To be honest, I don't see any of the Big Four investing big bucks right now, world economy is still in the tank and the U.S appears to be heading into a double dip recession. The local Suzuki dealer has a warehouse full of '09s and can't give them away. No '10s imported from Suzuki at all. I figure the GSXR 1000 will stay the same for the next two years. I don't see KHI putting a dollar into the 14. Willidx is right, they would need a big power increase to pull any sales away from the Hayabusa and that would mean re-assigning major engineering assets. I don't see any big changes coming for '11 in the 10r or 6R either. They're both good bikes already and appeal to a certain type (like me) so I see them staying pretty much the same. Maybe some "bold new grapics" and minor updates like they did to the 10R tranny for '10. KHI seems to be into holding the line on price and from what I've heard they have recaptured some market share with this strategy. Honda would be stupid to change the CBR except maybe to fix the oil control rings and adding a little polish here and there. On a tight track, even the Beemer can't match it as is. Yamaha is stuck with the crossplane motor for the next few years to pay off their initial investment. It may turn out to be like their 5 valve heads, they gotta save face and back away from it slowly. OK, so BMW hit the market at the exact right time with the exact right product. I don't see any challengers on the horizon from the land of the rising sun before 2012 at the earliest. Of course I could also be wrong and they might all surprise me.

* Last updated by: Kruz on 9/8/2010 @ 11:14 AM *

[*] WHY IS the radiator 6 foot tall

my bad i forgot the 6

* Last updated by: Badzx14r on 9/8/2010 @ 7:41 PM *

WHY IS the radiator foot tall

Eyes reckon foe da same reason its got dem dare other race parts cause yous is a louken at a race bike. Yep days be havin dem dare thangs on all da real race bikes dat wont make da production bike doe.

* Last updated by: willidx4 on 9/8/2010 @ 12:16 PM *

C'mon willi be nice!

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C'mon willi be nice!

I got love for Badzx14r he is a master drag bike builder and top notch drag racer that will miss the obvious because he so consumed by the enormous amounts of hillbilly motorcycle tech that invades his brain. Don't take it the wrong way Badzx14r I'm just serious.

* Last updated by: willidx4 on 9/8/2010 @ 1:08 PM *

Whats killing our 14's AND the hayabusa is liter bikes that are just as fast and faster, even in top speed now (the BMW ) it just aint right man....it just aint right Thank god for turbo's eh Bad?

This sport is too expensive to bother over a few fractions of a second. IMO, we're all set for the next ten years before we really need to start worrying about performance upgrades....and by that time, as long as we keep riding a decent number of miles every year, we WILL justifiably NEED to buy a new bike.

This sport is too expensive to bother over a few fractions of a second. IMO, we're all set for the next ten years before we really need to start worrying about performance upgrades....and by that time, as long as we keep riding a decent number of miles every year, we WILL justifiably NEED to buy a new bike.

says the man with two hyper bikes

* Last updated by: willidx4 on 9/8/2010 @ 5:52 PM *

Eyes reckon foe da same reason its got dem dare other race parts cause yous is a louken at a race bike.

really then when is it going to win something . race bike your ass . but then again nutswinger's like you buy them for racin . i guess thats why i win alot .

Three of us from Lake County IL

hows the

* Last updated by: Badzx14r on 9/8/2010 @ 8:02 PM *

200whp at peak will for damn sure. Roman you can thank the squids for killing of the zx14

F..king Squids. LOL

Whats killing our 14's AND the hayabusa is liter bikes that are just as fast and faster, even in top speed now (the BMW ) it just aint right man....it just aint right Thank god for turbo's eh Bad?

Exactly my feeling as well.

Liters now have the 14 and Hayabusa covered on speed and handling is in a different league. The Hypers have comfort and street presence going for them, especially a stretched Busa with that big 'ol hump.

I think there is still a market for the hyper bikes, folks that want to go fast but are getting too old to come to grips with the ergos on a liter. I think it is time now to change the category name since hyperbike is not really a fitting adjective to describle them anymore.

Liter bikes and skinny jeans, what is the world coming to?

I think it is time now to change the category name since hyperbike is not really a fitting adjective to describle them anymore.

I think the rags have done that 4 us already. "Sport Touring with legs" I read in one rag. Just the sound of it does not sit well. Not super bike, not hyperbike, say it again to yourself, sport touring. Bad ring to it.

When I look at my sweety I do not see that image. Sure it can do both but that's not how I look at it.

Liter bikes and skinny jeans, what is the world coming to?

Embrace the change its coming like it or not besides its all in how you look at things right?

THIS IS BAD

THIS IS NOT SO BAD

got love for Badzx14r he is a master drag bike builder and top notch drag racer that will miss the obvious because he so consumed by the enormous amounts of hillbilly motorcycle tech that invades his brain. Don't take it the wrong way Badzx14r I'm just serious.

That guy needs A "WIDE LOAD" sign for sure.

* Last updated by: Kruz on 9/9/2010 @ 8:55 AM *

That guy needs A "WIDE LOAD" sign for sure

and he is changing my view concerning public health care WTF

and he is changing my view concerning public health care WTF

under this administration thats now a handicap and qualify you for disability payments . go obama

I am glad to see you two have made up!

Test run!

Nice sound if ye ask me!

* Last updated by: bgordon on 9/12/2010 @ 1:45 PM *

Sounds good to my ear too. Love that sizzling midrange note like bacon cooking.hehehe I can get something close to that with the 14 if I open it up around 7K.

Does anyone else think that ram air looks a little like Iron Man? I do. Cool.

* Last updated by: Rook on 9/12/2010 @ 4:07 PM *

Kruz: This is the new 2011 ZX-10R in WSB livery. So far, me likeee, it's got a sharp edged look to it that I find appealing. I believe that is the Big Bang motor, I hope it lives up to all the hype and knocks BMW off the pedestal.

BTW, why not sell an LE editon painted like this ala the Honda Repsols instead of the lame LE editions with stick on flames or Monster Energy decals.

I don't like the paint or decals but so what?
They're only cosmetic.
Looks like a cool bike.
I like it.
The radiator design is BEAUTIFUL.

Kruz: To be honest, I don't see any of the Big Four investing big bucks right now, world economy is still in the tank and...I don't see any challengers on the horizon from the land of the rising sun before 2012 at the earliest. Of course I could also be wrong and they might all surprise me.

I think your assessment will turn out to be right.

I think your going to start seeing controlable horsepower and more electronics like the K1300.Look at the C14.Slip clutch,traction control,abs.The only thing it's missing is the on the fly suspension setting.Which I rode a friends K and I was not impressed by the traction control.As soon as the front tire left the ground WHAM!!!!!Right back down.Didn't get much of a chance to test the suspension but tons of torque!!