'm buying up every leftover! No one listens to turtle so chunkayway baby!

No your not. New for you,,,,Bet ya, Ten bucks. Hub you NEED something to disect. It's who U R

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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 6:52 PM

How are you going to PC now? I have to physically see the bike. Can you and I think you can, maybe, it's only a number, right? Can you; see that that idle needs to be sniffed? If you cannot hand turn the idle down, a sniffer has to set that back down = 02 sensor'd.

That is my guess, unless it is tune-able still = Open Loop still in play with a fly by wire? It may have 44mm bodies, but electrically, there is that sensor most cars use these days. A car guy would know that name of the sensor used. And it has to be hackable without a handheld. Maybe the car guys have an easy fix or do I remain in a tuning fit?

Wait up, I'm catching my breath. I gave that aprilia an 'Italian tuneup' [i did not coin that]; ask, ninja with his AF1 gang of comedians. Yeah, to balance the sync? You need a factory tool with a sniffer that runs off the header pipes. You balance the euro like that.

Get it wrong, the idle goes high. Now, does 02 learn back to the same idle? Will the learning of the 02 process, scotch your PC grid change? If the bike is in closed loop? YAFuckedaygain!!!



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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 6:52 PM

Look at curb weight

Yep... 17.6lbs HEAVIER than 2011... I expected it to loose weight.


2011 zx14 specs:

Engine Four-stroke, liquid-cooled, DOHC, four valve per cylinder, inline-four


Displacement 1352 cc


Bore x Stroke 84.0 x 61.0 mm


Compression Ratio 12.0:1


Fuel System DFI® with four 44mm Mikuni throttle bodies


Ignition TCBI with Digital Advance


Transmission 6-Speed


Final Drive X-Ring Chain


Rake/Trail 23 degrees / 3.7 in.


Front Tire Size 120/70 ZR17


Rear Tire Size 190/50 ZR17


Wheelbase 57.5 in.


Overall Height 46.1 in.


Overall Length 85.4 in.


Overall Width 29.9 in.


Front Suspension / wheel travel 43mm inverted cartridge fork with adjustable preload, 13-way compression and 11-way rebound damping adjustment / 4.6 in.


Rear Suspension / wheel travel Bottom-link Uni-Trak® and gas-charged shock with adjustable preload, stepless rebound and compression damping adjustments, adjustable ride height / 4.8 in.


Front Brakes Dual semi-floating 310 mm petal discs with dual radial-mounted four-piston calipers


Rear Brakes Single 250mm petal disc with twin-piston caliper


Fuel Capacity 5.8 gal.


Seat Height 31.5 in.


Curb Weight 566.7 lbs.


Color Choices Candy Lime Green / Ebony, Ebony


Warranty 12 months


Good Times™ Protection Plan 12, 24, 36 or 48 months



Oh well... Overall, I like the new bike... but will likely do atleast one more year on my '08 before going after the "R"... will be very nice that most of my mods, especially suspension and wheels, will swap whan I do.



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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 6:55 PM

Same brake rotors.



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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 7:06 PM

Shehoseapants! That is all she wrote. I'm getting enough practice tuning the tuono. The R is going to become the overcum all over that bike. But the thing is, are we 02? She more or less closed down the PC trade... Unless you rather run without a dash. I have no clue how much they are closing down the tune for you guys.

I'm a stockermodderodderaceset. Who needs a stink'inn pee see where I'm going with this? Not me... Maybe it is you that has to come to the other side. See my bike all in peace is? Quiet on the westorn front. Yep. Tore out the battery. Needs battery. Has new har dee har air cleaner. Yep, the original old '06 air cleaner. But no, you didn't listen to turtle.

Either way, you, you western ears, euro new kind of ride is going to get fucked no shit the bike is 'top model.' BTW, not much is interchangeable on the frame side as well. It's all shewhodeewhackered.



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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 7:06 PM

I'm pretty sure that by removing those two rear mounted cannons and going with a full system it'll be at least 30lbs less on the scales...

No ABS...

PCV should work - there's one for the ZX10R...Assuming the same or similar ECU?



Life may begin at 30, but it doesn't get real interesting until about 150... Ride or die!

2010 SE(Black/Titanium) - PCV,Piper X Filter,Dual Rad Fans,Muzzy Rr Fndr elim,Pro Tek Frm Sldrs,PM Heathen Wheels,PM Chrome sprocket,Corbin Canyon Dual Sport seat,Brocks CT Duals,Shorai LFX18A1-BS12,CRG Roll-a-Click levers,Cox Radiator Guard, GP Thunder 8500k 65W Hi/Lo-Beam Xenon blbs,Engine Ice,Flush mount front turn signals,MRA Spoiler Screen,HeliBars 1" bar risers,Goodridge Stainless Steel Brake Lines (F/R) and a Powerbronze Hugger fender - More coming!

2009 ZX10R CBO,Saddleman Trk Seat,Piper X Filter,Cox Rad Guard,Shorai battery,CRG Levers,Galfer SS Lines,Driven SBOP,Yoshimura Frm Sldrs,Speedo Healer/X-TRE/17-44 Driven grs,Bazzaz ZFI-QS w/Map switch,MJS Perf Ceramic Coated Race header,Akra SS mid pipe/CF Evo Slip on,R@G Racing Case/Front Axle sliders,Rizoma Veloce L Mirrors,Hyperpro Steering Damper,MRA Spoiler Screen,Servo Elim,Evotech Exh Hanger,CF Rr Hugger(Ohlins,Marchesini,coming s

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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 7:07 PM

Same rotors? Where did you read that? It's same lever feel. Rotors have been sheduedeer'd.



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RE: 2012 Zx-14 1429cc
10/10/11 7:10 PM

Here we go already. Change those cannons and there goes the:

1. Leave at the light.
2. Read top model.
3. 10mm swing extended
4. Read #1. Period!



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