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Thread: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs

Created on: 12/08/12 09:22 AM

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pegscraper



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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
02/28/13 12:41 PM

Mebgardner,

I know the type of car alternator you are talking about which have the RR built into the alternator itself. Infact, some modern cars have no rectifier at all and the regulation is controlled by the ECU. The 14 alternator is neither type. The 14 alternator has only 3 wires from it which is the outputs from the 3 stator windings. It has no rotor windings, which in a car type alternator would be supplied with a variable small field current used to control the output voltage. This type of alternator is invariably bigger which is probably why they are not used in bikes due to size constraints.. The stator on the 14's alternator (and most motor cyles I've come across) is composed purely of magnets. The regulator is probably a simple diode/resistor arrangement. You will notice the RR has the appearance of a large heatsink and is bolted to the metal frame which will also aid heat dissipation.

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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
02/28/13 3:00 PM

Thanks, Guys.

Really, thanks, but I'm done for now. Let the lights shine on :)



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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
02/28/13 3:10 PM

A-C = Balance is Ohm's Law or think like this ~ For every action there is an equal balance.
A-C = Output is a wave. Think like this ~ A wave coming to shore begins flat, peaks, then returns flat.
A-C = I am going to act as a low current and build up to peak current. Lift off the gas, the wave subsides.
A-C = Waves can be captured at both ends, meaning, capture both actions.

Volt/Reg/Rect = One box to capture both waves, covert to D-C, and dump the excess A-C.
VRR = The A-C comes in as 2-waves. The one way switches inside the box see the other wave and sends it to [ > ] direction.
VRR = Has 3-variables and can walk in a 101001010110 kind of capture/dump/capture/capture/capture/dump direction.
VRR = Has many type of resistor parts like diodes that can move the wave in this < direction, or 10 is the walk say.
VRR = Has 3 moves and this direction moves to ground [ >| ] is this symbol and now can be used as 00 in computer speak.
VRR = Can capture both directions, use the preset resistors/diodes to move thru the 1's and 0's so 14.2v is displayed.
VRR = Can see the rpm increase, cannot take the excess A-C output in the higher range and dumps it to ground [ >| ].
VRR = Can now be seen as regulating both in input of the fluctuating wave, know if it can move it thru the resistors or dump it to ground, so it does not overload (heat) the resistors, nor cook the battery: is this simple but complex device.

Battery = Is a simple resistor/silo/distributor.
R-RSD = The resistor part is if you did not have the battery in between the two cables, tied both the pose/neg together, the VRR would think the battery is dead [going to >| and then open to full range trying to bring the battery back up to 14.2v say. Now you have 15-16v at a 12v bulb and she blows. Because the box can be built to take on any input range, but for the VRR, she cuts off around that range so it does not [again] over cook the battery.

S-RSD = The holding tank, the current needed if you add up the watts to the bulbs running. Math is not my strong point so all I know is, the battery can hold a little more than a bright light being turned on for a few minutes of high beam and some warm gloves. Try draining the battery with key on and walk way. In a few hours it might be bright to yellow bright? Yellow dim you have the high beam on and set the brake light on, is still a lot of battery keeping those bulbs glowing.

D-RSD = The distribution will tax what? The VRR. Why? Because instead of going to ground and cooling faster, it's feeding battery with the HID/Gloves/GPS/Radar/Tunes/Cig lighter/Vibrator-she comes for a ride [the bike being too smooth a ride]... I hear.

P = Wattage is how much power is my bulb? 3w or a 65w bulb?
E = Voltage across a battery is how much is left in reserve? Is my battery up to snuff @ 12.8v [ideal] static?
I = Current thru a wall or a cloud? How much am I going to lose pushing one molecule against another down a wire made of copper/lead/water/etc.
R = Resistance can be measured in how much power will it take to run in a cloud, thru water, in mud, quicksand, my light bulb does not look bright like when it was new. WATThe blankitty blank should I look for? No, where the fork should I start? I have 3 guess IS!

Keep it going, meb. Correct me you see a need to clean it up. I used my own abstract for the same thing. We completed 3 jobbers. Alt-Reg-Batt. Yours is more complex with a 4th variable, correct?


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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
02/28/13 7:32 PM

You're amazing, Hub.

I could not have said it better.

Hell, I could not have said it at all. You're really amazing to me.

Keep it going? You are too kind. I decree you should have the Last Word.

I can do that, right?



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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
03/01/13 2:34 AM

Keep it going? You are too kind. I decree you should have the Last Word.

I can do that, right?

Your call. The thing is, guys like you inspire me. I understand the 3 concepts of the bike. The concept of the formula is just so close I can taste it. But it would take years to figure out how to work that down to a science. Make your own circuit boards, the software to make it move, etc.

It's the formula, grabbing the correct part, in fact, if I played with electricity instead of bikes, I'd know most of the parts to a circuit board, be forced to know formula or I'd burn up every idea.

This is where I step back, let you EE types explain it... Before you say it, let me say it first. "I've got nothing for you, I'm heading back to camp." ... You watch Survivor(?), you'd see the reverse [polarity] of it.

This way Over My Head



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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
03/01/13 7:10 AM

MARTIN61 ! NO PROBLEM don't worry :)

put pictures on this topic :)

RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
02/26/13 11:18 PM

I am waiting on these, ordered last week.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PIAA-5100K-Southern-Star-White-H11-JDM-Headlight-Fog-Light-Bulbs-MADE-IN-JAPAN-/310420583932?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item48468235fc

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PIAA-4800K-Precious-White-H9-JDM-Cornering-Lamp-Light-Bulbs-MADE-JAPAN-H-786-/310568857178?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item484f58ae5a

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PIAA-5100K-Southern-Star-White-T10-194-168-FRONT-SIDE-MARKER-Light-Bulbs-H-531-/310568870418?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item484f58e212

Hopefully be ok.

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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
03/01/13 6:12 PM

@Full
Still waiting for them to arrive, but will post some pics here when I install


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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
03/05/13 9:02 PM

Installed new bulbs today, very happy with result.
Sorry pics not to good

This was my old set up:

With new bulbs installed:

High Beam:



2013 Limited Edition, Brocks lowering links, Lowered 1" front & back, Puig carbon hugger,
Akropovic Headers, Leo Vince EVO2 carbon twin exhaust system, Radguard protector, Tinted Tail Light,
Zero Gravity DB screen, BMC air filter, Driven D-Axis grips, Full PIAA lights, Rated R 1" bar risers,
Stem GPS mount, 12v outlet, Rated R frame sliders, Carbon heel guards, Custon rear fender, Seat Cowel,
Custom shaped seat, Brocks billet Adj Sidestand, Custom ECU tune by Oz-Racing, HyperPro RSC Active Damper.

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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
03/05/13 9:12 PM

Very nice!

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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
03/06/13 5:11 AM

great news :)

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knightsp333d



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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
05/14/14 6:17 AM

Hi Martin61 and everyone

I am about to embark on the lighting upgrade and just wanted to confirm if the following items are still the best option, I am after the best HID look and most uniform colour option. I am also trying to get confirmation that there are no issues with overheating the wiring or lenses?

These are the items recommended as mentioned in this thread;

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PIAA-5100K-Southern-Star-White-H11-JDM-Headlight-Fog-Light-Bulbs-MADE-IN-JAPAN-/310420583932?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item48468235fc
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PIAA-4800K-Precious-White-H9-JDM-Cornering-Lamp-Light-Bulbs-MADE-JAPAN-H-786-/310568857178?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item484f58ae5a
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PIAA-5100K-Southern-Star-White-T10-194-168-FRONT-SIDE-MARKER-Light-Bulbs-H-531-/310568870418?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item484f58e212

I have the 2014 ZZR1400 Performance Sport.

Any updates greatly appreciated!


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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
05/14/14 8:03 AM

knightsp333d
I have had no issues at all, very happy with them.
Highly recommend.



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Akropovic Headers, Leo Vince EVO2 carbon twin exhaust system, Radguard protector, Tinted Tail Light,
Zero Gravity DB screen, BMC air filter, Driven D-Axis grips, Full PIAA lights, Rated R 1" bar risers,
Stem GPS mount, 12v outlet, Rated R frame sliders, Carbon heel guards, Custon rear fender, Seat Cowel,
Custom shaped seat, Brocks billet Adj Sidestand, Custom ECU tune by Oz-Racing, HyperPro RSC Active Damper.

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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
05/18/14 4:40 AM

Why not just use H9 bulbs in low beams also? It's a simple mod...then you have brighter bulbs in low beams and use all same bulbs in all 4 lights.



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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
09/10/15 11:31 PM

simple mod to pass H11 to H9 ?

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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
09/17/15 8:45 PM

What I did after finding out HID did not work well in the 14r was this.

I bought 4 - 65 Watt PIAA Platinum Super White Hi beam bulbs! I removed the tabs from two of them for the low beam socket so I have two HI Beam bulbs in my low beam sockets. So....I have 4 - HI Beam bulbs up front instead of only two!

This gives me a more pronounced capability for high speed riding at night, and of course on coming traffic has NO problems seeing me coming.

I never want the other guy to say....."Officer, I did NOT see him"!

Just cut off one of the 3 tabs on the bulb flange and install it in the low beam receptacle as you would a regular low beam bulb...and it works!

You will love it.....and put those super white led's in the running lights too.....and it is a very impressive sight!

Don't waste your time and money on cheaper bulbs...get 5000K pure white...none of that blue halo crap...so you can see where you are going..possible animals down the road like a deer on side of the road.....and enjoy maybe higher speeds at night when it is cooler riding....

Get PIAA and never look back...they are the best money can buy...plug and play.

Ninja


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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
09/17/15 10:09 PM

ok thanks ! just cut one of the 3 tabs ! great

but i see platinium PIAA super white on your 14r , this is not 3800 kelvin ???

it is not too "yellow" ???

on my test, for me, 5500 k is real WHITE !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsBu33-7wjAc on the video most bleu than white, but in real life, really WHITE for the low beam

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RE: 65 Watt PIAA Bulbs
09/18/15 6:57 PM

Look for 4300K or 5000K this is pure brightest white..don't mess with that other off the wall stuff. You need and want long range clear visibility for your safety. This little trick I did sure makes a difference, when you have all 4 bulbs of the same exact wattage and intensity...then you have a team up front working for you....and the look is just awesome.

A 747 pilot would be proud to have these mounted on the front of his wings and landing gear!

Let me know how you like it.

Ninja



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