Now tbat you are a skilled ace the 14 is a porky highway bike

I hardly think of myself as a skilled ace Kawnow, just highly diversified, which makes my perspective a bit different than others on this forum.

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Perhaps some of you guys just can't be happy(hence..the 5 motorcycles).IDK.And your pissed cause ya spent a bunch of money and STILL renmained unhappy.Not My fault or Kawis that you're spoiled rotten And don't come back and say"we never felt cheated"...cause all you've done is complain about how they didn't do this,and didn't do that

Hope you're not talking about me here Green, I'm very happy with my bikes. They're not perfect, what is...except maybe the 14R..lool!

And I'm the one who's out of touch here?

..well green....now that you mention it....LOL!

* Last updated by: Kruz on 1/17/2012 @ 8:38 AM *

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You better not be talking about me. My cash is waiting. There is no other bike to be on, street/track/race. I know where the green is grass sea us, but me 14 is like an 8mo fling. Her holes hold a lot of pee yes I kept her out of harms way. Like packed the plastic so she looks pissteam, and I'm hot for the new trotcycle.

I'll pull flies if I have to. I'll run limp if I have to. I have a set of throttle bodies with cable if I have to. My nephew came over. Not a thing got done. Picked up the wrong rear brake carrier axle size, thinking we are going to run the heavy FL [fat lard] wheel that takes the 1" but noooooooooo, it's a light sportster axle with the 7/8" and now the bike sits.

I am stuck, week after week, month after month chasing parts; this guy changes his mind. With that said, it's one more year I'll need more wallet, have le$$ bike. Get it? Now, I'm at a balance point. What I didn't want to hear was, "my hopped up 14 runs like the bottom end of the R." If I know what a sprocketed/pc/pipe 14 runs like, then, the top end is another animal? I don't know if it that is enough animal for me?

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Grn,

Go and check mom out or I'll report you for neglect of the age ID-K, we are not talking this top end shit here. That is your bike, it comes with a speedo, go watch it. We are talking, 'now put some hp in it, grunt the switch for squidcityslcikers, but open mike we come to fightraffic.

GAS'd, Grn. No one runs all that shitop end. It'squinthe top end. Middle finger in the mirror kind of bike slow down, here is the safer gap crap.

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Here it comes...

"Yes, me bike feels like me old bike." Yeah, but WOT about lawn darts and did you squirt down the driveway with a hose before you set rain mode, looked both ways, then nailed it, what happened?

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"That being said, I still don't want one and that seems to be driving you nutty"...MR KRUZ...why would I be 'going nutty' cause YOU don't want a 14r?Your loss,not mine.I HAVE my baby.Bro....I don't care if you get one.You wouldn't be happy with it anyway.So yeah,why waste yer cash.I get it.Sa'll good.

"I hardly think of myself as a skilled ace Kawnow, just highly diversified, "which makes my perspective a bit different than others on this forum"."...now...IF I wanted to slam ya....here's the quote to use.This COULD easily be twisted to appear..well...you know...like...well,like ya did with me there Kruzerman.I'll save ya the hassle of tryin to 'explain yerself" over this deal here.BUT..if I felt inferior...I could certainly point to this to make a pretty strong case about "so now you think you're better"....HMMMMM?

"As nice as the 14R is, it's not something that I want or need parked in my garage...I'm sorry if you can't understand this"....where are you getting this idea that I think YOU should have one...and somehow I think you're inferior or whatever cause you don't?Where?

You come up with these foolish comments...and NO proof of where I said it...no qoutes...no nuthin...just controversial statements and then expect me to not say..wtf...since they are directed at me.Geez Kruz.....leave me out of your 'ideas' about who you 'think' I am will ya?Please stop tryin to drag me into your problem,okay?I've asked you nicely now.Go look in the mirror...point your finger at yourself...and say.."Here's the problem...and here's the solution".

I guarantee ya...things will look different if you'll do that.

"He didn't try to ram anything down my throat about how inferior my 14 is"....quotes my man....quotes.You're gonna say I said it...bring it here out in the open.So everyone can see what a self centered prick I am.

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Sure look good Kruz!!! I like the fact that there is more black. Did you check into the KIBS. Looks like it's going to be the sport bikes version of ABS? Can't wait to get a review on it. Just like the KTRC, it'll probably make his way to the 14R. Waiting a little is going to be really rewarding when it comes to getting a new sport bike. There is a lot of R&D going on right now. I'm now reading the story of the fireblade. I can't help compare it to the BMW: A lighter, nimbler bike with hyper bike kinda power. It definitely changed the preconceived idea of how a liter and hyper should be. It feels like 1992 again

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If the red/black had been available in '11, I would have definitely gone with that instead of straight black.

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...I don't care if you get one.You wouldn't be happy with it anyway.So yeah,why waste yer cash.I get it.

Hey Green, finally we can agree on something!

* Last updated by: Kruz on 1/17/2012 @ 4:50 PM *

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My 07 is piped,tuned,BST's ,no flys,rearsets,182 horse,between 500 and 510 lbs.I like 800km days.The 14R is supposed to be smoother and more comfortable.If it isn't,I'm not going to be happy.As my 07 is remaining in the family.I intend to do back to back comparo's.If I can do an extra 100km a day I'll be happy.I don't expect any noticeable difference in power,if any thing I think the 07 will feel faster,not necessary faster ,but feel faster

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took the 2011 ZX10r for a test, was disappointed with it, if you had a track maybe but hard to find a place for it.

Well, I hit another dealer. Same ol' story. Put it together, we can't put a number on it looking like that. No R's are moving here. Then again, it's not buying/riding season. Then, Drag, I walked up to the joe bike. Thru the window, the sun's rays, are kissing that front fender pearl sparkle fandango. Like a white shell in side, but not mother of pearl. We are talking a white sparkle, not bass boat sparkle... Joe Blow me that color away! Nice. Then, I look at the rest. It's tempting, but that R is calling me.

I think you can pop off the back muffler caps? I'm leaning on another bike, waiting for them to come back with a number. I'm removing her clothes as I 180° one side of her.

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My 07 is piped,tuned,BST's ,no flys,rearsets,182 horse,between 500 and 510 lbs.I like 800km days.The 14R is supposed to be smoother and more comfortable.If it isn't,I'm not going to be happy.As my 07 is remaining in the family.I intend to do back to back comparo's.If I can do an extra 100km a day I'll be happy.I don't expect any noticeable difference in power,if any thing I think the 07 will feel faster,not necessary faster ,but feel faster

I'll be Interested in your back to back compare.

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took the 2011 ZX10r for a test, was disappointed with it, if you had a track maybe but hard to find a place for it.

What's a 10R OTD price in OZ?

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What's a 10R OTD price in OZ?

they were talking 21k, but herd of them going around 19,500, but our ZX14R is 23k retail. Would expect them to be 19 - 20 k

To justify that money the bike has to hit the sweet spot, the 10 was just to narrow a focus where the 14 dose all things good, if you have only 1 bike then for me its the 14

Agreed, 10R is very track focused, not a comfortable machine for distance.

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Thru the window, the sun's rays, are kissing that front fender pearl sparkle fandango. Like a white shell in side, but not mother of pearl. We are talking a white sparkle, not bass boat sparkle... Joe Blow me that color away! Nice. Then, I look at the rest. It's tempting, but that R is calling me.
I think you can pop off the back muffler caps? I'm leaning on another bike, waiting for them to come back with a number. I'm removing her clothes as I 180° one side of her.

lol, I didn't know you were a poet. I can tell you're craving for a new bike just like me.
I like that name for the CBR: Joe Average Bike. I like the improvement they made on the 10R. The R1 and the GXSR are a little bit behind but still relevant. The liter bike "sector" is really exciting right now.

My 07 is piped,tuned,BST's ,no flys,rearsets,182 horse,between 500 and 510 lbs.I like 800km days.The 14R is supposed to be smoother and more comfortable.If it isn't,I'm not going to be happy.As my 07 is remaining in the family.I intend to do back to back comparo's.If I can do an extra 100km a day I'll be happy.I don't expect any noticeable difference in power,if any thing I think the 07 will feel faster,not necessary faster ,but feel faster

I'll be Interested in your back to back compare.

ME TOO
With your power mods and the bst it'll definitely be interesting. I didn't think the 14R would be more comfortable ergo wise, but the new suspensions, the chassis and the smoother motor will probably make it feel more comfy. If you ride twisties, with the wheels and the weight your 07 may have an advantage.

took the 2011 ZX10r for a test, was disappointed with it, if you had a track maybe but hard to find a place for it.

That's why I'll have to do a couple of track days (with the 14) before I buy a liter. That being said with have some excellent roads here.

they were talking 21k, but herd of them going around 19,500, but our ZX14R is 23k retail. Would expect them to be 19 - 20 k
To justify that money the bike has to hit the sweet spot, the 10 was just to narrow a focus where the 14 dose all things good, if you have only 1 bike then for me its the 14

Me too. You guys have horrible prices in Aus, Canada as well. That's terrible. The 14 makes sense if you wanna get the most out of bike. $20,000 for a bike you take to the track once a month... OUCH!

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Drag, The craving is forever. I know the ape is flickable, fits me well, is a little jewel, would be the cat's meow for a track bike. But the few minutes of reality on a closed course, the liter bike now sits because it is more a winder upper; yeah it has the grunt; yeah it has some features; yeah and next year something comes out and eats it...

H ~ Torque is under 100
K ~ Torque is above 100

H ~ I went and tagged a foot peg = Whoopee!
K ~ I can tag a foot peg = Whoopee!

H ~ I can pack some soft bags and my torque goes down some.
K ~ I can hard bag you, soft bag the front goes the torque just say, some.

H ~ High have to pack the old lady, she said me or the bike, better be passenger pegs.
K ~ High have gobs of torque for weekend after weekend, she is sort of settled in where did my track time go?

H ` She wants to turn around, the height is killing her with knees holding up her hooters look at that cleavage!
K ~ She doesn't want to get off. She likes the torquey feel like a rushis her home she wants some!

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What's a 10R OTD price in OZ?

Straight off my Dealers site
2012 KAWASAKI NINJA ZX-10R Road MY12
6 Speed Manual
GREEN, CYCLE
The King is Here ! Ninja ZX-10R models have always pursued the highest circuit performance.
$18,240.00 Drive Away
View more information and photos

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big wright up in the local Motorcycle mag, gave the 14r a good rap, looks like they had some squid do the test, looks as if he new little of the bikes history before the release, still talking about the lack of bottom end in the last model .
I think he missed a gen there, but says good things about the bike, complains about silly things like the speedo and taco being a needle not a dig layout, and a few other small things

But still a good report

Dragking, when you think how small the aussie market is you realise this must add to the cost for us

A bit of triva for you all, top 5 Sports bikes sold in Auss sales numbers 2011
Thats for the hole of Australia

Honda CBR1000rr / 574

Hyosung GT650R / 480

KawasakiZX 10r / 413

YamahaYZF R1 / 402

Suzuki GSXR 750 / 295

The numbers for the 14 and Busa would be very low

You see why Auss motorcycle champions have to leave home if they are ever to succeed

Bargin there bean get yourself a track bike????

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You made your case HUB, 14R it is. Are you trading the ape in? I hope not. And what's the mileage on your 14?
@ethin
That's crazy! I didn't know it was that small of a market. Yeah, Stoner should get a lot of respect for being able to develop in such a small pool.
At least it's not France where there is a more or less enforced 100 hp limit on all bikes!

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No ape trade. That dogo plate got me thinking about a uri again. I can goop glue close the side car pan. Fill it with Ice. Haul ass to the fishing hole, they were all solid. Slowly slosh my way home with the fillet cuts. Feed the seagulls. Recycle the guts... It's all good. Find those fish balls... Mail them to Rook ~ preseasoned. Yeah, then I'd have to deep-6 the ape for the bag lady.

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Hub you write like a jerk off.... and you do it all the time so you must be good at it.

Only lonely &ock&ucker could make fun of somebodys mother,have a good day you piece of sh%t !

Every dog has it's day im sure your's is coming ?

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Mark... Try hospice... Are you a candidate? She if you have the balls for death the day it happens. See if you can clean up after someone. See if you can be the legs the brains for someone. See if you can play doctor with all the meds handed to you. Have a nice day.

Go hug your fucking mother, that dog you call mom. Start in with me pal. I'll jerk you so far up a pole, my piss won't reach it! Rhetorically speaking. LOL

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Called you out ... the piece of shit you are... i know you have no friends and the ones you think you have talk behind your back. lol

Fuck your asshole father, whore of a mother you must come from.... i will piss down you throat while your ugly fat girlfriend LOOKS ON... and she will laugh while im doing it.