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Thread: Tire Pressure for Street

Created on: 05/17/13 03:33 PM

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RE: Tire Pressure for Street
05/21/13 10:05 AM

hmmm!? Weird. The bike was definitely turning sharper and I felt like I had to reach for the handle bar more, the setting in the second pic is definitely more comfortable. Also the guy who did my suspension is reputable and does track days, and provide service to racing teams. I'm trying to see if I can get a hold of him before I go to work this pm.

* He explained to me that he cranked everything up (first pic) so that the spring could break in and when I came back we readjusted to the current setting. The forks were never dropped, the geometry was just altered via suspension, sorry about the confusion.


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RE: Tire Pressure for Street
05/21/13 10:06 AM

Usually a few degrees off. Not a click out.


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RE: Tire Pressure for Street
05/21/13 10:09 AM

My preload



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RE: Tire Pressure for Street
05/21/13 10:12 AM

It is so simple to check. Stick a screwdriver in slot. Turn righty. Stop when you feel it come up firm. Do not force it. Count clicks. Back out same #. Do other side. If # is off, cblast is right. If # is same cblast is wrong. Either way at least then you will know and your front rebound will be the same.



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RE: Tire Pressure for Street
05/21/13 10:22 AM

* He explained to me that he cranked everything up (first pic) so that the spring could break in and when I came back we readjusted to the current setting.

I'm going to take a valve spring, clutch spring, springayding, oh yeah, and a nickel and compress it. You come back to me after the spring is broken in? How's my new shinny nickel look now? Looks the same to me? Oh, you mean way way down the road there is some sag against the book's window of sag, you run a few miles and the spring gets broken in?

I put a bunch of bricks in your trunk and compressed the rear spring. In a week or so, that florida rack is going to be style'inn that stance once broken... Say, is that car all at the same height after I removed the brick shit load was that he said?



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RE: Tire Pressure for Street
05/21/13 11:29 AM

Cblast: forked are matched. 4 clicks out on both.
I think I need more preload for sharper steering because like I have said the bike was sharper with the previous setting. Also you seem to have more than I have which is the ticket in my opinion.

I put a bunch of bricks in your trunk and compressed the rear spring. In a week or so, that florida rack is going to be style'inn that stance once broken... Say, is that car all at the same height after I removed the brick shit load was that he said?

On a new spring, I would say the car would seat a little lower but it's broken in, it should be any change unless you go above max rating. When the spring get old, you may seat a little lower and that's time for replacement.
The spring didn't break in enough for my liking but then again, I lost 20LBS so that could explain it. I need to get dialed in again and again this fall when I put the weight back on LOL

Couldn't get a hold of the suspension guy and we're expecting some hail later on. I will keep you guys informed!


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RE: Tire Pressure for Street
05/21/13 12:03 PM

You'd have to spin one fork to match the analing. Then, this would cock the axle some if you change out tires, you'd have to dial the axle in again on the one fork float.

Or am thinking this way? Say for argument sake we have two holes on a flat surface. I have a drill. The cutting tip rests at 9 o'clock and I now dig into this material with this tap. I stop the drill, the tap rests on the next hole at 5 o'clock and now I tap that hole.

Both my screws are perfect as the flat lines up with the first thread of the screw. I start at the 9 o'clock hole and the flat lands at 9 o'clock by one full turn in. Do you see how those two flats would not line up if they were tapped [for the screw] into the cap cover or whatever that piggy rides over?



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RE: Tire Pressure for Street
05/21/13 12:13 PM

I just can't see a fork spring sag to .001" when the book says to toss the spring sag @ .0015" sag. See for argument sake how long it would take to sag a spring? I have this sharp knife. Keep cutting for a week until it dulls. Maybe I'm missing something about this oil and spring crap about breaking in fresh parts.

Pun intended but isn't wear a 'progressive' kind of wear? Chew on this for a week so your teeth break in? I'm going to assemble this engine and set the timing/valves/etc it's all done. I'm going to blow up this ball and break it in before I let the NBA play with it. I'm going to give the little league new balls to break in so the yank keys is give me that bike, sit here.


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RE: Tire Pressure for Street
05/21/13 12:14 PM

Hey, hub, I get it.....

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RE: Tire Pressure for Street
05/21/13 12:17 PM

You don't need a suspension guy Drag! There are a bunch of em here. If you look under the 14r specific thread I wrote some crap about setup on my bike that might be of use. You can do this yourself. In twenty minutes in your garage with a screwdriver. And your bike will handle much more correct. You won have to rely on the voodoo of the suspension gods. I don't have time for that. I am too busy worshipping the great paperclip! Obd2 all hail the paperclip.


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RE: Tire Pressure for Street
05/21/13 12:45 PM

all hail the paperclip.



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RE: Tire Pressure for Street
05/21/13 1:12 PM

You'd have to spin one fork to match the analing. Then, this would cock the axle some if you change out tires, you'd have to dial the axle in again on the one fork float.

Makes sense. Also my forks could have switched a little bit during the high side but I'm not even going to start worrying about that. Down the line if there is some problems, I can't always get the Ohlins forks I wanted

You don't need a suspension guy Drag! There are a bunch of em here. If you look under the 14r specific thread I wrote some crap about setup on my bike that might be of use.

Takes to much trial and error and I'm both picky and impatient. Also I can't go with the manual because I have an Ohlins kit in the forks. The guy that did the suspensions knows more about where the change were made and what affects what and besides I get adjustments for free. Plus the road to get to his shop has a huge sweeper. I'm aiming for a setting between what I have now and what was originally done. Also the shock is now too stiff... but I digress.



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RE: Tire Pressure for Street
05/21/13 5:22 PM

'Makes sense. Also my forks could have switched a little bit during the high side but I'm not even going to start worrying about that. Down the line if there is some problems, I can't always get the Ohlins forks I wanted'


Gotcha! That does sound good! :)



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